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Peter: anon user (and some other IP's followed after)caused trouble and finally blacklisting of a hotel chain [[User_talk:Jc8136#Spamming_German_articles_with_multiple_hotel_listings_and_always_in_the_splurge_section.]] which finally blacklisted due to your non-policy complaint behaviour. It's a SEO company [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 06:46, 24 March 2010 (EDT)
Peter: anon user (and some other IP's followed after)caused trouble and finally blacklisting of a hotel chain [[User_talk:Jc8136#Spamming_German_articles_with_multiple_hotel_listings_and_always_in_the_splurge_section.]] which finally blacklisted due to your non-policy complaint behaviour. It's a SEO company [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 06:46, 24 March 2010 (EDT)
OK, but we have posted other articles in WikiTravel after this case. Now the rules are clear for us. So how could we be removed from this black list?
I think we're following the WikiTravel guidelines for the last articles in Cavtat & Mljet pages.

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A little bit of a conflab going on here and here. I am sure you would have found those discussions anyway, but I am giving you a New Year's nudge :). Your understanding of these issues is much deeper than mine and your input would be very valuable. I have already devoted far too much energy to what I think is a needless discussion... --Burmesedays 11:43, 3 January 2010 (EST)

London CotM

Thanks for your supportive comments on the London CoTM page. I am very happy to have seen the article get so much helpful contributions from users and think it was a great way to finish of 2009! I'm happy to do what little I did and look FW to helping with future CoTMs and articles...when people notice the hard work and say something about it, I think it helps all of us to plunge forward! Happy New Year!Zepppep 14:15, 4 January 2010 (EST)

Any idea on when the next CotM might be announced? I'm champing at the bit...Zepppep 14:13, 7 January 2010 (EST)
CotM burnout, LMAO!Zepppep 16:36, 7 January 2010 (EST)
Antigua Guatemala looks much better now, I think. Zepppep 13:28, 21 January 2010 (EST)

Washington, D.C. neighborhoods map

Thanks for the recent update to the map of the D.C. neighborhoods. I hadn't realized my neighborhood is now "Kalorama Triangle", but that's probably about right. I'm writing to ask if you do have a larger resolution version of this map suitable for printing as a poster. I see last year you did upload a huge version, too big for Wikipedia even, and wondering if I can get an updated copy of it. Thanks, and keep it up!--Patrickneil 09:51, 6 January 2010 (EST)

Thanks! Indeed, the neighborhoods are more like layers upon layers, with things like "Golden Triangle" as a layer over Dupont Ciricle, or "U Street" as a layer under Shaw. Anyway, thanks again.--Patrickneil 11:01, 8 January 2010 (EST)


Finally found some inspiration, Mind giving Copenhagen#Brunch a quick skim, something seems to be a bit off language-wise, but I can't quite figure out what it is that makes it read badly. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 19:51, 6 January 2010 (EST)

How to draw a map

I have finally had a go at completely re-writing this article to bring it up to date. I am very aware that some of my own personal map-making foibles may have come through, so please do give it a very critical once-over. I am sure though that this is both easier to follow and more representative of our current format and standards than the previous version. I started off thinking I would include instructions for both city/district street maps and region/country maps. That became confusing over-kill, so instead I have advised users to go to the regional maps expedition for specifics on that type of map. That is actually exactly how I learned, so it may not be bad advice. I have also included a section where any map-maker willing to help others with questions can sign their name. --Burmesedays 04:50, 8 January 2010 (EST)

traveling tips?

have any for me? --Wiseeagles2 17:14, 8 January 2010 (EST) thank you. :) Wiseeagles2 17:14, 8 January 2010 (EST).

Far East

Just discovered when making writing stuff about Khabarovsk, that it is the capital of the Far Eastern Federal District which this region roughly corresponds to, do you know if these districts have any sort of practical implications, or is it just red tape? --Stefan (sertmann) talk 15:03, 12 January 2010 (EST)

... And what's the deal with Russians and their dialectical marks? is Хаба́ровск or Хабаровск right for a site like ours? and since you seem to have a better grasp at our pseudo pronunciation than I do, mind fitting one in up in the intro, found Khabarovsk to be a tricky one to get across to the ticket ladies --Stefan (sertmann) talk 15:51, 13 January 2010 (EST)

Any change you could help with this one. for the Get out section of Komsomolsk? what's that letter after the "r" in "Ul. Memalur?ov", and does it rally say it takes 7 hours to drive the 40 kilometers up there? Cheers --Stefan (sertmann) talk 08:02, 5 February 2010 (EST)

Thanks for all the praise :o) My interest in the mapping is for the cities along "my itinerary", once I redo the Korsakov map, my mapping will be complete for the Russian part until I get my computer back, where I have a nearly finished map of Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk. For now I need to figure out how to do a map of Wakkanai, since they have no street names in Japan! ugh. Getting a map for Vladivostok and more content to make it guide, or near guide, status would be pretty darn neat though - we'd have some pretty good Far Eastern content with Vladivostok in good shape also. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 13:44, 10 February 2010 (EST)

I want to do some work on the Khabarovsk Krai article, but other than a more expansive understand section with some bits about Climate, History and Nanai culture, I'm a bit at loss on what to do with it? Any idea's/themes that springs to mind? especially for the eat, drink, see and do sections. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 14:45, 11 February 2010 (EST)

Adding photos

Peter -how do you load photos? Gnomy96 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gnomy96 (talkcontribs)

Qatar map

A minor point but the Hawar Islands should be shown as dark grey on the Qatar map as they "belong" to Bahrain. Great to the see the Middle East complete. Bahrain and Qatar are both remarkably uninspiring maps to draw :). Cheers. --Burmesedays 22:37, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Heh, I actually enjoyed doing Qatar for the sheer novelty factor of putting full street names on a country map (all three of them). It's amazing to me that a place half the size of my home county in the States can be a full fledged nation state. I've been thinking for some time, actually, that if Israel/Palestine can be so small but cause such a ruckus, that perhaps we should invade our neighboring county and try to destabilize the Mid-Atlantic. --Peter Talk 22:44, 12 January 2010 (EST)
I foolishly missed out on that pleasure with Bahrain, where the same was certainly possible. And when you are really bored, you are now safe to take the coloured Labuan pin prick off the Malaysia map as I have removed it as a top level region. Onward. --Burmesedays 11:38, 13 January 2010 (EST)

Israel map

Hmm.. I better should have seen that discussion before! I actually thought the whole Gaza thing was a mistake as it didn't have the name Gaza Strip (but just Gaza, which I thought referred to the city). Anyway, I made a map of Palestinian Territories, what do you think of it? --globe-trotter 17:27, 13 January 2010 (EST)


It says "Russia" on your Tajikistan map..! ^^ --globe-trotter 19:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)

Ack! Fixed. --Peter Talk 19:12, 14 January 2010 (EST)


I used the information for this table from the parkbcp website: surely this information should be cited —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

Have you ever encountered a travel guide with footnotes? They are more than appropriate in an encyclopedia or an academic paper, but not here. Additionally, that link appears to be a violation of our Wikitravel:External links policy. --Peter Talk 12:27, 15 January 2010 (EST)


I'm not sure if the last message went OK!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gnomy96 (talkcontribs)

Do you mean your message above? I got it and responded on your talk page here. And it looks like you've figured it out, as I see you are uploading beautiful pictures [2] to shared ;) --Peter Talk 13:24, 16 January 2010 (EST)

DR Guide

Hey Peter! Thanks a lot! It's my first time doing this stuff but I've found my way around. If you have any suggestions, please tell me! I wanted to do this service to my country, as I couldn't believe a world top tourist destination didn't have an extensive wikitravel guide. I use wikitravel every time I travel, and I hope I'm making a good service to my country :-) Thanks for the support! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mfa88 (talkcontribs)

Travelodge Ireland


Why do you remove systematically our listings for Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Cork and Waterford ? But you leave online those belonging to our competitors: The G Hotel, Jury's inn, etc...

We are not a Marketing Agency. We are the hotel owners.

We have the right to get our hotels listed on Wikitravel like the other hotel chains. There is a script proposed by Wikitravel for that purpose: Hotels: *

We need to understand why do you do that. I don't know if I can leave my contact details on this page, but you will find my contact details on (Contact section).


Kamal Taibi

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

You absolutely do not have a right to advertise on Wikitravel. This site is meant to provide travelers' with guidance, not to serve as a business directory, and the volunteers who work to keep this site useful have a real problem dealing with marketing agencies and owners who spam their businesses across the site. Please see Wikitravel:Don't tout. --Peter Talk 11:05, 20 January 2010 (EST)
Can you stop removing my hotel from Dublin> Sleep> Mid-Range, the owner of the hotel requested I add the hotel to this page. I have the same right as anyone to be on this page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)
You have the right to edit the page, but you do not have the right to have your business listed. The selections of businesses to include in our travel guides is meant to be done on the basis of traveler & other volunteer-submitted recommendations, not on the aggressive advertising of business owners.
I, and clearly others, dispute your additions, and we operate on the principle of Wikitravel:Consensus (see especially Wikitravel:Consensus#Status-quo bias). You can make your case for including the hotel if you like, but you will need to convince others that your business should be listed, and I don't think you have done a good job of that so far. Poor behavior on-wiki reflects poorly on your business, and spamming a single business across multiple articles, insisting that you have some right to advertise here, and edit warring, all constitute poor wiki etiquette.
Edit warring, in particular, is considered a fairly serious offense, and my lead to your business being added to our spam blacklist, which will not be good for your business. --Peter Talk 13:50, 21 January 2010 (EST)
This concept of a hotel having the "right" to list (advertise) on Wikitravel and then indignant spammers getting offended, is amusing. :) --Burmesedays 20:34, 21 January 2010 (EST)

Cotswold Water Park

Would really appreciate your guidance on this one. New user Tristan Thomas has been developing an impressive guide to the Cotswold Water Park (CWP) User:Tristan_Thomas/Cotswold_Water_Park. This is an important area in a region of England which I know quite well from way back. I am slightly at a loss to know how it will fit into our regime though. Parts are in Wiltshire and parts are in Gloucestershire. A large number of existing towns and villages could be said to be part of, or adjacent to, the CWP. I can see why he has used a region template. Will it need to be travel topic or is there a neater solution? Please have a look and maybe reply directly on Tristan's talk page where I have started a discussion. Many thanks. --Burmesedays 06:08, 21 January 2010 (EST)

It looks like LtPowers beat me to the punch, and I agree with his recommendation ;) --Peter Talk 13:54, 21 January 2010 (EST)

Capiznon Phrasebook Completed!

The Capiznon Phrasebook is already finished and I would like to put it on the most used or complete phrasebooks. Thanks!Oxyzen 00:52, 24 January 2010 (EST)


Hello Peter,

I hope you are doing great. I have a problem here...I am trying to add some content in the apartments area. This is the text I use:

  • TravelintoLisbon, Calcada Nova do Colegio 19, +351 218886072 (, fax: +351 218885191), [1]. Self-catering apartments in Lisbon historic centre, for tourists or business travelers, located in typical neighbourhoods. Accommodation in Baixa, Chiado, Bairro Alto, Principe Real, Alfama.

I have tried many different texts, but my "post" is always removed. I have read the rules and I think I am following them.

Can ou advise me with this?

Thank you and Best Regards,

Raul Oliveira

—The preceding comment was added by Ttl (talkcontribs)

Santa Cruz (California)

Hi Peter. Please take a look at this. I reverted one lot of edits that portrayed inhabitants of Santa Cruz as a bunch of extreme left wingers, and he has come back again with similar changes. ThanksShep 13:34, 26 January 2010 (EST)

well, arent they? ;-) TomNativenewYorker 10:36, 27 January 2010 (EST)
Ha! It looks to me like things are under control there, so I'll leave it in your capable hands ;) --Peter Talk 10:56, 27 January 2010 (EST)


my name is kevin. i saw ur name on a forum leaving a comment to someone who had wrote about the capiznon language, so i had to ask you because i could not find out how to contact the writer. do you know anything about the bysayan dialects? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

Ah, I'm afraid you are asking the wrong person—I don't speak a word of the language. Try User talk:Oxyzen, who wrote really the entire phrasebook. --Peter Talk 10:48, 29 January 2010 (EST)
Hello Kevin, your asking about the Bisayan dialects? This refers to the group of languages in the Visayas area which is Akeanon, Hiligaynon, Capiznon, Kinaray-a, Cebuano, Winaray and many more....
If you want to know more about these languages, just go to my user page... Oxyzen 14:39, 2 February 2010 (EST)

A Russian scam, perhaps

Peter, this edit appeared in several Russian city articles, repeated more or less word-for-word. I have reverted them all. I have no idea if there is some useful scam information here or not. If so, it could go into Russia. I will leave it to your judgement :). --Burmesedays 23:18, 29 January 2010 (EST)

If this is going on it's certainly new to me—it would have had to start becoming widespread within the past two years, but that's certainly possible. It shouldn't be copied across multiple articles, and maybe could go in the main Russia article, but it's already covered at Common_scams#Dual_menus, so it might be best to just leave it there, since it's not actually specific to Russia. --Peter Talk 13:20, 30 January 2010 (EST)
  • It's not exclusive conditions only for Russia. For residents and russian-speake mans, but non-aborigen, monopolist's taxi (example in airport) offer huge cost too. It's life: don't know - be ready. Еxclusion: state protective fix price for foreigners (fees in museums, etc). Digr 01:37, 6 March 2010 (EST)


I apologize I'm new on this I will not do it again, can you give me some manual for dummies hehe, I don't understad some things about the page, I all ready red all policy but I don´t understand some thing about pictures, all the info that I put was a result of a lot of research, it's not a cut and paste please help me to be a good user. Thank you and sorry for all troubles I cause. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Carolina Dacasa (talkcontribs)

Star format

First, I promise I have looked in the obvious places and am not being (entirely) lazy. Is there a discussion page about star guide format which is not one of the obvious articles? This is prompted by the established convention of omitting email addresses, which is clearly an exception from the "exactly matches MoS" guideline. Not that I disagree with that, but I figured it must be discussed somewhere..... :). --Burmesedays 04:12, 1 February 2010 (EST)

I wouldn't say this has anything to do with star status (I've just been suggesting getting rid of them, rather than making a case for disqualifying articles for star status because of them). You're right, though, that the question of when to add email addresses, and why we haven't been, is unresolved. I've started a discussion at Wikitravel talk:Listings#Email addresses. --Peter Talk 14:16, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Turkey map

When you have nothing else to do (which I think is a rather rare situation :) ), could you please adjust the map of Turkey so it properly shows the other destinations recently linked from country article? Adding Bodrum would also be nice, since it is now in the cities list.—Vidimian 11:56, 4 February 2010 (EST)

Done. I also wrote up a section for Sümela, although it's just off the top of my head, what I remember from 2005, so it could stand to have a little research on the details! --Peter Talk 13:39, 4 February 2010 (EST)
Although I haven't been to the place, the section you wrote about Sümela reads fairly good. I'll search and try to add some transport info for the monastery soon. I don't know if there is a second Uludağ on the actual point you put it on the map (and it's likely there is, as Turks are somewhat far from creativity when it comes to naming geographical landforms, many capes along Turkish coasts have the common clumsy name of Karaburun, literally "Black Cape", for example), but the Uludağ listed as an OD in the article should be just south of Bursa.—Vidimian 13:55, 4 February 2010 (EST)
Fixed. --Peter Talk 14:36, 4 February 2010 (EST)


Peter, I think the Kingston upon Hull entry should have a lower case 'u' in 'upon' not upper in the name. However, I don't know how to chamnge the page title. Can you cahang it? (

There is a discussion about this at talk:Kingston Upon Hull. I believe it should be Kingston-upon-Hull.--Burmesedays 08:46, 5 February 2010 (EST)
Just for the record, you can rename a page by logging in/registering an account, and then clicking the move tab at the top of the page. See Wikitravel:How to rename a page for more details. --Peter Talk 11:32, 5 February 2010 (EST)

User names

Hi Peter!

What to do with user that have weird user names (e.g. User:上山打老虎) or have sex etc. in the name. I don't want to delete them without discussion but some aren't active for years or appear during crusing recent events and could insult faint hearted user... jan 10:22, 5 February 2010 (EST)

Deleting userpages is generally not allowed, unless it is to get rid of non-contributing userspace spam, or if the userpage was created by someone other than the user to whom it belongs. Blocks on the other hand, are something we have, very rarely, used for vandals with obscene usernames. The discussion is at Wikitravel_talk:How_to_handle_unwanted_edits#Permanent_bans, and the current existing ban nomination is Wikitravel:User_ban_nominations#Unacceptable_usernames. --Peter Talk 12:25, 5 February 2010 (EST)
To add to this, deleting users from the registry is not something that is possible for us (perhaps root access would allow this), although a bureaucrat (Jani) can rename an account. Doing so for vulgar usernames used by vandals is not something we have consensus to do, and I'd assume Jani would not support such a practice. --Peter Talk 12:29, 5 February 2010 (EST)


Is it problem to put my link on your article about Montenegro because you it always delete when i put in on?

Best regard Luka —The preceding comment was added by (talkcontribs)

The "problem" is that we are not a platform to give your company free advertising. LtPowers 09:22, 6 February 2010 (EST)

A little milestone

Today, I uploaded the final Bali map (Lovina). I kept putting this one off as it was more than a little troublesome. The 25 Bali guide status articles now all have travel maps, rather than there being one missing:). That does feel like something of a milestone. I am telling you this because I doubt there would be any at all if you had not been so encouraging in those difficult early days of the project!--Burmesedays 04:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)


I would love to set that guy up with copies of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence, and see how much democracy remains when he's done editing them. Or, you know, great works of literature. Anna Karenina now opens: "Some families which have pleasant experiences often resemble other families in some (not all) ways; every unhappy family (which can be unhappy for many different reasons, such as weather) is unhappy in its own way, but can catch a taxi from the street anywhere in Moscow." Gorilla Jones 21:08, 9 February 2010 (EST)

LOL! That made my wikiday after yawning my way through reams of spam ;) On an entirely unrelated topic, I've been thinking of rewriting the tone policy: Some editors may be considered to prefer more precise writing, and therefore make edits accordingly. --Peter Talk 21:27, 9 February 2010 (EST)


Three feet, four inches in a week? Pah! We'd be on the roads and going to work again within 24 hours. =) LtPowers 08:40, 11 February 2010 (EST)


Peter --thanks for incouragement! Having lived around the world I've come back and retired to 'ull and so have an interst in this overlooked place at the end of the 'slow curve running south' as Philip Larkin (poet) described it. Have yet to put on various photos and other information but I'm looking at clubs and hotels at present. No idea how status is changed. Once again thanks for positive comments -- appreciated. Re City to visit --wait until I get more on!!! (Gnomy96)


I have been finishing my edits on the outer London boroughs. See Talk:London/Districts#Article status. Can I ask you to look a problem I have found with one of the maps Talk:London#Underground maps. Chris1515 10:32, 11 February 2010 (EST)

Starnom Chicago and Talk:South_Ossetia

Hi Peter!

Sorry for the late reply to the starnom but your answer was sufficient for me and I thought that I don't need to reply. I shifted the [[Talk:South_Ossetia] as per your comment and would be grateful if you have a quick look for my reasons to change the phrase. Regards from snowy Europe, jan 15:22, 11 February 2010 (EST)

Some advice on regions

The principle of this one has been bothering me for a while. I know that WT has a guiding principle of not repeating information in more than one article. An area where this is perhaps(?) questionable is for get in details. For example, please see this large edit made yesterday to Southeastern Islands [3]. Should we just blandly say "see xxx article" for such info, or does it bear some repitition? In theory, I guess you could say that the detail goes into the higher level (region) article, but that would really weaken the city article and make it less useful for the traveler. Some guidance please!--Burmesedays 19:51, 14 February 2010 (EST)


Just following up -- sent a couple of msgs to your Gmail, did you get them? Jpatokal 07:52, 16 February 2010 (EST)


Thank you -- for some reason my contributions aren't showing or have been deleted.—The preceding comment was added by Mattwhisman (talkcontribs)

Image ID

Can you help me locate this scene [4]? I believe I shot it around 1973, possibly in Spain or Portugal.


[email protected]

Sorry, no idea. --Peter Talk 20:11, 23 February 2010 (EST)


Hi Peter,

could you please distract some of your time to the Starnom#Nusa_Lembongan and let us know if you are supportive? Burmesedays and I work currently on the Gili Islands and Trawangan would be then next prepared for starnom. This would be very nice and well appreaciated. Thanks in advance, jan 09:28, 25 February 2010 (EST)

Will do shortly! --Peter Talk 11:29, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Hull photos

Peter, can you look at the Discussion on Kingston upon Hull re photos and advise. Chris coulson

Peter -- here again. Perhaps as a matter of urgency you could look at the comments on Kingston upon Hull re position of photos on a page. The comments about 'all right' seem a little constrictive and not condusive to good presentation and then altering of them without notice is annoying. (Gnomy96)

Venezuela Map

I noticed a tiny error on the Venezuela map: the Guayana Region is written as Guyana. Sorry to bother you about this. The maps are really improving the site, I think! ChubbyWimbus 04:43, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Not a bother, spotting these things is really appreciated! Unfortunately I'm having a critical problem with my computer that's more or less preventing me from using Inkscape. If someone else wants to download the SVG and make the correction in the meantime, please go ahead! --Peter Talk 11:29, 27 February 2010 (EST)
And I've now fixed my problem, Inkscape is back, and this typo is corrected. --Peter Talk 20:04, 28 February 2010 (EST)

WTP index

Re your edit summary: Bolded entries are only auto-indexed if they're two words or fewer; three-word entries are not, sadly. Fortunately, Jani was kind enough to add Template:index for me. =) LtPowers 16:30, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Oh, and regarding McDonald's, I included it for completeness; it's odd to leave out only one restaurant in the entire complex. (Unless you're suggesting I should also remove chain restaurants like Rainforest Cafe and Earl of Sandwich, which I would have to protest vigorously. =) ) LtPowers 16:30, 27 February 2010 (EST)
We don't have any sort of blanket ban on chains, even international ones—Georgia's one McDonalds location is a landmark in Tbilisi and belongs in that article. I included Nando's Peri-Peri (South African international fast food chain) in the D.C. guide, since it's interesting enough, fills a gap in the article, and you won't find it most places in the U.S. But given McDs ubiquity, it's not something we really need to recommend or explain, and people will find it if they want it without advice from a travel guide. Oddness aside, the aforementioned reasoning plus the fact that it's closing soon—might as well remove it in advance. And I didn't realize that about bolded terms! --Peter Talk 17:46, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Falklands Map

Awesome job on the Falkland Islands map, and all of the other maps that you and the map team put together. The Falklands article was my first contribution ages and ages ago, and with the addition of the map it's pretty cool to see it turn into something resembling a professional travel guide about the islands. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:07, 3 March 2010 (EST)

Thanks! Please let me know if you have any suggestions for improving it ;) --Peter Talk 14:21, 3 March 2010 (EST)


Nice map, really nice. It arrived at about the same time as my Chad map, and not for the first time we have quite independently chosen similar colour schemes for neighbouring countries :). A couple of points:

  • Please have a look at Talk:Chad as I am proposing a small change to the existing region structure.
  • I see that you went for an unfilled blue outline to represent a non-permanent lake (in these cases, wadi flood lakes). Looks good and gets the correct impression across. For Chad, I drew a stripy blue pattern for the fill and used a dotted strikeline. I also used a dotted blue line to represent wadis, as opposed to rivers. Please let me know what you think about that. Would be good in future in standardise I guess?--Burmesedays 09:55, 4 March 2010 (EST)

Photo alignment, again

Hey there. Your comments would be most appreciated here when you get a chance. Thanks! Texugo 21:06, 8 March 2010 (EST)

Thanks. I started a new thread at Wikitravel_talk:How_to_add_an_image#Alignment. Texugo 22:50, 8 March 2010 (EST)

Why all the bias and editorializing?

I've noticed that many of the pieces of you've written in the Washington, D.C. article are slanted, inaccurate, irrelevant, and misleading.

For example: 'Driving in D.C. if Difficult.' This is your opinion. It is not fact. Plenty of people drive in D.C. without incident. I've been driving in the city for 16 years with no accidents, speeding or parking tickets.

" Expert drivers get major bragging rights" - are you kidding?

"Remember that the plan was intended to confuse invading armies. " Actually, no. If this is true I'd love to see a source. Pierre L'Enfant's plan for D.C. is a grid system bisected by wide avenues.

Ruthless, sadistic, absurd: these words have no place in an objective piece. If you want to write editorials get a job at a newspaper.

D.C. has no more 'street closures without warning' or 'frequent street direction changes' than any other city. How many cities have you driven in? How many countries? There are plenty of cities in the region with worse streets than D.C. Ever been to Philadelphia?

Driving in D.C. is not difficult for me. If it's hard for you, I guess that's something you'll have to work on. There is no reason to say that 'driving in D.C. is hard'. It is not hard. I think it is safe to say that driving in D.C. can be stressful, dangerous, and infuriating, but 'difficult' must go. Michael 3000 02:53, 9 March 2010 (EST)

It would be helpful if you placed your comments in one place Michael. You are all over the place. If you take some time to learn a bit about Wikitravel as has been advised on the other talk pages where you have placed a similar rant, you will see why we like opinionated and lively editorialising here. As does any travel guide. This is not Wikipedia. --Burmesedays 03:01, 9 March 2010 (EST)


Hi Peter,

thank you for the wave invitation. I tried to ping you twice but so far no reply from your side, so I'm a bit unsure if it's working. Hope you are fine and regards, jan 16:34, 9 March 2010 (EST)

Ah, sorry about that—I hadn't checked Wave for several days. I have now added you to the relevant threads. --Peter Talk 16:44, 9 March 2010 (EST)

Berkeley Springs


I updated the site with my two cabins. Not sure why it was removed. My friend who owns Husky Hideway is on there and hasn't been removed. I'm not sure what I need to change in the text so it's not removed. Please let me know and I will be glad to change it.




Thx for the welcome Peter. Are you a mod or something? I see you've helped tons of people over the years. I regret I won't be making too many additions to this site as I mainly work on geographical coordinate additions on Wikipedia. I'll do what I can though even if it's only keeping an eye open for abusers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Diaboyos (talkcontribs)

Yep. Anyhow, I hope you do wind up with the extra time to keep improving the destination guides you are familiar with—I'm sure our site will benefit from it ;) --Peter Talk 23:12, 9 March 2010 (EST)

Re: nudge

And I'm aware of your dim view of trolls, but I've seen enough cases of redemption that I'm not willing to give up easily. LtPowers 09:58, 10 March 2010 (EST)

You and I have different definitions of "trolling" then. LtPowers 18:37, 10 March 2010 (EST)

Thank you

Thanks a lot, i'm a bit stupid in all those instructions, so your support helps me much! i'm determined to improve articles =)Ekaterina 14:27, 10 March 2010 (EST)Ekaterina

Mauritius / sleep section

Hi, Why did you remove my hotels informations in Mauritius/sleep ? What's wrong with it ? Can you please help me because I need to update 9 of our hotel on this page.

Thanking you in advance.


I would encourage you to update contact information, like phone numbers, and price ranges for accommodations. Copy-pasting in copyrighted marketing language from your site, adding "Mauritius" to every address, and playing around with the standard format to create bullet points (that match your site's style, not ours), however, is not something that is encouraged here. Please read through Wikitravel:Welcome, business owners for more guidance. --Peter Talk 15:03, 17 March 2010 (EDT)


Nice job on Tonga. Thanks. Shep 15:07, 17 March 2010 (EDT)

Thanks. Our merge templates tend to accrue dust around here—maybe its time for a merging collaboration of the month? --Peter Talk 15:48, 17 March 2010 (EDT)


Питер, посмотрите пожалуйста свою русскую страницу. Digr 08:18, 21 March 2010 (EDT)


Hi Peter, I have been working a bit on the African region articles, mainly adding ODs and descriptions. If you could upload the SVG of Image:West Africa regions map.png, I will give it a going over with the current style brush :) One of your earliest maps I surmise. Also, while hunting for ODs, I noticed a couple of omissions from the Congo map: Ile Mbamou and Abala-Ndolo. Cheers --Burmesedays 00:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

I believe it is located here? And yes, she's a beauty, isn't she ;) If you wouldn't mind running off an export of the Russian layers, once you have updated the style, that would be much appreciated. (It's just a matter of turning off the en sublayers and enabling the ru ones.)
Ah, so it is. Dimwit here was looking at a redlink on the en page. Will do on the ru layers.--Burmesedays 01:45, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
Man, that is large base SVG! :) --Burmesedays 03:34, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
I'll make a point to update the Congo-Brazzaville map soon. --Peter Talk 01:11, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

Deleted hotel listing from the Cavtat & Mljet pages

Hi Peterfitzgerald, Could you tell me what's the reason for deleting my text from the pages for Cavtat & Mljet? There was no explanation, so I don't know where I'm going wrong.

Peter: anon user (and some other IP's followed after)caused trouble and finally blacklisting of a hotel chain User_talk:Jc8136#Spamming_German_articles_with_multiple_hotel_listings_and_always_in_the_splurge_section. which finally blacklisted due to your non-policy complaint behaviour. It's a SEO company jan 06:46, 24 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, but we have posted other articles in WikiTravel after this case. Now the rules are clear for us. So how could we be removed from this black list? I think we're following the WikiTravel guidelines for the last articles in Cavtat & Mljet pages.