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dict version

I'd like to provide a dict version of Wikitravel, but then I first need an SQL dump :) Guaka 14:29, 2 Aug 2004 (EDT)

I think that's a great idea. Georg Muntingh 16:38, 2 Aug 2004 (EDT)

too many to authors to fit in that block

I have idea that could simplify attribution authors by thirdparties (mirrors, printed versions, etc.).

We could include all contributors to the article in a footer, but hide them in normal page view using appropriate style.

Entity that re-use the article would have to disable this one particular style, so all authors show up.

It would look like:

<li id="f-credits">This page was last modified 18:09, 6 Feb 2005 by Wikitravel user Wojsyl. 
Based on work by Jan Słupski and Mark Jaroski, Wikitravel user(s) Dimitris, 
Anonymous user(s) of Wikitravel and others<span id="f-authorshid"> (Alan, Miche, Wojtek, Adam)</span>.</li>

And style:

#f-authorshid { display: none; }

-- JanSlupski 10:14, 9 Feb 2005 (EST)

That's a real good idea. Frankly, if we can get the credits block to wrap properly, I'm happy to get rid of the "others" link altogether and just list all contributors. The main reason it's limited right now is that the GFDL only requires that 5 contributors be listed, and some Wikipedians thought there'd be too much credits content if we used > 5. This is kind of moot at this point, as Wikipedia doesn't use the credits block and I don't think the foundation has any plans to. --Evan 10:57, 9 Feb 2005 (EST)
...if we can get the credits block to wrap properly.... We can! ;) But indeed displaying all spammers that have contributed to Main Page could be too much... (ok, ok, I know spammers are mostly anonymous) -- JanSlupski 11:09, 9 Feb 2005 (EST)

Requirement to specifically credit Wikitravel

I think that it is more than fair that we should ask people who re-use articles to credit Wikitravel as well as the actual authors - after all it is usually Wikitravel that has at least facilitated the creation and improvement of the articles. At least then people have more of a clue of where the articles originated from. It needn't be a requirement, but certainly a strong preference. DanielC 19:38, 9 April 2005 (BST)

Wikitravel book

Swept in from the Wikitravel:Travellers' pub:

I made a PDF for all of Italy (I think). See more on my user page --elgaard 18:28, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)

That's great! I think I'd like to put together some mechanisms for making print books using print-on-demand technologies so you could assemble a bunch of Wikitravel Web pages and then send them off to a service to be printed, bound, and shipped to you. --Evan 20:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)
I posted som thoughts made while travelling on User:Elgaard/bookproject --Elgaard (cant find tilde on it keyboard)

Printable TravelGuides and Levels of Information in Contributions

Swept in from the Wikitravel:Travellers' pub:

On wikipedia there are now many readers on different topics. Would that be possible for wikitravel, too? I have in mind a complete pdf-guide for e.g. a country, a region, or also a big city (similar to traditional Lonely Planet guides, e.g.). For those to be compiled automatically, there should be different levels of information in the single contributions (e.g. if there would be a Travel Guide to London it should contain much more detailed info on London - possibly also from wikipedia itself - than in a guidebook on the UK). E.g. putting tags on different sections of articles on cities that would go into a (e.g.) Europe, Western Europe, France, Burgundy or City-Guide (e.g.). Did I make clear what I mean? E.g. in a Europe Guidebook you would probably only include like 5 pubs in Munich, but in a Guidebook on Bavaria, you would include 20. So it would be nice to be able to (internally) mark this on the respective Munich page, in order to be able to automatically create Travel Guides. Are there any plans regarding such issues.

I've been thinking about this too, and I think Wikitravel will need to adopt the Mediawiki Category system at some point to make this possible. Further discussion here please: [1] Jpatokal 09:35, 5 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Footer with attribution

Swept in from Talk:Main Page:

Where can I find out how to produce a list of contributors such as are presented in the footer of this page? Thanks! :)

I found that is an option in the DefaultSettings.php file. :)

printable version

Quoted from Practice: "The printable version of a guide is probably the easiest to convert, print, and redistribute." Am I completely blind? Is there actually a printable version link on Wikitravel? I have searched everywhere in the help file and can not find a thing about it, only a few users' comments about it. -- Brendio 18:47, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)

You're right; that was a feature in very old versions of Mediawiki. --Evan 18:50, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)
Also related to what I have seen talked about. Are there any tools to help with the printing out of Wikitravel guides (say to print a state, plus all the cities within that states) without having to manually click through each link? And does handing a printout of a Wikitravel page meet the licencing requirements. I take it that it does if the block at the bottom is there. Cheers, Brendio 18:58, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)

Hey cool. I wish I'd spotted this text...

back when the excuse for the data dumps was that it was something new. Note in the article history the date the text about data dumps was added here, and who added it. -- Mark 03:37, 8 June 2006 (EDT)

I'm not sure I get your point. Could you break this down, please? --Evan 08:50, 8 June 2006 (EDT)
You had said at one point that it was taking a while for IB to come to grips with data dumps because it was something new. But this page shows that it's been on the to-do list for quite some time, so they should have picked it up in their due-diligence. -- Mark 08:58, 8 June 2006 (EDT)
Oh. No, it just wasn't something that was on our radar at announcement time. It's been something that was requested from time to time on the site for quite a while, and it's been on my perpetual todo list for a while. --Evan 09:15, 8 June 2006 (EDT)