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Time stamps

Thank you for your contributions! We do generally not put dates in edits as it will make WT look less updated than it is, see the discussion here, --ClausHansen 09:46, 5 October 2010 (EDT)

I am not convinced. This is the way a wikitravel salesperson(!) looks at the topic, not from the point of view of a traveller. For a traveller this is essential information! Swissbelg 04:39, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

I do not agree, and as you can see from the discussion, we reached consensus on this, but please feel free to take up the discussion again, --ClausHansen 04:49, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
Hi Geert. Just in case you haven't noticed, the results of the discussion linked above was written into policy at Wikitravel:When to use dates, where you can see more detailed information on where and why (not) to use dates. In case you disagree with that policy, you can start a discussion at Wikitravel talk:When to use dates so more editors can see and join the discussion. But according to the current policy, Claus was perfectly right to remove that datestamp you added, which I'd do myself if I saw it before Claus did. – Vidimian 06:03, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
I did not add that datestamp at all, i was just wondering why it was removed since i personally think it's a very good idea. For a traveller a price without datestamp is worthless. It could be the price of yesterday or the price 10 years ago... but anyway, i did not want to start a discussion about it. I know by now what the usual 4-5 suspects joining these going to make out of it anyway ;-P. Swissbelg 10:18, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
Oops, sorry for not checking the revision history of that article more deeply. – Vidimian 13:46, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
Swissbleg, I share your opinion. Please do contribute in the Wikitravel_talk:When_to_use_dates#Dates_in_edits so that they can see I'm not alone. --Fiable.biz 13:20, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

Content removal

You have been removing my content from Palolem page. may i ask why!!?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 117.204.135.30 (talkcontribs) 22 October 2010

Geert (User:Swissbelg) has already explained that in the edit summary: [1]. If you want your listing to stay at Wikitravel, please take a look at Wikitravel:Listings to see how it should be formatted properly (and don't forget to add vital information such as address, phone number, and price info in addition to web address), and especially please have a read at Wikitravel:Don't tout, and Wikitravel:Welcome, business owners policy pages. – Vidimian 13:36, 22 October 2010 (EDT)
Thanks User:Swissbelg & User:ClausHansen for the info. I have updated the page as per guidelines (please suggest if any changes are required). This is my first wiki artice so apologize for any mistakes. I felt that the article talked only about the budget accommodation in palolem. there is a lot more to palolem. The luxury 5 star resort in Palolem - The Intercontinental, was not at all mentioned in the article. Our resort The Fern Gardenia is a new 3 star resort - for which i have created a listing. WIll try and find all info for the rest of the hotels and add listings. Fair play now? sorry about earlier. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yashvit (talkcontribs) 23 October 2010
Looks OK. I've trimmed and tweaked it a little, though—there were too many "premium"s, which is essentially a meaningless word. – Vidimian 06:01, 23 October 2010 (EDT)
Personally i would call this entry spam removal ;-P. If I alone was making wikitravel policies, only travellers would be allowed to add listings, never ever a business owner. Lucky enough for you I am not, and others seen to be keen on letting you advertise for free in wikitravel, and I will accept this consensus. However there are 2 things still bothering me: first of all I do not consider 6500Rs midrange. Maybe (but only maybe) in switzerland, but definitely not in India. Second is also about the price: for every from there should be a to, end of story. Please add it. Swissbelg 08:51, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
Oh yeah, by the way: tell me how 1) importing wooden cottages from canada and putting airco in it and 2)having a swimming pool next to the beach would be "eco sensitive". you are nothing but yet another profit making chain exploiting tourists and underpaying local workers. Swissbelg 05:38, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
Firstly about the prices - those are rack rates(only used for 10-14 days in a year - common practice in goa). You believing our resort is mid range or not is not a valid reason to change the category of my listing. I think an understanding of market in Goa(especially Palolem Beach) is required to take this decision. Anyways, I will leave it for others to decide. As for the resort being eco-sensitive, the wood used in these prefab cottages is sourced from 100% replenished trees. Kindly read this http://www.ramcons.com/files/6712/7470/3305/TOING_220708.jpg Also the resort does follow EcoSensitive practices such as Sewage water treatment(we have a large STP plant for such a small resort), Waste vermi-composting - further used as manure for our garden. We are also in plans of organizing beach/neighborhood cleanups. If you consider the beach shacks in the area with their non-existent waste disposal/recycling practices, etc then you will understand why we claim to be an eco-sensitive resort. Also may i ask whether you have ever been to Goa - especially Palolem, to have such strong opinions about the place and the article? Yashvit 29 October 2010
OK, compared to the rest you might be a little eco-friendly. But AC is just plain not, and importing wood from canada is not as well. And i wonder what poison you put on the wood to protect it against termites. Prices should display the entire price range and should be high season prices (as in any travelguide btw.), NOT JUST YOUR CHEAPEST OFFER. After playing with your booking engine i corrected your prices again. The 10-14 days you mentioned is just a plain lie. And no i have not been in palolem, i just dont like commercial abuse of wikitravel, and you were unlucky that i randomly patrolled your entry. Not that i don't know southern india, i have been in kerala and several times in tamil nadu, my mom lives in Auroville. Swissbelg 18:34, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
1-Its nearly impossible to live without AC in Goa(crossed 35 degrees in summer) 2-The wood is imported as prefab from China. No worries about adding the to price. The 10-14 days i was talking about is between 22nd dec till 4th jan that is when the rack rates come into play - feel free to play again with our booking engine.Yashvit 29 October 2010
Oh, I thought people have been living there for thousands of years. Maybe i'm wrong ;-). Importing wood from china is not ECO-friendly. Sorry. Swissbelg 07:41, 29 December 2010 (EST)

Greece | Drink water

A lot of bars bring a bottle of water for free with a drink and they are not tourist traps. Also some don't bring you a glass of water, but if you ask for one they will bring you one, and they aren't also tourist traps. You have to find another way to express what you want to say about tourist traps because I can't figure out what you are trying to say about tourist traps. It's better to write that they have to ask if there is extra charge for the water, if they bring them bottled water. Handrian 14:00, 4 January 2011 (EST)

Hi Andreas. I see what you mean, you are right, it can be misunderstood. But i insist that if they bring you a bottle of water without you asking for it, and try to make you pay for it, they are tourist traps. Since you seem to be greek, they of course will not pull that on you, but they do on tourists. I've been hopping around in Greece quite much and it is a fast and easy way to spot them. Unfortunately it happens quite often in touristy areas. What do you think of the following suggestion:
A glass of water is traditionally served with any drink you order; one glass for each drink, especially with any form of coffee. Sometimes you even get a glass of water first an then you are asked what you want to drink! Sometimes you might as well get a bottle instead of just a glass. In touristy areas you might have to ask for a glass of water if you want one. If you don't get water with a coffee you just stepped into a tourist-trap! Also, if you did not explicitly ask for a bottle instead of a glass, and they try to charge you for it you should refuse!
would that be more clear? Swissbelg 16:37, 4 January 2011 (EST)
That's more clear, change it to that one. Handrian 05:33, 5 January 2011 (EST)