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*'''Strong Support''' the geographical expansion can follow afterwards and, if and when it does, the article will need to be split so it does not become too long. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 07:12, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
*'''Strong Support''' the geographical expansion can follow afterwards and, if and when it does, the article will need to be split so it does not become too long. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 07:12, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
The [[Bangkok]] train goes on, now at station Rattanakosin, by far my favorite district :-) I'd be glad to hear your opinions. As I am not a native speaker, small bits might need rewriting as there is a lot of prose in the See section. --[[User:Globe-trotter|globe-trotter]] 22:04, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
:It's my favourite part of Bangkok as well :).  First reaction is that this is a quite ''superb'' article. There are so many attractions that the thought of tackling them all must have been a daunting prospect. I will give the article a thorough read when I have time, and post any comments here.--[[User:Burmesedays|burmesedays]] 00:21, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
:: Nice article. I will go through more extensively later, but my first impression is that the History section needs a rewrite. The information is probably fine, but it does not read smoothly. &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 16:53, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
I would like some more comments before I go ahead and promote this one. --[[User:Globe-trotter|Globe-trotter]] 19:45, 5 November 2011 (EDT)
:I have only given it a very quick read at this time but I agree with Peter that the History section needs a re-write. The intro to the See section needs some work to clarify it, maybe the individual attractions mentioned in the intro paragraph do not need to be '''bolded'''. Looks like that article has had a lot of development already put into it. I really like that Reclining Buddha at Wat Pho image, especially at the head of the article, personally I like the size of it, but should it be downsized though for all the normal reasons. Good work. -- [[User:Felix505|felix]] 00:45, 6 November 2011 (EDT)
:Slightly shortened History section and refined(?) its language. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 07:30, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
==Nominations to remove Star status==
==Nominations to remove Star status==

Revision as of 20:05, 11 October 2012

This is where we determine whether an article is ready for be classified as Star status. Even though the criteria are fairly objective, it's good to get some additional eyes to look over a page and confirm that it's ready before elevating it to Star. For reference, here's the general description, from Wikitravel:Article status:

The article is essentially complete. It meets all of the above criteria. It follows the manual of style exactly or is the exception that proves the rule. Prose is not only near-perfect grammatically but also tight, effective, and enjoyable. It has appropriate illustrations, such as photos and a map. Enough breadth and depth of material is presented that anyone familiar with the subject of the article would have little to point out as absent. Future changes to this kind of article would reflect changes in the subject (e.g. a museum closes, a hotel price changes, a new airport is built) more than they'd require improvements in the coverage.

Objective criteria for Star status varies depending on the kind of article it is. For more concrete guidance on this, see:

If you feel that an article currently at Star status is no longer worthy, or never was to begin with, this is also the place to nominate to de-star an article.


Star articles: Last minute checklist

  • The article must be complete — See definition above.
  • Grammar and spelling must be perfect — See definition above. Prose should be stylistically superior and effective.
  • Illustration: the article should be appropriately illustrated with pictures and a Wikitravel-style map, with all attractions marked.
  • Listings should be in alphabetical order — geographical order is also acceptable if it is deemed better.
  • No duplications: a listing should appear under one section only — if there is ambiguity, put it under the section that it most applies to.
  • Time and date formats: Use: M,Tu,W,Th,F,Sa,Su; "...daily" not "Daily..."; "midnight and noon" not "12AM and 12PM"; "AM PM" not "am pm". (Examples: "M-F noon-11PM" and "9AM-9PM daily").
  • Section introductions are not mandatory but should be present when they serve to improve a section.
  • Use "—" (mdash) for breaks in thought.
  • Use abbreviations for addresses, e.g., St, Ave, Ln, Blvd.

You can nominate any "guide" quality article you think is ready to be declared a "star". Please do not nominate an article if you know that it falls short of the criterion above — refer to the info box for a last minute checklist. If there are other nominations on this page, add yours to the bottom of the list. The basic format of a nomination is as follows:

===[[Article name]]===
This has everything we're looking for,
plus a swell kitchen sink. ~~~~

Having done this, please replace the {{guide...}} tag with


at the bottom of the nominated article. You also need to post a note at the Wikitravel:Travellers' Pub to publicize your nomination — remember to tell people that partial critiques and even just a few quick words of support are welcome. These steps help draw attention to the article's nomination, improving the discussion as to whether it should be awarded star status.


Please comment on whether you agree that the nominated article is ready, with a bullet point (*) and your signed opinion. If you think it's ready, a simple "Support" will do. If not, explain what you think is missing or not up to standards. You don't have to leave a detailed critique to vote on the star — partial critiques are welcome, and feel free to just voice your support for the hard work someone else has done.

===[[Article name]]===
This has everything we're looking for, plus a swell kitchen sink.  TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (EDT)
* The sink isn't properly formatted, and there are no "budget" places to sleep. ~~~~

After three weeks of discussion, if a consensus is reached, then that article becomes a star, and the discussion should be archived. Note that a consensus means that all outstanding objections should have been addressed and dropped; if issues remain then the discussion should either continue or, if they cannot or will not be addressed in reasonable time, the article should be added to the slush pile. Regardless of the outcome, it is useful to copy the nomination discussion to the article's talk page.

Archiving checklist

  • Remove the nomination discussion from this page and paste it to both the archives and to the talk page of the new star article;
  • Add the article to Wikitravel:Star articles (and change the map on that page);
  • Update the article status template on the article from guide to star;
  • Add {{title-icons|star-icon}} to the bottom of the article; (see also Template:Title-icons if more than one title icon is required)
  • Add the article to the top of the list on the Main Page, and remove the oldest star article from the bottom of the list.

Nominations for Star status

For an archive of previous successful nominations please see Wikitravel:Star nominations/Archives.

Retiring abroad

Could this be our first star travel topic? Teaching English has been nominated and slushed; as far as I know no others have even been nominated.

It is not entirely complete — see the talk page for comment on that — but I think it is at least close to star level. Of course I'm the only author so far, so I cannot really judge. Comments here or contributions could fairly easily get it the last bit of the way, I think. Pashley 02:33, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Query. Really like this article and would love to see it as a Star. Are there though any criteria for travel topic status?--Burmesedays 02:01, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Link at top of this page takes you to Wikitravel:Travel_topic_status. Pashley 02:47, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Ah yes :). That will teach me for not looking. --Burmesedays 03:49, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Also Burmesedays, it may be useful to keep in mind as you read the stated goal within the article: "This article covers moving abroad to retire."
Are there any countries where you simply cannot retire in even if you want to or that you absoultely have to move to/become a citizen to live in? I tried looking up Uzbekistan, Kenya and Senegal, for example, and couldn't find any information on how to retire in these countries. Perhaps they have investor's visas, but maybe not.
The article is also highly centralized around retiring to Asia, which I know is the most common, but some geographical diversity in examples and pictures would be good. There are plenty of amazing coastal cities in Africa, for example, that have the same sort of exotic appeals that may attract someone to Thailand or the Caribbean, but it's difficult to know what/how much information applies for areas outside of Asia. ChubbyWimbus 04:04, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Yep I am sure that is the case. I suspect finding the information (if it exists at all) for most African countries would be a bit of a nightmare. :::This is a very worthy topic, and one I am quite close to as I have assisted a number of retirees in understanding what is involved in acquiring a retirement residency visa in Indonesia. I think Pashley has done an excellent job with the structure of the article, it is certainly well written, and as far as I can tell, it seems complete. --Burmesedays 10:43, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
Not the first Star travel topic. Chicago skyline guide has that distinction, and there are 5 others related to Scuba Diving around Cape Town. See Wikitravel:Star article#Travel topics
South Africa has quite a number of Europeans who have retired here. Mostly Germans and Britons, who take advantage of the good exchange rate to enjoy the milder climate. Many are what is locally known as "Swallows", as they tend to go north for the winter, and so don't actually stay here permanently. However some do, though permanent is never certain while one is still alive. I have no idea what the arrangements are, as I am local, so retiring here would be a natural progression for me, requiring no special procedures. The information must be available somewhere. • • • Peter (Southwood) Talk 08:55, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

This one has been hanging out there a long time. I would like to propose that it is promoted to star. --burmesedays 12:22, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

  • Strong Support the geographical expansion can follow afterwards and, if and when it does, the article will need to be split so it does not become too long. --W. Franke-mailtalk 07:12, 25 September 2012 (EDT)

Nominations to remove Star status

Whenever possible, articles should be fixed rather than "de-starred". Only nominate articles which cannot be easily elevated/restored to "star" quality. Replace the Star status tag on the article with {{destarnomination}}. Vote "Star" or "Not Star".

Failed nominations

See Wikitravel:Star nominations/Slush pile for nominations that failed or were withdrawn. Articles should only be renominated when they address criticisms from the previous nomination. Please add the {{starpotential}} to the top of the article's discussion page.