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Citizendium has not yet figured out what license they're going to use. Until they get their act together and figure this out (and then figure out how to fix the unlicensed base of articles they've been building in the meantime), It is '''not possible to copy content''' between articles on Citizendium and articles on Wikitravel.
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Citizendium uss Creative Commons CC-by-SA 3.0. Wikitravel uses CC-by-SA 1.0 which does not have an "or any later version" clause. There has been extensive discussion of upgrading to 3.0, see [http://wikitravel.org/shared/Tech:License_upgrade], but it has not happened yet.
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So currently (as of Nov 2008), it is '''not possible to copy content''' between articles on Citizendium and articles on Wikitravel.
  
 
The only way to do it is if you are the ''sole creator'' of content on Citizendium.  You can contribute the same content to Wikitravel; simply note on the [[Wikitravel:using talk pages|talk page]] that you're relicensing it under Wikitravel's Creative Commons license.  Moving content worked on by other people requires getting their permission first.
 
The only way to do it is if you are the ''sole creator'' of content on Citizendium.  You can contribute the same content to Wikitravel; simply note on the [[Wikitravel:using talk pages|talk page]] that you're relicensing it under Wikitravel's Creative Commons license.  Moving content worked on by other people requires getting their permission first.
  
Because Citizendium is not currently licensed for redistribution, it is no different from a proprietary copyright-protected web site.  For this reason, incorporating Wikitravel content into a Citizendium article would require them to abide by the terms of our Creative Commons license, which they do not.
 
  
 
In any case, think carefully before doing this, and discuss it with others. Citizendium and Wikitravel have distinct goals, and copying large amounts of content from one project to the other creates wasteful duplication. In most cases, linking from one to the other would be a better choice.
 
In any case, think carefully before doing this, and discuss it with others. Citizendium and Wikitravel have distinct goals, and copying large amounts of content from one project to the other creates wasteful duplication. In most cases, linking from one to the other would be a better choice.

Revision as of 08:59, 4 November 2008

Citizendium is a wiki-based encyclopedia project started in 2007 to build a "better" alternative to Wikipedia.

Relationship

Although we use the same software, share many ideals, use similar collaborative processes, and may have contributors in common, there is no formal relationship between Citizendium and Wikitravel.

Sharing content

Citizendium uss Creative Commons CC-by-SA 3.0. Wikitravel uses CC-by-SA 1.0 which does not have an "or any later version" clause. There has been extensive discussion of upgrading to 3.0, see [1], but it has not happened yet.

So currently (as of Nov 2008), it is not possible to copy content between articles on Citizendium and articles on Wikitravel.

The only way to do it is if you are the sole creator of content on Citizendium. You can contribute the same content to Wikitravel; simply note on the talk page that you're relicensing it under Wikitravel's Creative Commons license. Moving content worked on by other people requires getting their permission first.


In any case, think carefully before doing this, and discuss it with others. Citizendium and Wikitravel have distinct goals, and copying large amounts of content from one project to the other creates wasteful duplication. In most cases, linking from one to the other would be a better choice.

Linking

Linking to Citizendium allows people to access encyclopedic information that doesn't fit into the framework of a travel guide. For example, the entry on the United Kingdom should have a thumbnail sketch of the country's history, but detailed information on Henry VIII is inappropriate. A link to Citizendium's UK article would allow readers to find non-travel related information about their destination of choice, without stretching Wikitravel beyond recognition into an "everything you need to know about everything" guide.

If there's a page on Citizendium that covers the exact same subject as a page on Wikitravel, but from an encyclopedic rather than travel guide point of view, consider making a twin link to the page. And if you link to Citizendium, it's also nice to link back to Wikitravel as well. See links to and from Citizendium for how to do this. You can also just add regular links to Citizendium in the text of a Wikitravel article, using Wiki markup. If making a choice between linking to Wikipedia and linking to Citizendium, link to the better article, not the overall project you personally prefer.

However, don't use links as an excuse to be lazy. Wikitravel entries should be useful and self-contained; links should provide additional information. Writing "Everything you need to know about Belize is here, except that there's a good pancake place in Belmopan" is not helpful.

See also

List of related projects