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:::As an aside, I find it deeply frustrating that some editors keep removing this discussion. A wiki should have room even for controversial discussions. [[Special:Contributions/2001:A62:1562:8B02:BDB2:E689:4774:5420|2001:A62:1562:8B02:BDB2:E689:4774:5420]] 09:08, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
:::As an aside, I find it deeply frustrating that some editors keep removing this discussion. A wiki should have room even for controversial discussions. [[Special:Contributions/2001:A62:1562:8B02:BDB2:E689:4774:5420|2001:A62:1562:8B02:BDB2:E689:4774:5420]] 09:08, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
::::Old topics that have already been discussed on other users' talk pages (and on the Pub years ago as far as I remember). We'd like to focus on other things but looks like some people can't get over it. I'm leaving this for other admins, they may want to add their opinion or just end this discussion once and for all. [[User:GiulioC|GiulioC]] ([[User talk:GiulioC|talk]]) 09:19, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
::::Old topics that have already been discussed on other users' talk pages (and on the Pub years ago as far as I remember). We'd like to focus on other things but looks like some people can't get over it. I'm leaving this for other admins, they may want to add their opinion or just end this discussion once and for all. [[User:GiulioC|GiulioC]] ([[User talk:GiulioC|talk]]) 09:19, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
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turkish wikitravel

I would like to create a turkish language page for ukraine travel. How should I go about this? Nervusvagus (talk) 03:22, 14 January 2019 (EST)

Hi, thank you for your interest. But unfortunately, we don't have Turkish version of Wikitravel, yet. Maybe we will have Turkish version someday, but before that day comes you will be most welcome to contribute here or on any other 19 language versions of Wikitravel (you can access them from the lower left side of the Main Page). Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 07:27, 15 January 2019 (EST)

"Articles needing isPartOf Category" category

I'm a recent newbie, and was wondering... There are several/many/lots of articles with this category on them. I've looked around, but don't see yet how to resolve this, if it is a problem. An article I just created, as well as a few others I've browsed, have this condition. Any opinions/help, or do I even need to concern myself? Thanks in advance. Swissjohn29 (talk) 18:56, 23 February 2019 (EST)

I'm not sure what you mean here, all templates should have isPartOf| at the bottom which just needs to be completed with the location info, is that what you mean? You can just update yourself or add it to any article that is missing this info. Adzas (talk) 10:07, 24 February 2019 (EST)
I put an isPartOf in {{}} at the bottom, but the category list still comes up with "articles needing isPartOf category" among the bottom category listings. I'll mess around a little more with it, but with thousands of articles having this on their category list, it's probably something I'll end up blowing off, in favor of sticking with adding new articles or adding content to existing articles. Thanks Adzas. Swissjohn29 (talk) 14:28, 24 February 2019 (EST)
Ah I see what you mean now. Yes, I see many articles on that list even though they have all the information. I will look into it a bit further, could be just a glitch that needs to be looked at by the tech. department. Thanks for bringing it up! Adzas (talk) 18:52, 24 February 2019 (EST)


Travel news

Just making sure everyone is aware of our Travel news page, where you can add important news/alerts, following the format of the previously added news. This way it is easier to follow and we can pick some of these alerts and add it to the main page. So many of us all around the globe, together we can make our news more complete. Happy editing! Adzas (talk) 09:27, 19 June 2019 (EDT)

Thanks Astrid! Looks great! Always a good first source when traveling. IBobi (talk) 14:04, 19 June 2019 (EDT)

Vote on the July 2019 homepage

Hello! We're a bit late with the discussion about the July update of our homepage, but let's share some ideas! At the moment we have Chengdu as DOM and Symi as OTBP (and Scottish Highlands as Landmark, interesting...), what about a European DOM and an Asian OTBP? GiulioC (talk) 05:24, 26 June 2019 (EDT)

Just having a look around the site, what about a location in Mongolia? Like Altai Tavan Bogd National Park for example? And Serbia also has some amazing locations. I will think a bit more about the rest... Adzas (talk) 09:41, 26 June 2019 (EDT)
Yes, definitely nothing wrong with the Mongolian park. -- Selfie City (talk) 19:39, 26 June 2019 (EDT)
That national park looks amazing! The article needs a few more pictures though, I'll look for them. GiulioC (talk) 04:09, 27 June 2019 (EDT)
Great, any thoughts on Landmark/cuisine/language? If we go for a location in Mongolia then maybe Mongolian as our language? Adzas (talk) 07:47, 27 June 2019 (EDT)
Mongolian phrasebook looks good to me, so it can be language of the month. As for the rest, we could maybe stick with some asian landmark/cuisine? GiulioC (talk) 09:29, 27 June 2019 (EDT)
Those sound like good ideas — Forbidden City and Great Wall of China come to mind for the landmark. -- Selfie City (talk) 11:25, 28 June 2019 (EDT)
Great Wall of China sounds great. What about Vietnamese Cuisine? That makes a nice selection of different locations. Adzas (talk) 05:24, 29 June 2019 (EDT)
So, Altai Tavan Bogd National Park as DOM and all the other as language/landmark/cuisine? What about OTBP? Adzas mentioned Serbia as it has many lovely places. These days I'm watching EuroBasket Women championship, Italy is playing in Niš which looks good to me. What do you think? GiulioC (talk) 03:03, 30 June 2019 (EDT)
That looks like a lovely OTBP destination Giulio! So many great places still to explore... Adzas (talk) 05:29, 30 June 2019 (EDT)
Any ideas for event of the month? Tomorrow is the Final of the World Cup soccer (Netherlands vs United States, so after that we can add a new event. Adzas (talk) 04:56, 6 July 2019 (EDT)
Well, I didn't know we did an event of the month, but it sounds like a great idea. -- Selfie City (talk) 13:03, 7 July 2019 (EDT)


We still have these, even tho DMOZ closed a couple of years back. We have a couple of options: 1.) remove them (as the WMF travel wiki did) or 2.) replace them with links to, where the majority of the DMOZ community went. Thoughts? Koavf (talk) 18:49, 1 July 2019 (EDT)

Hi Koavf, I made a separate subject of this, I don’t think this has to do with the DOM votes etc? I don’t know enough about this subject to answer, all I know is we stopped using it years ago, so not sure if we want to replace this now. Adzas (talk) 04:37, 2 July 2019 (EDT)
Sorry, like Adzas I don't know much about it. GiulioC (talk) 09:22, 3 July 2019 (EDT)

Welcome IBanna, our newest admin!

Say Hi to IBanna, everyone! IBobi (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2019 (EDT)

Hello IBanna, welcome! Adzas (talk) 04:09, 19 July 2019 (EDT)
Hello IBanna, welcome on board! GiulioC (talk) 04:53, 19 July 2019 (EDT)
Hi Anna, welcome to the team! --Binbin (talk) 05:14, 19 July 2019 (EDT)
Hi and welcome. -- Selfie City (talk) 16:08, 25 July 2019 (EDT)

Vote on the August 2019 homepage

We're a bit late for the discussion, but August is approaching and we need a new Destination of the Month to feature on the homepage! Any ideas? Share your thoughts! GiulioC (talk) 09:25, 25 July 2019 (EDT)

What about seaside cities? Have me thinking about the beaches of Bali, Casablanca and Alexandria. Definitely great places to be in August. What about you guys? --Binbin (talk) 09:52, 25 July 2019 (EDT)
Those all sound like good choices. -- Selfie City (talk) 16:13, 25 July 2019 (EDT)
I like those choices... also people are now planning autumn travel (and soon Christmas!), so temperate places like Boston, Europe, etc. are fair game... IBobi (talk) 17:19, 25 July 2019 (EDT)
I do like Casablanca as one of the destinations. I just came across an article on the Spanish Wikitravel about Rainbow Mountain in Peru, what about that one for Landmark of the month? Looks so beautiful! Bohemian Paradise also looks amazing, let's try to find some lesser known locations that we should all explore..... what about Triglav National Park? Busy in summer, good time to go after summer and in winter for those who want snow. Sounds perfect! Yellowstone in the US must be pretty too when it gets closer to fall. Just a few thoughts. Adzas (talk) 04:44, 27 July 2019 (EDT)
I like all the mentioned locations, Casablanca article looks good. There are many places in Europe that are worth visiting after summer: Bled, Colmar and Hallstatt are just some ideas. GiulioC (talk) 04:40, 30 July 2019 (EDT)
So all we need to do is pick a few, not easy! Note to any editors here, anyone can participate in those discussions, don’t be shy, let us know what you want to see featured! I just can’t stop looking at pictures of Rainbow Mountain now, we will add that one for sure. Adzas (talk) 10:14, 30 July 2019 (EDT)
Does anyone also have any suggestions for the Event of the Month, to replace the FIFA match, any important sports events or festivals that we can add to the front page? Adzas (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2019 (EDT)
Definitely the Fringe festival in Edinburgh. GiulioC (talk) 06:01, 31 July 2019 (EDT)
The Fringe Festival has been added to the event list. So what about the rest, today is the day to change the DOM, shall we do Casablanca then? Or a US DOM and then Bohemian Paradise as OBP? Landmark could be Rainbow Mountain in Peru, Moroccan cuisine looks delicious in the Morocco article, and then phrasebook of the month, any ideas to make it a diverse selection? Adzas (talk) 05:37, 1 August 2019 (EDT)
Casablanca can be DOM, the article is good, and moroccan cuisine is a nice idea to have on homepage. Bohemian Paradise is also good but needs some pictures. I definitely agree with Rainbow Mountains as landmark! GiulioC (talk) 06:47, 1 August 2019 (EDT)

Vote for the September 2019 Homepage

Hello Wikitravelers near and far!

Please let us know what you would like to see for the: - Destination of the Month - Off the Beaten Path - Landmark of the Month - Cuisine of the Month - Language of the Month - Event of the Month~~

I was reading something the other day about Truffle hunting in Alba, Italy, from September-November. Sounds very interesting, either as event of the month or DOM/OBP, what you think Giulio? I could not find an official link for it, but would love to learn more! Maybe there are other locations to do this? For the rest I will have to think a bit more. Adzas (talk) 10:10, 17 August 2019 (EDT)
It's the International Alba White Truffle Fair, it's huge and could definitely be the event of the month. Alba itself is a nice little town in the Langhe, a UNESCO site in Piedmont very famous for its vineyards. Those articles need some more content though.. GiulioC (talk) 11:08, 17 August 2019 (EDT)
Huge fan of Italy and Truffles! Let's do it! IBobi (talk) 18:15, 19 August 2019 (EDT)
Ok, I will add some content to Alba and Langhe articles. GiulioC (talk) 04:18, 20 August 2019 (EDT)
Event of the month must be a new one, is it? -- Selfie City (talk) 08:57, 25 August 2019 (EDT)
Event of the month is always displayed on the main page, but we didn't really vote for it, but ideas are always welcome! As Alba is an article that still needs some work, shall we do that as OBP then, with the truffle hunt as event of the month? As we talked about destinations where to see the beautiful autumn colours, what about Muskoka? Or Montana? Trying to think of some more 'unusual' locations that we haven't covered yet.... with the truffle hunt I would say Italian cuisine as Cuisine of the month, what interesting language shall we cover this time? What about the Blood Falls in Antarctica as landmark of the month? I'll look for a picture to add to the article. Any other thoughts? Adzas (talk) 09:12, 25 August 2019 (EDT)
For autumn, aren’t places in the Appalachians the best, though? -- Selfie City (talk) 16:55, 27 August 2019 (EDT)
Any specific location you have in mind there Selfie City (talk)? I know we have covered New England, Vermont, Massachusetts in the past, so we need something different. For sure those areas are beautiful though.... Adzas (talk) 17:16, 27 August 2019 (EDT)
I think Alba can be a good OTBP and the truffle fair a good event of the month, so it's also a good idea to feature Italian cuisine (autumn is great, there are many seasonal recipes with truffle as well as pumpkin, mushrooms, chestnuts and so on). I wouldn't choose again a location around New England as DOM, we'd better look somewhere else for some natural areas or a city (in this case I'd choose a European one). GiulioC (talk) 09:02, 28 August 2019 (EDT)
To have some variety and as above is mainly in Europe already, what about a DOM outside of Europe? What about Huangshan or Jiuzhaigou Nature Reserve, reading about it the fall colours are quite good there too. Binbin, what you think? Looking at the List of phrasebooks for some original ideas there, what about Esperanto phrasebook? Adzas (talk) 04:15, 29 August 2019 (EDT)
Thinking outside of Europe, have we ever featured some place around Australia or Oceania as DOM? GiulioC (talk) 04:49, 29 August 2019 (EDT)
September & October is definitely the best season for Jiuzhaigou Nature Reserve. Very very comfortable weather, and the color is just intoxicating. It's definitely can be a very good choice for DOM for September. --Binbin (talk) 05:39, 29 August 2019 (EDT)
I don’t think we covered much of Australia or Oceania as DOM yet, if we want to cover autumn and its beautiful colours that would not be a good option though, we could do a location there the month after maybe, together with the Coral Reef as landmark..... I just want to travel now! Adzas (talk) 10:19, 29 August 2019 (EDT)
Just thinking, if we want to cover something in Australia, why not pick the landmark of the month there? Coral Reef? Alice Rock? Koala Sanctuary in Brisbane? Adzas (talk) 05:30, 31 August 2019 (EDT)
What about the nature reserve for OTP and one of Australia’s major destinations for DOM? Or even landmark? -- Selfie City (talk) 06:10, 31 August 2019 (EDT)
As we wanted to cover the autumn colours, Australia would not make sense as DOM, so maybe better to pick Australia next month, but we could feature something there as landmark yes, to have a diverse selection. So many choices.... Adzas (talk) 09:11, 31 August 2019 (EDT)
Great Barrier Reef as landmark is a good choice, also because climate change is going to affect it badly [1]. So can we use it to raise awareness about climate change? Also by other WT social media pages, what do you think? GiulioC (talk) 12:21, 31 August 2019 (EDT)
Agree with Astrid as Austrilia does not offer autumn colours as of now. But we can definitely do Great Barrier Reef and other places in Austrilia next month or in the near future. --Binbin (talk) 02:26, 1 September 2019 (EDT)

October 2019 Homepage

--It's that time of the month again! Any suggestions for D.O.M/E.O.M? I saw Concurs de Castells and a Polar Marathon , it looked pretty cool. IBanna (talk) 15:39, 24 September 2019 (EDT)IBanna

It’s getting harder every time to pick a great location, there are so many! To prepare for the winter season I would love to feature an article again with the Northern Lights, Finland or Iceland? Galapagos Islands could be a nice winter destination. Santa Marta I noticed on our Spanish site, looks nice as maybe a OBP? With Halloween coming up we could also pick a location in Mexico and definitely add the Day of the Dead events, together with above mentioned events. As we did talk about Australia last month, shall we pick a lesser known location there? Just looking at Kangaroo Island, looks great. Or Kakadu National Park. Just brainstorming here, lets go! Adzas (talk) 09:21, 25 September 2019 (EDT)
Northern Lights! Yes yes yes! But we definitely need also a warmer location: Santa Marta looks good, and also Cartagena (but I think it already featured on I wrong?). We did talk about Australia, did you know that australian wines are really good? Barossa Valley is the most important wine region over there. There are some lesser known locations in Africa also: what about Ilha de Mozambique? I'll get back with more ideas.. GiulioC (talk) 03:38, 26 September 2019 (EDT)
I did some wine tasting tours in Australia yes, very good for sure! I’m sure we covered Cartagena before (also a lovely place, visited it long long time ago), but Colombia for sure has other lovely locations to be discovered that we can feature. I will also think a little more. Maybe a wine theme? South African wines are nice too...Adzas (talk) 03:47, 26 September 2019 (EDT)

Unique Fall Festivities!

Hi everyone! It's the middle of fall and I was wondering what kind of unique fall traditions or events are around the world! In California, seasonal drinks and beers are always something I look forward to and Halloween Horror Nights are the best, but I wanted to know what other fall fun is out there! Any suggestions? IBanna (talk) 18:37, 22 October 2019 (EDT) IBanna

I love it! It is a little late to be sourcing Autumn posts (we should probably be thinking Christmas now), but I do know there's a cool Italian halloween fest in a small city whose name escapes me; and there are Dia De Los Muertos all over Mexico, and there's the WeHo Carnivale, and New Orleans stuff... IBobi (talk) 18:55, 22 October 2019 (EDT)
There are some regional traditions in Italy, but I don't know much about them. Halloween has become quite popular in Italy, but it is mainly about costume parties and children doing the "trick or treat" just like in the USA. I can do some research if you want. GiulioC (talk) 03:51, 23 October 2019 (EDT)
In Chinese culture fall/autumn is a big thing. Numerous poets have left a great many of beautiful poetries about this season. And we do have a special holiday --- Mid-Autumn Day (a public holiday, the 15th days of the 8th month in Chinese lunar calendar), which is dedicated the Moon and family reunion. Apart from this holiday, we have this Chong Yang Jie (Double Ninth Festival, not a public holiday but is well advocated nevertheless, the 9th days of 9th month in Chinese lunar calendar) which focuses more about the social awareness of caring for/respecting the elderly (it's traditionally for climbing moutains, enjoying the beautiful autumn season, and cherish the memories of the ones that are important to you). --Binbin (talk) 08:16, 23 October 2019 (EDT)
Ooh what's the WeHo Carnival? GiulioC, I'd love to know more about Italy's fall traditions! Binbin, I've actually recently went to LA's Mid-Autumn Moon Festival, it was very lively and beautiful! I'm sure the festival in China is much bigger though! Thank you for the fall suggestions! I am excited to hear more from everyone! IBanna (talk) 19:38, 23 October 2019 (EDT)IBanna
Like above, Halloween seems to be bigger each year. In Portugal they celebrate the Day of St.Martin on November 11th, which involves eating chestnuts roasted on the fire, it is lovely. In the Netherlands they also celebrate this day, but there it involves kids going by houses, singing with lanterns, in order to get candies, like the trick or treat with Halloween in other countries. Other then that, local Christmas markets are starting here already the coming weeks, time to update our Christmas Markets article with some new markets! Adzas (talk) 03:45, 24 October 2019 (EDT)
We have a famous Christmas song in the states about "chestnuts roasting on an open fire", interesting to learn there is a day to eat chestnuts! Could be a potential E.O.M?IBanna (talk) 16:27, 25 October 2019 (EDT)IBanna
I found something about Halloween in Italy. There are many local traditions involving carved pumpkins and children going around villages asking for food (just like the "trick or treat"). In the village of Ampezzo in Friuli-Venezia Giulia there's the "La Not dalis Muars" ("night of the dead") that is the Celtic New Year. In some areas of Piedmont and Calabria families gather to have dinner with extra seats and food for the dead. Sardinia have two traditions: "Is Animeddas" ("The Witches") in the south, and "Su Mortu Mortu" in the north: children go around but instead of asking trick or treat they ask in local dialect “seus benius po is animeddas”(“we came for Animeddas”), “carki cosa po sas ànimas” (“something for the souls”), “peti cocone” (“ask for bread”). Note that these are all local, there isn't a single widespread "Halloween" tradition in Italy where All Saints (1st november) is holiday. After all Italy is a (mostly) Catholic country and in the past such things were considered pagan cults and therefore condemned by the Church. GiulioC (talk) 08:30, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

Vote on the November 2019 Homepage!

I've started this discussion, as it's definitely time we started voting on November's main page. Looking at the above discussion, what if we did somewhere in Portugal or California? -- Selfie City (talk) 07:37, 26 October 2019 (EDT)

Warm places, I like the idea. GiulioC (talk) 08:33, 26 October 2019 (EDT)
True! I didn't think of that. -- Selfie City (talk) 18:18, 28 October 2019 (EDT)
I’m all for Portugal, not that I am biased haha. Only in the Algarve it is still nice and warm, up north it is cooling down now, but also lovely this time of year. What about Porto as DOM? As Anna suggested we can also add the Magusto (Nov 11) as Event of the Month, it is done all over Portugal. What shall we do for OBP? Adzas (talk) 07:25, 29 October 2019 (EDT)
Porto is nice! And I'm curious about this Magusto, what is it? GiulioC (talk) 10:16, 29 October 2019 (EDT)
It is the celebration of Day of St. Martin, and also the celebration of the harvest of the grapes. This day chestnuts are roasted on bonfires, and are tasted with the first wines of the year.Adzas (talk) 13:29, 29 October 2019 (EDT)
Sounds great! Maybe we could introduce some of the food at Magusto as C.O.M? IBanna (talk) 11:40, 30 October 2019 (EDT)IBanna
What about OBP? What about Varkala? Don’t think we have covered much of India lately. Or Siquijor in the Philipines? Just thinking of some lesser know locations to explore. Adzas (talk) 04:49, 31 October 2019 (EDT)
I don't remember remember any Indian place on the homepage, what about Ellora? GiulioC (talk) 12:17, 31 October 2019 (EDT)
Ellora sounds amazing too! Article needs some pictures though, or we can use the caves here as Landmark of the Month. Indian language and Portuguese cuisine? Adzas (talk) 05:28, 1 November 2019 (EDT)

New Default Banner

Hi everyone, I have recently changed the default home page banner for the non-EN pages to the one on the side(It says "welcome to Wikitravel!" in each corresponding language):


If there is anything you would like to add to the banner, please let me know. I've gotten requests to add Sakura (the national Japanese flower) to add more of a personal feel to the banner.IBanna (talk) 18:21, 6 November 2019 (EST)IBanna

Changing Tabs: Top Mountain Trails and European Cities

Hi everyone! I am thinking of updating the tabs on the main page for Top Mountain Trails and European Cities. Any suggestions on what you would like to see?IBanna (talk) 11:55, 18 November 2019 (EST)IBanna

Maybe instead of Top Mountain Trails put Active Holiday Destinations, we can then still list trails (but also lesser known trails, I’ve done one in Juneau, Alaska once, the lower lake trail, never made it to the upper lake haha, that was too much for me....) but also great bike routes etc. I will think of other ideas. Adzas (talk) 12:17, 18 November 2019 (EST)
Two beautiful mountain trails are in the Dolomites: Tre Cime di Lavaredo, not too far from Cortina d'Ampezzo and the Alta Via which runs from Braies lake to Belluno (around 150 kms). As for the European Cities, how many of them are we going to list? GiulioC (talk) 15:12, 18 November 2019 (EST)
Active Holiday Destinations sounds like a good idea! We could call it active seasonal destinations instead? since there aren't many holidays in the summer season. For the European cities, I was wondering if we should change the tab to a whole different tab? IBanna (talk) 12:35, 19 November 2019 (EST)IBanna
What about a tab with Hidden Gems (I know we have OBP already but this may stand out more)Adzas (talk) 14:41, 19 November 2019 (EST)
I like that! Hidden Gems sounds great. IBanna (talk) 13:36, 20 November 2019 (EST)IBanna
Hidden Gems sounds good to me. It's not the same as OBP, an hidden gem could also be a lesser-known place in a big city, a place that tourists don't know or visit. GiulioC (talk) 10:31, 28 November 2019 (EST)

Dec 2019 homepage!

Hi everyone! December is nearing so I thought it would be a good time to start discussing the Dec homepage! Any ideas? IBanna (talk) 12:26, 25 November 2019 (EST)IBanna

Well, with Xmas around the corner, shall we highlight our Christmas Markets article for the Event of the Month? Have we covered Barbados before? Maybe as DOM, apparently nice to go there in January/Feb. OBP destination something in Panama? I was looking at Boquete, year round destination. Landmark of the month could then be the Panama Canal (I’ve had the priviledge to go through the canal several times years ago, what an amazing experience!). Will think of other options, also cuisine and language...Adzas (talk)
We definitely need to feature the Christmas Markets article on homepage. DOM: I don't remember Barbados nor Panama, they're both great locations. Central/South America may be where to find landmark and cuisine of the month. Will think about it. GiulioC (talk) 10:31, 28 November 2019 (EST)
Christmas Markets, Panama, and Barbados are all OK, although Barbados is not a very good article. I like Adzas' idea for Panama (Canal) as a landmark. -- Selfie City (talk) 12:47, 29 November 2019 (EST)
I agree Selfie City (talk), Barbados article needs some work first. Any other suggestions? What about Grenada? Adzas (talk) 12:32, 30 November 2019 (EST)
Sorry, I guess I forgot about this discussion! -- Selfie City (talk) 13:08, 31 December 2019 (EST)

Where are you currently located?

Let’s have some fun and show some action! With so many editors on our site, let us know where you are travelling at the moment. We can then have a look which articles in your area may need some content so we can all work on it together! Wikitravel is for all of us, so let’s work together! Also, are there any upcoming major events in your location (where you live or travel)? Add them here so we can feature them on our main page. Any news that is important to know for travellers? Let us know! Happy editing! Adzas (talk) 09:40, 20 December 2019 (EST)

I'm travelling around my region and others to visit cities. There aren't many significant events though, next big one will be the Carnival in Venice. GiulioC (talk) 08:22, 23 December 2019 (EST)
Currently at home in LA, heading to Big Bear for New Year's! IBobi (talk) 15:50, 23 December 2019 (EST)
I am currently in the Algarve in Portugal, it's going to be a sunny Christmas here. There are lots of nice villages to visit in this area, beautiful nature to see, I will look into adding some content or create articles for those locations. If you have any nice pictures of Big Bear IBobi (talk), that would be great! Adzas (talk) 04:53, 24 December 2019 (EST)
Currently in Xi'an. The next event will be the Chinese New Year or Spring Festival (春节 chūnjié), it's just 1 month away now (Jan 25). I've travelled to Democratic Republic of the Congo, Maputo, and Addis Ababa recently. Will try to have a look at those articles and see if I can add some information. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 05:54, 26 December 2019 (EST)

January 2020 homepage

Only a few more days before the new year starts! Any suggestions for the Destinations for that month, cuisine, language etc? I just noticed an edit on the Kanchanaburi page, interesting location to feature I think. I will think a bit more about the rest. Adzas (talk) 04:50, 26 December 2019 (EST)

Kanchanaburi looks good, but is it good enough to be DOM? It may lead to feature thai cuisine/language on homepage, not bad! December featured caribbean locations, focusing on far- east or Southeast Asia is a good idea as there are many wonderful places that may be also landmarks of the month (national parks, temples and so on). GiulioC (talk) 09:10, 27 December 2019 (EST)
I'd go for Singapore as the DOM. Kanchanaburi seems to be nice too, maybe as the OTBP? January in Singapore, the weather, the food and all the fun stuff to do. The biggest event (the Chinese New Year) is in January this year. Even more fine to be there this Janauary. What do you guys think? --Binbin (talk) 01:19, 30 December 2019 (EST)
Singapore is one of our best articles, I'm sure it was on homepage some years ago. Carnival is another big event coming on the next months. Rio de Janeiro and Venice are probably the most famous carnival destinations (though Venice is still recovering from last november's flooding) and the articles are pretty good too. GiulioC (talk) 10:32, 30 December 2019 (EST)
Why not Singapore as DOM, Kanchanaburi as OBP, Chinese New Year we can make the event of the month (any good link for that to use?), Thai cuisine and Thai Language? We could pick a Landmark in Venice (the bridge, the square, the basilica? Adzas (talk) 05:51, 31 December 2019 (EST)
That sounds okay with me; I'll take a look at Kanchanaburi. Venice as a whole could possibly be the landmark of the month. -- Selfie City (talk) 13:09, 31 December 2019 (EST)
Singapore as DOM, Kanchanaburi as OBP sounds great! Unfortunately, there's no article on Wikitravel about Chinese New Year yet, but can we put a Chinese city with rich culture/history (Beijing or Xi'an) as the place for the event of the month (Chinese New Year)? Just a thought. Venice sounds great for landmark of the month too! --Binbin (talk) 03:45, 1 January 2020 (EST)
I may be too late, but for the Chinese New Year, what about China#Holidays? -- Selfie City (talk) 16:45, 3 January 2020 (EST)

February 2020 homepage

It’s that time again! Any suggestions? Adzas (talk) 09:21, 27 January 2020 (EST)

Well, we had asian destinations for January, we may choose somewhere in Europe or America. We could also give tips for a spring destination: I know (and Adzas knows it better than the rest of us) that the Netherlands are beautiful in spring, what about some DOM/OTBP there? Also, let's not forget that Galway is 2020's European Capital of Culture, we'll definitely need to feature it on homepage sooner or later. GiulioC (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2020 (EST)
What about a full spring theme. We always talk about the cherry blossom in Japan, maybe a DOM destination there, then a nice tulip destination in the Netherlands as OBP (maybe Noordwijk or Bulb Region in general, to make it nice and colourful? As yes, it is beautiful there in spring... We could do Galway next month then. Dutch language of the month, Japanese cuisine? Any landmark suggestions? Just reading about the Holi colour festival in India, we could add that as event of the month (it is in March). Adzas (talk) 11:17, 28 January 2020 (EST)
Great idea Adzas! Speaking of cherry blossom, there are cherry blossoms in Washington, D.C. as well. Just in case an alternative is wanted :-). I agree with Adzas though. --Binbin (talk) 23:28, 28 January 2020 (EST)
I just saw some pictures of Noordwijk and surrounding areas, it's beautiful! Hirosaki in Japan features a famous Cherry Blossom festival, could it be our DOM? GiulioC (talk) 04:55, 29 January 2020 (EST)

School/travel project

Whoever is working on the project at the moment, with many new articles created about great sights, please make sure you check our guidelines (most editors will have received a personal message as well), and remember that any pictures that you wish to add to your articles, need to be uploaded via Wikitravel Shared only. Let us know how we can help you with your edits. Adzas (talk) 11:08, 16 February 2020 (EST)

March 2020 homepage

It's almost time to update our homepage! Any ideas about next DOM, OTBP, Landmark, Language, Cuisine and events? Some big sports events are coming this spring/summer: UEFA Euro 2020 will take place all over Europe from June 12th to July 12th. Summer Olympics will take place in Tokyo from July 24th to August 9th. What about creating special pages for these? GiulioC (talk) 05:39, 25 February 2020 (EST)

I like the idea of running an ongoing Tokyo Olympics page starting now, and going until the Games are through. Can someone create? IBobi (talk) 17:01, 25 February 2020 (EST)
We could use the previous format of the UEFA Euro, that was fun to keep up to date. I see the opening game is in Rome? Maybe start getting some interest for that as DOM? Summer Olympics sounds great too. I’ll need to think a bit more about the other destinations.... Adzas (talk) 12:41, 27 February 2020 (EST)
We could definitely use the Euro/World Cup template we used before, and I think we could also choose one of the hosting cities as DOM. The games will take place in Rome, Copenhagen, Amsterdam, Bucharest, Dublin, Bilbao, Budapest, Glasgow, Bruxelles, Baku, London, Munich and Saint Petersburg. They're all good articles, what do you think? I'd go with Saint Petersburg. GiulioC (talk) 09:24, 28 February 2020 (EST)
Saint Petersburg sounds good to me. I don't know much about Baku, shall we choose an OBP near there, like Sheki, beautiful area as far as I can see! I don't think we have covered anything in Azerbaijan before, we could do a phrasebook and cuisine too from that area? Maybe pick a landmark from Bruxelles? Adzas (talk) 13:35, 28 February 2020 (EST)
I'm sure we never covered Azerbaijan before, so some OTBP there is good to me. As for the Bruxelles landmarks, the most famous are the Grand Place and the Atomium, they're both really nice. GiulioC (talk) 12:09, 29 February 2020 (EST)
Just thinking, maybe as so much work was put in the Myanmar project, we could pick a landmark there for this month, this way we also don’t only cover Europe and this side of the world....Adzas (talk) 03:47, 2 March 2020 (EST)
You're right, there are so many beautiful places out there. GiulioC (talk) 04:02, 2 March 2020 (EST)

Coronavirus Outbreak

Are there any sites closed in your country/location due to the Coronavirus outbreak, or other important restrictions that can affect a travellers plans, please share it here with us, or enter it directly in the Coronavirus article, so everyone is fully up to date during this situation. Thanks! Adzas (talk) 09:00, 7 March 2020 (EST)

Maybe we could add a cancelled events section to the CV page? A table of contents would help too... IBobi (talk) 14:11, 11 March 2020 (EDT)
I have been adding some cancelled events in the Outbreak schedule (last column), to keep it in one place, but we could make a separate section. Somehow the TOC does not display, will look into that too. Adzas (talk) 16:47, 11 March 2020 (EDT)
At this point, however, I would say that events/sites scheduled in late March and early April are more likely to be canceled than not. There may be a way to factor this thinking into our coverage of the coronavirus, but I'm not sure how, since those events/places that are open will be hurt by a statement saying something like, "expect everything to be closed." -- Selfie City (talk) 08:33, 17 March 2020 (EDT)


With all the current travel restrictions, closed borders and with in many countries a quarantaine in place due to COVID-19, it is even more important to share beautiful locations so we can all admire the beautiful sights from our home. Let's think ahead of some breathtaking places, so we can work on the articles to make them even more attractive! Maybe we can also (as an exception) add some links to places that now offer virtual tours (either make one designated travel topic article about this or add some to our Coronavirus article?), so we can all dream a little and plan those holidays in our mind for when we are allowed to travel again. Anyone can leave their suggestions here for locations, lets see some action! I just came across the article about Fernando de Noronha, a Unesco location, OBP? I will think about other locations, please join in! Adzas (talk) 05:58, 23 March 2020 (EDT)

Since my country is facing hard times I'd love to suggest some places in Italy. Ferrara is often overlooked but it is a true gem and a UNESCO site. The village of Acitrezza in Sicily is beautiful, and very close to Catania and Mount Etna. My region Veneto has many beautiful places, not just Venice. I'll add more in the next days. GiulioC (talk) 12:55, 23 March 2020 (EDT)
The Ferrara article looks more complete, make that the DOM for April then, to show our support to Italy? Mount Etna we could do as landmark? Maybe for variety an OBP destination in a different part of the world?Anyone else with some great ideas? Adzas (talk) 06:29, 27 March 2020 (EDT)
I may work a little bit on Ferrara and Mount Etna articles then. An OBP somewhere in America maybe? GiulioC (talk) 10:00, 27 March 2020 (EDT)
Maybe a lesser known National Park, like Capitol Reef National Park or Joshua Tree National Park? Or Kauai to add a little beach? Adzas (talk) 14:29, 28 March 2020 (EDT)
I like the idea of Kauai. Joshua Tree is pretty famous, and it would be nice to see the island's population represented. IBShep (talk) 15:20, 2 April 2020 (EDT)
Maybe we can do Kauai next month, the locations already have been updated. The article needs a little more attention, I will try to work on that. The OBP probably depends a little on interpretation, for those in the US Joshua Tree is famous, for us (or for me for sure) in Europe it may be more unknown. For sure I would definitely love to visit that park one day (and many others), it sure does look beautiful. Adzas (talk) 05:03, 4 April 2020 (EDT)


Judging from the above, the plan is to continue with the destinations on this wiki. Any thoughts on good locations for spring? Judging from the weather forecasts I've seen, it's going to be quite a warm spring, so we could some places farther north, perhaps, such as in Northern or Eastern Europe. -- Selfie City (talk) 11:18, 21 April 2020 (EDT)

Yes, we still continue with our destinations, so much to admire and dream of so plans can be made for later. We already did spring locations, we should probably focus more on summer destinations. Last month I suggested Kauai, we can use that location maybe this month? Going to think a bit more about the rest, I will share soonest. Adzas (talk) 12:40, 21 April 2020 (EDT)
I just came across an amazing picture of Edinburgh castle, we could use that as landmark of the month? Let's pick some locations with amazing cultural sights this time, so much beauty around us... Adzas (talk) 04:54, 22 April 2020 (EDT)
Edinburgh castle is amazing, could be a great landmark of the month. If we go with cultural sights then we can stick to Europe or move somewhere we haven't covered before. What about Morocco? The imperial cities (Marrakech, Rabat, Fez and Meknes) are beautiful. GiulioC (talk) 09:36, 22 April 2020 (EDT)
Perhaps we should choose places not impacted by the coronavirus. Africa, Australia and South America would be candidates in that case. -- Selfie City (talk) 11:52, 23 April 2020 (EDT)
OK, Edinburgh Castle it is, for OBP shall we do Meknes or Fez then (Morocco has a very strict lockdown I believe but we can still admire the sights online..). For DOM, any specific locations in mind? I nice place in Australia as Selfie City (talk) suggested? Fraser Island could be an option, or Kakadu National Park? Which Cuisine shall we feature this month? Adzas (talk) 10:39, 29 April 2020 (EDT)
I think Fez article is a bit more complete than Meknes. Also, good idea to have feature Australian places, the Kakadu National Park looks really interesting. Maybe we can also choose australian or Moroccan cuisine as well? GiulioC (talk) 10:50, 29 April 2020 (EDT)
I also agree on Kakadu National Park, and Australia#Eat looks good. -- Selfie City (talk) 12:52, 29 April 2020 (EDT)


Definitely we should feature Northern Hemisphere destinations (and/or parts of South America and Australia that are hot in summer) this month. It's hard to think of somewhere not impacted by the coronavirus at this point, especially as we already included Australia last month, however; I don't have any good ideas that would work. -- Selfie City (talk) 11:23, 21 May 2020 (EDT)

Road trips? IBobi (talk) 19:38, 21 May 2020 (EDT)
Even though travel is restricted, there are still a lot of beautiful places to be admired, either in person or via internet. And as restrictions are slowly being lifted, I'm sure in summer (what we would focus on now with our DOM), more can be explored. Road trips definitely an idea. As DOM, what about Portugal or a specific city there? Lisbon still has daily flights coming in, tourism businesses have a Clean & Safe label and are ready to receive tourists again, beaches will officially open on June 6th. I will think of some other options. I see some great parks and waterfalls in Arizona for example, back soon with more ideas! Adzas (talk) 04:19, 22 May 2020 (EDT)
Adzas is right, there are so many places around the world you can enjoy also via internet, and travel restrictions hopefully won't last much longer (for example Italy's borders will reopen on June 3rd, and beach facilities are opening these days). I'd choose a european location as DOM: Portugal or Lisbon are both great but I'll be thinking about others. As OTBP I just found this Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site. Never seen before, what do you think? GiulioC (talk) 05:08, 22 May 2020 (EDT)
I think Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site is a really good idea. -- Selfie City (talk) 15:50, 22 May 2020 (EDT)
Any other specific suggestions? OTBP we can do Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site,as Giulio suggested. What about DOM? if not something in Portugal, what about a location in Sweden, I think pretty much all is open there since they did not do a lockdown? Any ideas? Adzas (talk) 14:36, 30 May 2020 (EDT)
Portugal looks good to me and I'd stick to that. I don't know much about Sweden, just a few locations in the south such as Malmö, Lund and Landskrona. GiulioC (talk) 02:38, 31 May 2020 (EDT)
As I know LOT Polish Airlines will re-open connections between some European cities in mid of June or July, I've heard it in news. BTW The good destination in Northern Hemisphere are Balkans as they weren't much affected by COVID pandemic. I think also some small holiday village in Poland could be good places.Golden Auste (talk) 06:37, 1 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste.
It would be nice to feature an unknown location in Poland for Off the Beaten Path next month, giving time to work on the article, include pictures etc. I will also have a look nearer to that time what nice options we have. Any specific suggestions Golden Auste (talk)? Adzas (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2020 (EDT)
Eh, I was thinking about Dąbrowa Górnicza but I was out yesterday in the city center and forgot about taking photos :(. I'd suggest places where there're already photos as Będzin, Bytom, Sosnowiec, Żory, Wodzisław Śląski, Goczałkowice Zdrój or Trzebinia. Zagłębie Dąbrowskie as a region could be nice, although it's in Silesian Voivodeship, it's much different culture and history. How about trails I can suggest Via Regia, Szlak Warowni Jurajskich or Szlak Husarii Polskiej. Golden Auste (talk) 14:27, 2 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
I've been out on shopping and made a photo of culture house in Dąbrowa Górnicza. I've been a little modified it in Paint as there were too much cars as I made it from the car park site as there's the best view. So, you can also vote for Dąbrowa too.Golden Auste (talk) 12:41, 3 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste

Updates COVID-19

While many countries are still battling the effects of the Coronavirus, other countries are starting to open up again. Are you living somewhere where tourism is starting up again, let us know, so we can all update our article Coronavirus together so travellers can see where they can go to. Especially when flights start again, restrictions upon entering the country etc. All input is welcome! Adzas (talk) 08:07, 31 May 2020 (EDT)

As far as I'm concerned Baltic States've opened their borders between each others. I've also heard Lithuania is going to open its border with Poland.Golden Auste (talk) 13:57, 6 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
There's said Poland will open its land borders 13 th of June and international flights in 16th of June. Golden Auste (talk) 13:00, 10 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Good news if you're going to travel to Poland. LOT Polish Airlines will start their flights to chosen European airports from 1st of July: [2].
Perhaps Poland could be the next month's featured destination? -- Selfie City (talk) 09:51, 20 June 2020 (EDT)
How about making a list of countries where we can travel with no restrictioins in COVID section ? Golden Auste (talk) 06:26, 3 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
If you have a look at the Coronavirus article, at the bottom we started a list with updates about locations opening up etc, so feel free to add your information there. It is not easy to keep track though as info seems to be changing, places out of lockdown going back into lockdown, so input from travellers around the world of residents is welcome! Adzas (talk) 17:49, 5 July 2020 (EDT)


We still have a few days to pick a few spectacular destinations, so we can work on the articles if needed. As we talked about last month, we mentioned to possibly go for a OBP in Poland, since our user Golden Auste (talk) has been doing a lot of work recently. Many articles are not completely up to standards yet (missing pictures, not enough content etc), so just checking some out, what about for example Kazimierz_Dolny? I was looking at locations with castles, like in Moszna or the skull chapel in Kudowa-Zdrój but these articles still need to be created or updated. Any thoughts for DOM? A New Zealand location (covid-free apparently), or somewhere in British Colombia? Or a tropical location to dream about? I will have to think a bit more... Adzas (talk) 09:30, 25 June 2020 (EDT)

Kazimierz Dolny could do with pictures, and its IsPartOf is not working, but if those issues were fixed it could be a nice place to feature (maybe Piotrków Trybunalski?). New Zealand is of course in the middle of winter right now, but it could still work, especially in the Auckland region to the north. -- Selfie City (talk) 09:57, 25 June 2020 (EDT)
Kazimierz Dolny looks good and with some pictures would be perfect (the IsPartOf can easily be fixed). Lublin article is also very good (not much editing needed). If we're going to choose some tropical locations I'd stay away from America since the coronavirus outbreak is still very strong. I'll add more ideas later. GiulioC (talk) 10:42, 25 June 2020 (EDT)
I also support idea of Kazimierz Dolny. I was here some years ago and I loved it. I'd also add similar old cities as Zamość, Tarnów or Nowy Sącz or maybe Spa city Krynica Zdrój. I think the good destinations could be Oceania islands and teritories as there have been almost any COVID cases so far but those countries/territories have some restrictions Golden Auste (talk) 13:35, 25 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Adzas mentioned locations with castles, Centre-Val de Loire in France is famous for its castles. Also, tropical locations: why not choosing a far away place like Moorea? Or other pacific islands? GiulioC (talk) 03:59, 26 June 2020 (EDT)
Oh yes, Moorea, or Bora Bora, I've had the luck to visit that area, true paradise! Adzas (talk) 10:17, 26 June 2020 (EDT)
How about less known places as Niue, Tokelau, Nauru, Kiribati or Marshall Islands? You mentioned castles, there's plenty of castle ruins in Jura Mountains. BTW some of them are reconstructed. I'd also reccomend Kruje castle in Albania or Ioannina, Greece? As Balkans are one of the top 2020 destinations. Moreover they're almost COVID free.Golden Auste (talk) 14:43, 26 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
When picking the articles we need to make sure they follow our guidelines, Jura Mountains for example does not look quite ready yet. Niue or Kiribati look like some great options, definitely lesser known and not used before I think. Kruje also great, Greece we did recently. So many choices, shall we do a vote? What about one of the mentioned tropical destionations for DOM, Kazimierz Dolny for OBP (need some picture added), maybe that castle in Kruje as landmark of the month? Then we just need language and cuisine. Adzas (talk) 05:31, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
OK, my choices Kazimierz Dolny, Nauru and Kruje Golden Auste (talk) 06:04, 27 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Moorea as DOM, Kazimierz Dolny OTBP. The castle in Kruje is really a good landmark. The articles don't need much editing in my opinion, just a copule of pictures more. We then can choose a tropical cuisine and language (Tahitian maybe?). GiulioC (talk) 05:08, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
Great idea! Golden Auste (talk) 13:51, 28 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
  • Florida is fairly open and relatively low in terms of cases (outside of Miami), but there's no harm in waiting a month or two if we choose to feature it (October is good climate-wise). Therefore the current suggestions made in the previous comment seem entirely appropriate for July 2020. -- Selfie City (talk) 10:24, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
I don't think so, yes it can be an attractive destination but remeber that much of intercontinental flights to the US are cancelled. Golden Auste (talk) 13:44, 29 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
How about North Macedonia? This country's opened its borders recently. Good destinations could be Krusevo or Prilep. Golden Auste (talk) 14:04, 29 June 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
My guess is that travel restrictions won't last long in the U.S., but what's problematic from a traveler's perspective is that EU countries have banned travel from the U.S., so even E.U. destinations might need to be reconsidered as features in the long term. But I'm not opposed to the current nominations for July, since as things stand Americans are unlikely to travel to other countries anyway. -- Selfie City (talk) 09:22, 1 July 2020 (EDT)
Even some European countries haven't opened some borders Golden Auste (talk) 11:47, 2 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste

August 2020

With the current situation regarding lockdowns and the virus, we definitely shouldn't feature any U.S. destinations, and judging from Worldometers Brazil, India, and Russia shouldn't be considered either. Are western European countries open enough to feature now (this is the right time of year for Northern Hemisphere destinations), or is the situation still too problematic there regarding the virus? -- Selfie City (talk) 10:18, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

I think we should think further then the virus, people can still dream and admire beautiful places online and make plans for the future. In Europe countries are open for tourism, but also some are closing again, so it will be something here for much longer then we all thought. I know some locations are offering virtual tours of a city or location, maybe we can look at that, but regardless of the fact that I am not going to travel for a while (own country only at the moment), I still like to explore destinations online. Adzas (talk) 14:23, 19 July 2020 (EDT)
I think currently Eastern Europe, Central Europe and Balkans are opened for tourists and there're almost no cases here. I think we can suggest sth in North Macedonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Croatia . As I learnt Bosnia And Herzegovina has opened its borders recently. Also Norway has done it. I'd propose following destinations Tuzla, Banja Luka or Neum in Bosnia. I was in Neum many years ago and it was quite nice seaside town. As for Norway I'd propose sth in Finnmark , Svalbard or Jan Mayen. As for North Macedonia I'd suggest Krusevo or Prilep.Golden Auste (talk) 08:27, 22 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
I don't know how to create pagebanners on Wikitravel — if someone knows perhaps a pagebanner could be made for one of the featured destination nominations mentioned by Golden Auste above. Finnmark sounds like an interesting idea. -- Selfie City (talk) 10:01, 22 July 2020 (EDT)
Great! I'd vote for Finnmark as DOM and maybe Neum or Krusevo as OBP. Golden Auste (talk) 10:33, 22 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
I just read that WHO is seeing worrying trends in the Balkans, so I'd definitely not choose any location there. Northern Europe at the moment looks better, just like Italy where we're having small local outbreaks that are all under control. Finnmark is ok but the article need more info, maybe we could choose one of the locations listed. I'll share some more ideas in the next days. Also, don't worry about creating banners, I can handle it. GiulioC (talk) 11:00, 22 July 2020 (EDT)
We also need to remember, it is not only which countries are open, but what are the restrictions for getting in and out. Portugal is open for example, but not all countries have added Portugal on their 'green' list, so you will still have lots of restrictions. One country may be open, but a traveller may be in a country that does not allow travel to that destination yet... This COVID-19 makes travelling a challenge for sure, reason I think we should look past this and just admire the beautiful places in the world online for now. And keep it diverse, not just one part of the world. Adzas (talk) 12:36, 22 July 2020 (EDT)
Eh, how about COVID the worst situation is currently in Serbia as I know. Maybe Svalbard or Jan Mayen instead Finnmark? I was also thinking about Greenland but I'm not sure how does look like all epidemic situation here. It's part of Denmark but it's autonomous one. Anyone has any information? Golden Auste (talk) 14:45, 22 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Many countries in Europe do not allow travel yet from countries outside EU or Shengen, I just looked at the restrictions for Norway, they do not allow overseas travellers yet. So that is my reason for my earlier comments, even though a country is open to certain countries, it may not be open yet to all, other countries may allow travel but require a 14 day quarantine upon return. So why not just admire the beauty this world has to offer without thinking to much about Covid-19, lets find some unknown locations that we all want to know more about, like Torres del Paine National Park for example. I will think of other options. Adzas (talk) 12:16, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
I'm not sure, maybe Czech Republic or Slovakia ? There's very safe and no restrictions.Golden Auste (talk) 13:34, 23 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
I've read that Greenland is doing well at controlling the virus, but if it's going to be featured this year it will have to be either August or not at all. (By September it is already getting cold there.) -- Selfie City (talk) 15:50, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
Adzas , as you mentioned beautiful places on the world, first place on my mind was Socotra. It's really beautiful but impossible to access. As for DOM or OBP maybe sth exotic? I'd vote for Indian Ocean islands, maybe French Territories? I'm not sure if the health safety policy is similar in Mayotte or Reunion as they're French dependencies. Golden Auste (talk) 06:26, 24 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
War zones we usually don’t choose as DOM/OBP, Reunion looks beautiful but the article does need a little work to make it more as per our guidelines, but we still have a week, so could be done. Mayotte needs much more content first. Any thoughts for landmark of the month? Adzas (talk) 07:40, 24 July 2020 (EDT)
OK, for DOM: Karlovy Vary, Liberec, Olomouc, Zagreb, Svalbard or Osijek, as OBP :Hradec Kralove, Ostrava, Zilina, Spisska Nova Ves or Varazdin. I've been to Spisska Nova Ves and Zilina and they're very nice cities. Golden Auste (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Nice options but we need a bit more variety, this is all in Czech Republic.... we have travellers from all over the world. I like the idea of Reunion and Torres del Paine National Park, we still have a few days to work on the articles. Adzas (talk) 04:46, 27 July 2020 (EDT)
Yeah Reunion sounds nice. Golden Auste (talk) 16:12, 27 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Reunion article looks really good and also Torres del Paine National Park. I was thinking about Tasmania, I don't remember it featured on our homepage. GiulioC (talk) 08:03, 28 July 2020 (EDT)
Adzas, as I know Australia's now closed for foreign tourist and there's increasing rate of COVID :( Golden Auste (talk) 08:42, 28 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Tasmania sounds great too, you pick GiulioC (talk). We still need a landmark and language too. Do you agree we should ‘forget’ about the virus and just admire the great locations? At this time there is not one location yet where all travellers are allowed to travel without restrictions there or upon return, so no point to focus on that I think....Adzas (talk) 09:58, 28 July 2020 (EDT)
Yes, let's "forget" about the virus and just focus on places to see, sooner or later we'll be able to travel again. Landmark: what about Mont Saint Michel? GiulioC (talk) 10:13, 28 July 2020 (EDT)
Mont Saint Michel, beautiful landmark indeed. Adzas (talk) 11:48, 28 July 2020 (EDT)
How about Constantine or Alexandria? Such beautiful cities! Golden Auste (talk) 13:23, 28 July 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Tasmania needs a couple of pictures more. Constantine and Alexandria are both good. GiulioC (talk) 03:01, 29 July 2020 (EDT)

September 2020

I'm not sure how the situation with COVID will develop in Autumn season. Maybe we can suggest much safer place, f.ex. in Europe. Maybe Scandinavia this time? Golden Auste (talk) 15:02, 22 August 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste

Somewhere in Scandinavia could be good. Also, let's not forget that the foliage season is coming so it'd be nice to find natural areas where you can enjoy autumn colors. GiulioC (talk) 03:41, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
I was thinking about Norway but they's just introduced restriction for many countries. So now I maybe places in Denmark, Iceland or Sweden? I'm suggesting Greenland, Funen and Surrounding Islands, Bornholm, Odense, Faroe Islands, Vestmannaeyjar, Höfn, Akureyri, Kiruna, Sundsvall, Västerås, Gothenburg and Visby Golden Auste (talk) 08:17, 26 August 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Yes, autumn colors for sure! I will think and come back later, but please, let's leave Covid-19 out of the discussion this time, I thought we agreed last time we can explore and admire beautiful locations online regardless of the situation. One day a country is open, the other day it is closed again, one country allows travel to one country but not the other etc etc. Let's just enjoy the beauty we have in this world without the current worries we all have. Adzas (talk) 09:28, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
I vote Gothenburg! Their botanisk is absolutely stunning!IBJoel (talk) 17:22, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
Yes, Gothenburg is really nice and the article is very good too! Skye is also another beautiful place worth visiting. GiulioC (talk) 06:11, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
Wow, Skye looks amazing! What about Denali National Park for a location outside Europe? Looking at some other great parks. Any suggestions for cuisine and language? Adzas (talk)
Adzas, as I know Sweden is not going to put any restriction and Denmark will open its borders from 1st of September. I think the most beautiful autumn colors are in mountains. How about cuisine, maybe Swedish one and language- maybe Polish or Slovenian? Golden Auste (talk) 07:55, 28 August 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Golden Auste (talk) I understand what you are saying, but for example, can everyone from anywhere in the world travel to Sweden or Denmark? I know US citizens and Canadians still can’t come to many places in Europe etc, Spain just closed again and Portugal is raising its level again on Sept. 15, so things are constantly changing, reason why I suggest to leave this out of it and just enjoy the beauty around us. Swedish could be a nice option for cuisine though, let’s source some nice pictures we can use (via Shared). Adzas (talk) 09:15, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

CC-BY-SA contribution name changed

The terms of the CC-by-SA license require my contributions to be attributed in the manner I choose. Since my username was recently changed from User:LtPowers to this random set of characters, the licensing terms are no longer being followed. I request either that my username be reverted to the one of my choice or my contributions be removed entirely from this site. WT74rec38 (talk) 14:29, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

Hi LT. If you can find where it says that in the license, and can get WV to follow them, which has copied all its content from here and renamed all our users while removing the attribution to this site and it's users from every page, we'll be happy to try to alter your name to your preference. Have a nice day :) IBobi (talk) 18:47, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
This is quite straightforward. "If You Distribute, or Publicly Perform the Work or any Adaptations or Collections, You must... keep intact all copyright notices for the Work and provide, reasonable to the medium or means You are utilizing: (i) the name of the Original Author (or pseudonym, if applicable) if supplied..." "User:WT74rec38" is not my pseudonym. User:LtPowers is. WT74rec38 (talk) 22:08, 7 September 2020 (EDT)
Absolutely. Just get the fine folks at WV to restore all WT usernames for the pages they copied from us, and the footer links to our pages, and I'll look into that for you right away. We take CC/SA very seriously -- more seriously than some WP sister projects, apparently -- and want to follow not only the letter but the spirit of the license. Thanks LT -- let me know when that's done on your end! IBobi (talk) 17:54, 8 September 2020 (EDT)
I don't quite understand what you're talking about, obi. All of the contributions transferred under license are attributed to Wikitravel users with the original usernames, except where incorporated into a user's Wikimedia contributions when they gave permission for same. I'm not sure what additional measures you're looking for. And regardless, what some other site does should have absolutely no bearing on whether or not you have the right to change my username and user attribution on this website. WT74rec38 (talk) 19:03, 15 September 2020 (EDT)
WV changed every single WT contributor's name. All of them. So we are changing names where necessary and not worrying about it. Surely if it is ok for Wikipedia sister projects, it's ok for a little travel wiki like us. Go look. Also, a Wikipedia board member was the one who actually removed all the actual links back to WT, so... you may have a tough road ahead. Good luck! IBobi (talk) 19:19, 15 September 2020 (EDT)
The names were not changed except by permission. In the absence of that permission, the names are identified as coming from a particular language edition of Wikitravel but otherwise match the original user's username here on Wikitravel. That courtesy, however, is not something you've afforded me, as you've given me a meaningless username of random characters. And there is absolutely nothing about how a site -- whose name you prohibit from even being mentioned here -- has accommodated the needs of the license that keeps you from respecting my eminently reasonable request to be attributed as "LtPowers" and not as "WT74rec38". WT74rec38 (talk) 21:04, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Asked and answered. Move on. IBobi (talk) 21:37, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Do you think anyone is satisfied by an answer like this?

Halloween topic as October

As we know October is mostly connected with Halloween time. As we still don't know how all this COVID situation will look like, maybe we can read stories about scary places or visit the ones in neighbor countries or just in our neighborhood.Golden Auste (talk) 14:21, 13 September 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste

We usually pick the DOM/OBP with a few months ahead, so in October we would pick a destination where we could travel in say December/January. For October we have previously chosen the Bran Castle and locations like that for the October month though, we could have a look at events of the month for October, see if there are any (online) Halloween events we can highlight, or I think you have made some articles about haunted places, maybe we can pick one as landmark of the month to cover this topic? Adzas (talk) 16:25, 13 September 2020 (EDT)
Eh, how about haunted places two ones are mentioned in Sosnowiec section. Golden Auste (talk) 15:14, 14 September 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Besides the haunted place/halloween highlight, what about a DOM with a winter outdoor Spa experience? Just looking at an amazing outdoor bath location in Ottawa but I have also seen some amazing Spa experiences in for example Iceland, iceabaths while watching the Northern lights, I want that! Just thinking ahead so we have a bit more time to work on the articles that we are going to use. Adzas (talk) 12:15, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Both haunted places and outdoor spas are nice ideas. Iceland, Finland and Norway are probably the best areas where to find outdoor spas while also watching Northern Lights. I don't know much about haunted places though, the only one I know is Ca' Dario in Venice, I'll do some research. GiulioC (talk) 08:36, 21 September 2020 (EDT)
GiulioC, good idea with Northern Lights but I'd propose doing it in Sweden as they're not planning any restrictions with travelling. Golden Auste (talk)
Northern lights in Scandinavian countries we have covered many times, lets try to look a little further so we can discover more unknown places as well, suitable for travellers outside Europe as well. I am going to source a few pictures this weekend, see if I can find something spectacular. Adzas (talk) 09:28, 26 September 2020 (EDT)
Eh, situation in Poland's very dynamic. The lists of countries you can travel without problems's still changing. As I know flights to all Schengen Zone countries will be introduced soon. Moreover, Sosnowiec can be a good option as there're a little of COVID cases in my region. As I checked on Google Flights. There're flights from US and Canada as they sell the tickets. As I know Silesian Voivodeship doesn't have much rates of infected. The worst situation is in Lesser Poland Voivodeship, there're the highest rates. I was thinking about Zapolarny, Russia as this's a strange place but I have no clue how does look like traveling to Russia now. Eh, how about other places. Eh, maybe sth about Tatra Mountains (no matter Slovakian or Polish. There're strange phenomena observed. Same with Beskid mountains or Bieszczady. Moreover Subcarpathia has lots of haunted places and people use to see the most terrible things. Same with city of Zamość. Golden Auste (talk) 14:36, 26 September 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Eh, I forgot Egypt opened its borders for tourists, maybe sth extra in Egypt? Golden Auste (talk) 14:59, 26 September 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Regardless the travel restrictions (it changes all the time), I was thinking of Banff National Park, from where you can see the Northern Lights and there are outdoor spa's there, looks lovely. Or Jasper National Park. Articles would need some more work though first. Then as OBP we could pick a 'haunted' place, but most of those articles are far from ready, needing a lot more content, so lets make sure we vote for some articles that do have content. Adzas (talk) 10:14, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
We can create separate article on Halloween and haunted places. Golden Auste (talk) 14:12, 27 September 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste
Honestly I don't think Halloween needs its own article. Lets work on the existing destination articles, add missing content etc. Adzas (talk) 16:49, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
Good idea to have a US/Canadian location where to enjoy Northern Lights, for some reason it seems to me that you can only see them in northern Europe...Fairbanks in Alaska or Yellowknife could also be starting points, both articles needs some content. If you want haunted places, in Darmstadt, Germany you can find Castle Frankenstein, some think this place inspired Mary Shelley when she wrote the Frankenstein novel. GiulioC (talk) 04:16, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

Wilcza Góra and sailing itineraries

Adzas, I've a question for you. I'm thinking about creating article about Wilcza Góra in English but I'm not sure if there's no use in doing it as this place is mentioned in different places as Będzin or Sosnowiec. I'm also thinking about sailing itineraries: I'm considering Benin lagoon. Lagos lagoon, Micronesia, Central African Republic or Tristan da Cunha. —The preceding comment was added by Golden Auste (talkcontribs)

I can't find much about Wilcza Góra, is this a village or do you mean the mountain? If it is a village large enough with accommodation and things to see, interesting for travellers, then you could create an article, for a mountain we don't create articles. If it is too small for an own article, then as you say, mention it in the Get out sections of the nearest locations. With regards to the itineraries, have another look at itineraries, as the ones you mention above sound more like 'personal' itineraries, not like an existing, recognized route. Better if you look at the various location articles and add some information there instead. Try to stay away from creating those itineraries, instead work on the many articles that you already created, add more info, source for pictures etc. Happy to help, let me know. Happy editing! Adzas (talk) 03:54, 6 October 2020 (EDT)
Wilcza Góra's a mountain with full of legends. I put it in English version in articles about Będzin, Mydlice and Sosnowiec. Separate article is in Polish info. Golden Auste (talk) 04:44, 6 October 2020 (EDT)Golden Auste

Recent events at this wiki

Why are the paid admins conducting actions that appear to an outside observer like waging a weird war on the fork-site? For example, all people who are active on the voyage site and here have had their user-rights (which were given to them by community decision) stripped and users who wrote much of the content that is around on this site today have had their name changed - against their express wishes in at least one case, and certainly without prior consultation or even information in all others - to meaningless strings of characters. This to me seems to violate CC-by SA, but what do I know. What is the purpose of these actions that to a neutral observer must appear like a "war" against the voyage site....

Which fork-site? ...Burbur (talk) 17:37, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
I can not link it as that is blocked here. During the history of this site, there was a fork by some users who were unhappy with the way IB has handled this site. IB subsequently sued some of the editors involved and lost. Or at least that is how I remember things. 2001:A62:1562:8B02:BDB2:E689:4774:5420 08:32, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
As an aside, I find it deeply frustrating that some editors keep removing this discussion. A wiki should have room even for controversial discussions. 2001:A62:1562:8B02:BDB2:E689:4774:5420 09:08, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
Old topics that have already been discussed on other users' talk pages (and on the Pub years ago as far as I remember). We'd like to focus on other things but looks like some people can't get over it. I'm leaving this for other admins, they may want to add their opinion or just end this discussion once and for all. GiulioC (talk) 09:19, 12 October 2020 (EDT)