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This page lists previous collaborations for the current year.

Previous years

High profile Collaborations

Collaborations that later became destination of the month

List: article name, date it was CotW, number of edits during CotW week, article status at the start of the collaboration; and article status at the end of the collaboration, month it was DotM.

  • Cambridge: 18 March - 24 March 2007: 10 edits by 4 authors, Guide to Guide: DOTM May 2007

Collaborations that later became Off the beaten path

List: article name, date it was CotW, number of edits during CotW week, article status at the start of the collaboration; and article status at the end of the collaboration, month it was OtBP.

  • Hoi An: CotW 19 December 2006 - 25 December 2006: 11 edits by 2 authors, Guide to Guide : OtBP February 2007

Collaborations that later became Star articles

2009 Collaborations

July 2009 - Kyoto

There seems to be alot of contributors interested in Kyoto at the moment, and it's a big international destination with loads of visitors which increases the chances of luring new contributes to chip in, so maybe we could emulate the success of Rome with this one. Efforts to districtify the city is currently ongoing on the talk page.

  • Agree on district borders
  • Move listings to the appropriate districts
  • Scour flickr for cc licensed pictures for the new districts
  • Create a district map - nearly all major streets are plotted on, so creating one should be pretty trivial (I'll volunteer on that one, when my life hopefully calms down again soon)
  • Add general information to the main Kyoto page: Meaningful descriptions for local delicacies in "Eat", clean up "Buy" section, more information in "Drink" section, proofread "Do" and "See" sections (maybe add to them)
  • Provide descriptions and additional information for current listings (All of the formerly blank entries now have descriptions however, content such as phone numbers, addresses, prices, opening and closing times, and websites are still needed for many entries.)
  • Get each region article to at least "usable" status:
    • Kyoto/Arashiyama (More Arashiyama tasks: add listings to "Drink" section, more "Eat" and "Buy" options, info in "Contact" section)
    • Kyoto/Central ( More Central Kyoto tasks: Put current listings in manual-style format, More "Do" listings if any, "Contact" section needs content. Guide status is not far out of reach!)
    • Kyoto/Higashiyama (More Higashiyama tasks:More "Buy" and "Eat" listings are needed, "Contact" section needs content)
    • Kyoto/North (More Northern Kyoto tasks: More "Do", "Eat", and "Buy" options, "Contact" section needs info, add extra info (phone numbers, addresses, etc.) to "See" listings)
    • Kyoto/South (More Southern Kyoto tasks: More "Buy" and "Eat" listings, content in "Contact" section, more "Sleep" and "Do" options if any)

--Stefan (sertmann) Talk 09:42, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

  • Support As you said, a lot of the current contributors are familiar with this city and it's popular enough that random visitors should also be able to contribute. Do you think the districtification should occur prior to it being the CotM? At any rate, a concensus is close to being reached, and a map would definitely make it the more clear. ChubbyWimbus 09:49, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
  • Support, on the same grounds cited by ChubbyWimbus. My own view is that we should aim to lay down the borders and have the district sub-pages up by the time Kyoto is named CotM (in the hope it gets that far, of course!), so that collaborative work can focus primarily on the last three tasks (moving listings, adding district-specific pictures, adding district-specific content). That's just my two cents as a newbie, though; I'd be very grateful for veteran advice. --Diego de Manila 03:44, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
  • Support. I like the process of finding something people are currently collaborating and which has activity, and making it COTM. I think it will work well. And Kyoto is a great city that will benefit from a great guide. --inas 07:58, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
  • Support, and since they're still fresh in my memory, I'll volunteer now to districtify the lodging section. - Dguillaime 01:34, 3 June 2009 (EDT)


Kyoto was a wildly successful collaboration, boasting a full 285 edits, making it the second most successful collaboration after Rome (which, in fairness, had nearly 2x as many edits). This may be attributed to the fact that Kyoto was in much better shape to begin with, and because it also saw significant collaboration beforehand, in June. The most edited page was Kyoto/Arashiyama, with 72 edits, 69 was the next highest number for Kyoto/North; the main page saw 55 edits. All tasks were completed, despite some of them being a little beyond the scope of what a CotM can usually hope to accomplish. Having had districts drafted in June, the city was fully districted during the collaboration; amazingly, all the brand new districts were raised to at least usable status (and the main article to guide status); all blank or otherwise poor sections of the main article were well filled out; and a WT-style districts map was created. Kyoto is now likely ready for a DotM nomination.

The biggest weakness of this collaboration was the extent to which it was carried by only one contributor (User:Chubbywimbus). This is not unique to the Kyoto collaboration—It has become increasingly clear that a successful CotM does require at least one especially motivated contributor (and the Rome collaboration was likely so successful because it had 3+), but still, it is desirable that the collaborative effort be sustained throught out the majority of the month.

A special thanks to registered users who worked on this collaboration: User:ChubbyWimbus, User:Dguillaime, User:Diego de Manila, User:Gorilla Jones, User:Jpatokal, User:PerryPlanet, and User:Zorn. Embarrassingly, I cannot include myself in this list ;) --Peter Talk 17:05, 1 August 2009 (EDT)


Let's try to get another showcase article like San Francisco, Chicago etc. under the belt of the wikitravel community. I'm currently in the process of getting all the districts up to guide level status (it's also always nice to have a target to work against). And this means that we can get the targets very specific, and have something to work on that doesn't require too specific knowledge about the destination. I'd prefer March a something a little while of, to have time to finish - I'm current stalled since I have to get time to visit the northern suburbs, to get a buy shopping section finished, should get around to that after christmas is over and done with.

  • Proofreading/copy editing - I'm not a native speaker, and especially in my written English, I make stupid mistakes and occasional "Danglish" entries, so the districts could use some proofreading and editing. again, I'll be around answer any questions.

And some secondary tasks:

  • Lead article - I need help building the main article, as I've noticed this is definitively not one of my strong points (much better with specifics), I'll be around most days to answer any questions for anyone who doesn't know the city may have, just leave a message on my talk page or at sertmann AT gmail DOT com
  • Identify any missing entries - Anyone who is familiar with city, please comb through the article and districts and identify any missing entries, and just add them (i'll try to fill out anything missing from any entries, so even just the name of a place would be fine) or leave a message at the city/district talk page.
  • Identify needs for clarification/push for star. I'd like people to read through the articles and identify anything/any entries that needs to be extended/clarified for someone who doesn't know anything about the city beforehand, and anything you would comment as objections to a Star nomination/Destination of the Month, so I have a chance to address these points, before nomination.
- Sertmann 17:33, 6 November 2008 (EST)
Looks like a solid nomination. I would try and help out a bit. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 12:33, 23 December 2008 (EST).
(Hey, count those three edits I did in February [1] towards the results!) --Peter Talk 16:30, 4 March 2009 (EST)
Creating maps (unless the nominator is offering to do so) is a task to steep for cotm collaborations, and adding missing entries is very difficult for contributors unfamiliar with the location. The other three tasks are good, but can you think of any more useful tasks to keep us all busy? Aside from that, we don't have another cotm lined up for April, and you mentioned before that these articles were not ready—will they be? --Peter Talk 00:47, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
Well, er den rede? --Peter Talk 15:10, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
Nej, den er ikke :) trying to remember my loose ends on this, I think it should be perfectly feasible, to get this ready for next month, but Copenhagen/Amager, Copenhagen/Frederiksberg and Copenhagen/Vestegnen is still missing info in some of the more boring sections, and a day or two of exploration, now that spring is coming along, there is no need to put that off any more, as it should be quite enjoyable playing tourist in the sunshine. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 15:21, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
Deleted the mapping part, as I found a method to do this, without the need of my broken linux box. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 15:25, 30 March 2009 (EDT)


As a result of the depressingly low level of work done during this collaboration, User:Peterfitzgerald ceased work early on, and was too depressed by it to tally the results. This collaboration had potential. The big lesson, I believe, was that a CotM is likely to fail when it lacks at least one especially dedicated user, who will carry the CotM on his/her back if necessary, and thereby keep the CotM in the public eye, and attract collaborators throughout the month. Alas, real life conspired to successfully remove our most dedicated-to-improving-Copenhagen user during this month. --Peter Talk 17:05, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Walt Disney World

This was a slushed destination of the month not too far back, and that discussion spurred the idea that the article should be split into districts by park (which makes a lot of sense). Similar issues were also discussed during its failed star nomination. I am hesitant to suggest that a successful collaboration could get the article to either of those featured statuses, since that would require a ton of difficult work, but it should at least set the guide on the right track for more dedicated users to achieve those goals.

  • Move listings to districts.
  • As far as is possible, add meaningful descriptions to attractions/rides.
  • Move all park-specific prose to districts (see the Get around section).
  • There is discussion about whether the standard to-scale Wikitravel-style map with overhead satellite-type accuracy is appropriate for park maps. If not actually creating maps, we should figure out what path a would-be resort mapmaker should take in creating one. There is already a map available to play with.
  • Price ranges are needed for all sleep listings. Looking those up can be a pain, but anyone can do one per day.
  • Listingify all listings. This is less important for attraction listings, but it will make it easier for wiki-illiterate contributors to join in the work in the future.
  • Copyedit descriptions to remove flowery, promotional language.

--Peter Talk 22:53, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

Note that WDW was collaboration of the week in March 2008. I don't know if that affects its suitability for selection here or not. On another note, price ranges should be easy because WDW uses its own categories for lodging that neatly divide them up (although technically they have four levels and not our standard three). Regardless of the details, though, some help getting the ball rolling on districtification would be most appreciated; I've outlined some of the major issues on the talk page (under Talk:Walt Disney World Resort#What is needed for star status?). LtPowers 11:54, 31 March 2009 (EDT)


153 edits, 62 to the main article, 39 was the next highest number for Walt Disney World/Epcot. More than that was accomplished, though, in discussion, where we resolved nearly every outstanding question and point of contention (with the question of how to display maps being the only one unresolved). We finished 4 out of 7 tasks (although lots of progress was made on the map question), which is a little disappointing. All in all, this was without a doubt a worthwhile and reasonably successful collaboration, in that it gave the guide (which was rather stuck) a huge push in the right direction, and it now seems reasonable that it could now be pushed up to dotm status with relatively little work (by addressing the remaining non-map tasks, plus at least one map). Any faults with this collaboration stemmed from the relatively small contributor base compared to, say, Rome. It's quite possible that this destination had limited appeal to certain possible contributors (although it did bring it new ones), and that should be something to keep in mind in the future.

A special thanks to registered users who worked on this collaboration: User:Jonathan 784, User:Jtesla16, User:LtPowers, User:PerryPlanet, User:Peterfitzgerald, User:Sertmann. --Peter Talk 08:10, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

March 2009 - Rome

  • Creating a district map
  • Use the district map and Google Maps/ to sort entries into the correct districts
  • Get basic information for major attractions (this is another serious area of embarrassment)
  • Writeup of See sections
  • listingify listings throughout district articles
  • Manual of Style proofreading.
  • Root out any remaining spammy hotel listings (I nuked this big time a while ago). We have way too many hotels listed for the central districts. This isn't something we've really had to deal with anywhere, and it's going to take some discussion to figure out how best to do it, but it needs to be done if our Rome guide is ever going to be readable.

I know this can get a bit city specific, but this city needs a major dose of love, since leaving it unattended have proved disastrous, for one of the worlds top tourism draws - it gives WT a bad name, since it's a very likely entry point for many guests here. Hope we can gather a team of 5 or 6 users to root this out over the course of a month, and maybe check the history logs for some good contributors and mail them for help. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 14:53, 5 February 2009 (EST)

  • Support. Good nomination. I think our Rome article may be Wikitravel's greatest shame. It's one of the world's greatest and most popular destinations, and it's one of our messiest and least useful city articles. I've got a districts map of the city center, and will upload it soon.

--Peter Talk 18:30, 5 February 2009 (EST)

  • Comment. Before district borders are clearly defined, it's quite difficult for an average contributor to help with anything in the list. And I think we have only 2 or 3 people here able to create maps--which also help a bit in districtifying. This is why I started with listing street-by-street borders for Barcelona (but admittedly never finished yet). --DenisYurkin 18:20, 4 March 2009 (EST)
Don't worry, I'll be adding a districts map, with districts defined by street, in the next couple days. --Peter Talk 23:01, 4 March 2009 (EST)
What about giving lat-long coordinates to listings: (a) is that important within COTM; (b) is it legal to use them from Google Maps? --DenisYurkin 14:02, 5 March 2009 (EST)

This post was re-edited by User:Sertmann to create a coherent list


536 edits, 215 to the main article, 63 was the next highest number for Rome/South, not all of them relevant (naturally). This was a wildly successful collaboration—I would venture the most successful collaboration in Wikitravel history. Interest in the collaboration was sustained throughout the entire month, and enough momentum has been built up that valuable new contributions (and contributors) are continuing over into April. Virtually all tasks were completed (with the notable exception of writing a good prose section for "See" in the main article—a task unsuited for contributors with limited knowledge of the area). Districting and "listingification" proved to be tasks well-suited to collaboration. Surprisingly, so was the creation of overview regions/districts-style maps.

A special thanks to registered users who worked on this collaboration: User:ClausHansen, User:DenisYurkin, User:Dguillaime, User:Inas, User:Kristinsinreise, User:PerryPlanet, User:Peterfitzgerald, User:Roundtheworld, User:Sertmann, User:Superflush, and User:Vidimian. --Peter Talk 08:10, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

February 2009 - Mexico City

There is loads of great content in this huge city compilation, and (unlike most half-finished huge city articles) has an excellent district structure, but the districting job was left only half done. A CotM might be able to get the articles into DotM shape. Additionally, Wikitravel's Latin America coverage is pretty shoddy (especially outside Brazil), so it would be good to make this a flagship of sorts. Since the content is mostly there, it would be an ideal CotM—one for which contributors could mos one subsection of an article on any given day.

  • Finish moving listings to districts — there aren't actually that many to do, and some basic google maps reference should allow anyone to do five or so per day in about 15 minutes
  • Listingify all the listings — another task that anyone can do in small quantities spread out over the month. There are a ton of listings that need this, but doing so will make it more obvious which fields are missing.
  • Fill in basic details for listings (addresses, addresses, addresses) — another simple task when done in small doses by many contributors, but difficult for one person to tackle throughout so many articles
  • Replace moved listings from the main article with prose — here's the difficult part; I'll volunteer to do the heavy lifting
  • Scour flickr for more photos — another basic task made much easier when many people each do a small amount of work. Just take a glance over articles for interesting things, then search flickr for them.

--Peter Talk 14:54, 18 December 2008 (EST)

I'd support it, looks like a solid Cotm. I don't know if I can help much, but I'd try. What month were you thinking Peter, Jan? Feb? Keep smilin,edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 18:55, 22 December 2008 (EST).


56 edits in February, not all of them relevant (i.e., some vandalism & reversions). All said, though, that's a tolerable number compared to most previous collaborations (remembering that most previous collaborations lasted only one week). The majority of the edits came within the first week, while interest seemed to falter pretty quickly after that. The front page link appeared to attract a trickle of anonymous contributions throughout the month. Progress was made, but none of the listed tasks were completed. A special thanks to registered users who worked on this collaboration: User:2old, User:Fabz, User:PerryPlanet, User:Peterfitzgerald, and User:Vidimian. --Peter Talk 15:49, 4 March 2009 (EST)

As a follow up, I tried looking into this one night, but the district map was too inaccurate to use it to move the listings (atleast for someone who doesn't know the city), which is something we should have in mind - --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 16:18, 4 March 2009 (EST)