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Happy New Years!

I felt like saying...between you and Gorilla Jones, you two successfully created 10 star articles this year. Congratulations! Looking forward to more in '08... PerryPlanet 22:09, 31 December 2007 (EST)


So you don't have to slog through my mass of recent edits to find them - Mas in Chicago/Wicker Park and Cafe Suron in Chicago/Rogers Park are closed, and I deleted a bar in the Chicago/Near South that had virtually no description or info beyond the address. Gorilla Jones 16:17, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Oh, and the Uptown map still needs Spacca Napoli. Thanks! Gorilla Jones 17:44, 5 January 2008 (EST)

partial revert re Meson David

Re [1]: looks like the user's experience is radically different from the previous recommendation. Why don't we help him to incorporate the opinion / to discuss the matter in Talk? --DenisYurkin 14:30, 6 January 2008 (EST)

The welcome

Thanks Peter - I like holidays & I like Wikis - maybe I can help a bit! Cheers --Herby talk thyme 09:36, 7 January 2008 (EST)

BTW don't know what you guys do about open proxies but both user: & user: look like open proxies to me and were placing porn links - is there an admin board or whatever? Cheers --Herby talk thyme 09:45, 7 January 2008 (EST)


Try (m|M)(i|I)(k|K)(e|E).*(m|M)(e|E)(t|T)(t|T)(e|E) ~ 06:38, 9 January 2008 (EST)

You might also want to add m-ikemettedefensefund\.org (without the hyphen) [2] - the above should catch it, but probably worth adding this too just in case ~ 12:40, 9 January 2008 (EST)

If you'll be around to re-protect it in 5 minutes, could you unprotect it? ~ 15:18, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Sure. Btw, the phrase you suggested cast too broad a net. For some reason it caught up this edit. --Peter Talk 15:21, 9 January 2008 (EST)
I think the problem was an extra blank line that crept in - I think it blacklisted every page, regardless of content. Anyway it's back in again now and everything seems to be OK. If it all goes pear-shaped, just revert the lot. Thanks. ~ 15:43, 9 January 2008 (EST)
BTW - did you mean to delete the dtdbxd0\.cn line [3] - ?

Penza Oblast

"Penzenskaya Oblast" looks like an alternative name - how about incorporating it as Penza Oblast (Penzenskaya Oblast) is a region in... or something like that? Then if someone searches for either "Penzenskaya" or "Penzenskaya Oblast" (which I'd guess must be possible/likely as that's the name of the Wikipedia article) the Penza Oblast article will show up. ~ 01:40, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Doesn't the redirect serve this purpose? I purposely avoided transliterations of adjectival names, since that goes against general English naming conventions. --Peter Talk 02:09, 11 January 2008 (EST)
The redirect does help, albeit in a rather roundabout way if you "Search" as opposed to "Go". Anyway, I think it's definitely worth having some form of ultra-simple confirmation on the page that the two names do refer to the exact same place - lots of people will have absolutely no idea what an adjectival form is. But I'll leave it up to you - thanks for the explanations. ~ 02:27, 11 January 2008 (EST)
Just curious - why <i> instead of '' - ? ~ 02:31, 11 January 2008 (EST)
I don't know exactly what was going on, but I hit all sorts of awful formatting problems using the wiki markup for italics. In part, at least, because the ' is necessary at the end of oblast' to denote the Russian character ь. --Peter Talk 02:33, 11 January 2008 (EST)
I had a play with it, but best I could come up with was ''Penzenskaya oblast' '') which leaves an unwanted space thus: Penzenskaya oblast' ) ~ 02:43, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Could you take a look at the (...Vologodskaya oblast’) bit of WikiPedia:Vologda Oblast - is that acceptable? ~ 12:20, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Travel guides in Russian

Dear Peter, I have wrote many articles or made a significant contibution)in Russian Wikipedia (Budapest, Madrid, Barcelona, Florence). Now I started to write articles in Russian Wikitravel. To my opinion, its level is too low. I can contribue due to my experience. The countries I visited are: Switzerland, UK, France, Spain, Czechia, Hungary, US, Italy. I can write also in English or Hebrew. See my Wikipedia page at [4]--Aklyuch 22:44, 14 January 2008 (EST)


Hi - I made a few edits to the entry for Morogoro, Tanzania, but they don't seem to show up. I looked at the history of the page and saw your userid. It looks like you're an experienced user of this site (I am not) so I thought I'd ask - did I do something wrong in trying to save the edits ? Do I just need to wait for someone to approve them ? I have many more edits for Morogoro, but I thought I'd wait until the first batch go through. Could you please reply at [deleted] ? Thanks. - Albert

Peter - Thanks for explaining. I'll continue to update the Morogoro site. My plan is to move everything from the REDOUBT site to WikiTravel - no sense in hoarding the data when there's a great site like this. Thanks. - Albert

traveler vs traveller

I thought "traveller" was already well established as the default for Wikitravel - see Main page, etc. ~ 22:49, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Yeah, we've been schizophrenic on that because Evan for whatever reason grew up using the English spelling. Like I said, it's not something I care too much about—I'd rather see a policy that encourages spellings local to the destination, so I'm not a big supporter of the American-only rule. --Peter Talk 22:52, 18 January 2008 (EST)
OK to continue standardising on "travell..." then? ~ 22:56, 18 January 2008 (EST)
standardizing :=) --Wandering 23:18, 18 January 2008 (EST)
No chance - if it's from one non-supporter of the American-only rule to another non-supporter of the American-only rule, then it's definitely with an s. ~ 23:23, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Well, again this is just my view and it's not a policy, but for me the most important thing is the consistency within a single locale. What exactly constitutes a single locale is up for debate, of course—I would argue that any collection of articles that would conceivably wind up in a single book (were such a book to be written) should have a purely consistent spelling/punctuation format. So I would definitely oppose "traveller" changes to Chicago, for example, because there is a published guide that needs to maintain consistency in (American) spelling. All this is not really in line with policy, though. It might be useful to bring this discussion to Wikitravel talk:Spelling, which is a policy I think could anyway benefit from more discussion and review. --Peter Talk 00:19, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Sleep section header in region articles

Hi, Peter. I noticed that you "restored" a Sleep header to the Arizona article. I believe it is policy that region articles do not have a Sleep section. In my experience that is good policy as everyone wants their listing in the highest geographical level for better exposure, but leaves us sorting huge lists to lower levels where they belong. -- OldPine 07:43, 19 January 2008 (EST)

No kidding! --Peter Talk 15:05, 19 January 2008 (EST)


If we're going to move the DC article, should we move it to Washington, D.C. and mind our commas? -- Sapphire(Talk) • 17:24, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Ah, good point, and thanks for catching me early! --Peter Talk 17:26, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Get in or Get out?

Peter, please tell me where to put the Khachmaz departing bus schedule?

To me, it seems it belongs in the "get out" section, but another user said it belongs in the "get in" space. Please advise.

Thanks,Starvinghog 01:24, 31 January 2008 (EST)

New user question

I am trying to add information about Norskedalen (where I work) to Wikitravel. Being new to this, I did create a user ID to disclose that the information comes from our non-profit rather than a traveler. I added to the 'See' section of Southwest Wisconsin (which is where I saw your name). I am not sure I did it right; the 'See' changed fonts and I didn't touch that, it has a 'link example' in blue at the end of the paragraph, and I wasn't sure if I should create a separate page for Norskedalen? I was just hoping you might give me a bit of guidance if you would be so kind. Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Svennorsk (talkcontribs)


Hi, thanks for the heads-up about the external links policy in Wikitravel, I'll be sure to follow it from now on. Please dump anything I added that may be inappropriate. Still, I hope the link to my Blues Brothers map might remain – I know of many fans of the movie who have used it as the basis of self-guided tours of the city, which is an interesting way to get off the beaten path. Best regards, Kevin Forsyth 11:14, 15 February 2008 (EST)

Typo patrol

'Bridgeport' has a typo in the map title here. Gorilla Jones 15:13, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Ack! Should now be fixed. --Peter Talk 15:25, 18 February 2008 (EST)


Thanks for the communication to the guy starting hotel articles. I though I did that, but I guess it got lost in the database problems. OldPine 18:08, 22 February 2008 (EST)


For the offer of help. I will no doubt take you up on it! And thanks, too, for all your great contributions to the site! (and for your patience with the tech issues that are being worked on).JuCo 18:38, 22 February 2008 (EST)


Thanks for the compliment on the San Diego overview map! Course, I got the idea from seeing one on the Chicago page... PerryPlanet 20:04, 23 February 2008 (EST)


Why do you want to delete the page of båtOpplevelse AS? Did I do anything wrong? I am new to Wikipedia and try to follow the rules. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Runhild (talkcontribs)

Hi, I left you a message on your talk page. First, this is not Wikipedia, this is Wikitravel. Second, we basically only write articles about travel regions and cities/towns. Please see Wikitravel:What is an article? for more information. --Peter Talk 18:09, 24 February 2008 (EST)


Peter - thanks. I was starting to plan my annual vacation and stumbled on Wikitravel. It seems to be a worthwhile effort, and I do a little traveling that might be of use to the site. Brhumphreys 23:37, 24 February 2008 (EST)

heya peter i stand corrected

you were right obama has a hotel mccain doesn-- 20:47, 26 February 2008 (EST)t hope your not mad but i did add southern pines has a inn.


Did you only pick up your Georgian in Georgia or did you learn it from other means? I'm curious, because I'd like to pick it up for fun.

If you don't mind me asking, what brings you to Toledo? I've been there once around this time of the year and if I'm not mistaken, it's the worst place to be on Earth. -- Sapphire(Talk) • 13:33, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Well, count me in on the vote for Ohio. I'm in Cincinnati and wished I could do campaigning, but without a car that's a tad difficult. I actually got to see/hear Obama at the University of Cincinnati a week or so ago. I'm glad that I got to go to that. -- Sapphire(Talk) • 14:10, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Texas subdivisions

Hi there! Since you've been there recently, I'd appreciate any commentary or contributions you might have on the recent work I'm doing to do subdivide the Texas Panhandle into more digestible-sized chunks. Also, I'll check out the new photo submission as soon as I'm not at a work computer that blocks Flickr. Texugo 01:26, 6 March 2008 (EST)

Talk at Russian section

Прошу вас обратить внимание на вашу страницу обсуждения в русском разделе Wikitravel. -- 03:19, 6 March 2008 (EST) ru:Участник:Sergey kudryavtsev

The Bears

So, the bears at Cabela's did not eat you? 2old 10:06, 6 March 2008 (EST)

Maryland map

Thanks a bunch for the map! I'm really excited to have that sort of quality content in Maryland. One question, though: shouldn't Talbot County be in the Eastern Shore? That's where it was in the Maryland tourism site I took the regions from. --Jonboy 19:29, 6 March 2008 (EST)

Yes! Cecil County. Good thing I don't have to re-take my 4th grade Maryland geography test. (Which I thought was ridiculous, since I had no intention of living here as an adult. Hah!) I'm happy to help out as much as I can. I'm spending the whole of March here (first month w/o travel in 3 years), so I'd be happy to pitch in with any Maryland/Mid-Atlantic projects. --Jonboy 20:56, 6 March 2008 (EST)

I realize this is a little picky, but shouldn't DC be shaded the same not-Maryland color as the rest of the not-Maryland part of the map? Until we have retrocession, it's probably a little less confusing that way. --Jonboy 12:22, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

Looks good, although I can't figure out how to get it to re-load from cache, so I had to go onto shared to look at it. Last December, I explained to a cab driver in Singapore that I was from just outside the capital, and he thought I was from New York. --Jonboy 13:36, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

Palo Duro Canyon photo

Hey, would you be willing to put the photo of the Lighthouse formation into the article for Palo Duro Canyon? Texugo 01:01, 7 March 2008 (EST)


No hoopla, but the quest begun last May is complete — we made Chicago a star. A moment of shared triumph, then... Gorilla Jones 00:16, 8 March 2008 (EST)

WorldFlicks external linking

Sorry, I just wanted some discussion on several pages on linking to WorldFlicks pages. I think it fits with the external linking policy, I don't see any point where it doesnt fit. I posted in on 10 popular places to get some good discussion... Where should be the best place to run this discussion? RonaldR 16:15, 9 March 2008 (EDT)


I'm a pain-in-the-ass about license issues, but could I ask that you waive the requirement for me to attribute you for this version of the Maryland expedition? I'd like to copy this over to other language versions and on en: too, but I'd likely forget to continually attribute you. -- Sapphire(Talk) • 19:25, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

Absolutely, consider it licensed as CC ShareAlike. The attribution requirement can be an unnecessary little thorn sometimes... --Peter Talk 19:31, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

Talk at Russian section

Питер, пожалуйста, ответте мне в ru:Обсуждение участника:Peterfitzgerald и ru:Обсуждение участника:Sergey kudryavtsev -- 10:24, 14 March 2008 (EDT) ru:Участник:Sergey kudryavtsev

Ireland Maps

Peter, I think I've messed up the Ireland maps (serves me right for messing with something I know nothing about!) I was trying to change the spelling of two of the towns shown on the road map, changing Moneghan to Monaghan and Carrick on Shannon to Carrick-on-Shannon. Is it something you can fix up easily, or have I made a complete mess of it!??! Sorry. --The.Q(t)(c) 10:45, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

Peter, firstly, apologies for the delay in getting back, but it was St. Patrick's Day yesterday, and the whole country (it seems) made a long weekend of it! Thanks for the assistance, and for allowing me the opportunity to fix it myself, hopefully I have it right now. Gee, but it's a complicated process, isn't it? Or have I just made it so? --The.Q(t)(c) 11:35, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

borders for Rome districts

Hi, Peter. I am about to sort out some part of listings in Rome; before I start, just to make sure: do you think there are high chances that you can help with definition of district borders for Rome in the nearest weeks? If so, I will postpone my edits until there some consensus on districts appear; otherwise I can plunge forward immediately with a dozen or two of moves that are clear even for a present district structure. What do you think? --DenisYurkin 04:09, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

Yes, I can definitely help! My attention is, as always, divided between different things, but don't wait on my account—I'll join the effort. --Peter Talk 11:17, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
I've done all I could do: moved Trastevere-based establishments from Rome into their district article. With the rest, it's not so easy. I have a dozen or two of good places around Pantheon and Campo di Fiori, but before we have some consensus on borders of districts there, I plan to add my listings directly to Rome--but maybe you have a better idea? --DenisYurkin 03:28, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Saint Petersburg (Russia)

Просматривая по вашему совету Chicago, я наткнулся там на раздел "Tourist Information" и понял, что я не рассказал о нём в русской статье. Сейчас я добавил раздел "Информационный центр для туристов" в ru:Санкт-Петербург и прошу вас добавить аналогичную информацию в Saint Petersburg (Russia) и обследовать английский раздел сайта на предмет полезной информации для англоязычных туристов. Вам, как иностранцу, более понятно что именно нужно добавить в английскую статью. -- 05:33, 17 March 2008 (EDT) ru:Участник:Sergey kudryavtsev

Хорошо. Я собираюсь мало-помалу переводить информацию с русского раздела на английский – в особенности мне хотелось бы полностью переводить так называемые «полные статьи» о тех местах, для котоырх соответствующие английские статьи являются недоразвитыми. Однако надо признаться, что я здесь занят другим проектом надо признаться. А будьте уверены, что содержание русской статьи о Питере в конце концов будет переведен! --Peter Talk 17:14, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

Maryland revert

Umm...did you mean to revert your comment on Talk:Maryland, or just the color change? --Jonboy 16:37, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for havin' my back! --Peter Talk 16:55, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

Status change for Virgin Gorda

I'm new to Wikitravel editing, and would like some guidance. I think the Virgin Gorda article can be upgraded from "Outline," but should it be "Usable" or "Guide?" RogerR 17:01, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Spam filter

Hi. I reverted your changes to the Wikitravel:Local spam blacklist because they seemed to match the phrase "" (or something similar) and prevented the editing of San Diego. See shared:Tech:Cannot_edit_San_Diego_page_due_to_faulty_spam_filter. --Jonboy 12:38, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

OK, I'm doing a quick test. --Peter Talk 12:50, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Map of Ballymote

Thanks for the comments. I've updated it a bit, now, does it look any better? By the way, I've left the following question on Wikitravel_talk:How to draw a map:

Hi. I'm in the process of trying to make a map for Sligo, and I'm getting on OK (I think), but I'd like some advice on how to show two specific things
1. How do I show a pedestrianised street? The main street in the centre of Sligo (O'Connell Street) was a regular road until about a year ago, but is now pedestrianised. How do I show drivers that this road cannot be used by car now?
2. As anyone who has ever tried to navigate Sligo by car will testify, it is a confusing (to say the least!!) mix of one-way streets. How do I show the only direction fo travel on any particular road?
Many thanks. --The.Q(t)(c) 11:18, 27 March 2008 (EDT)}}

--The.Q(t)(c) 11:29, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Travel news

Питер, добавте, пожалуйста, в Travel news:

В Санкт-Петербурге с 1 апреля 2008 года повышены цены на городской общественный транспорт: на метро -- с 14 до 17 рублей, на автобус, трамвай и троллейбус -- с 14 до 16 рублей.

PS: Кстати, надо бы нам и в русском разделе завести такую Ленту новостей. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 15:28, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Не дождался, потому добавил сам, проверте пожалуйста мой английский в Travel news#Transport taxes in Saint Petersburg was raised. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 04:02, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

Texas second level subregions

Since you commented on it before, I'd love it if you could give your opinions on the current discussion at Talk:Texas. Thanks!! Texugo 22:49, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

Templated listing layout problem

You do wikitravelpress, so I know layout matters to you. Is this is bothering you too? Texugo 00:37, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

Sri Lanka

Hi Peter

I'm planning a trip to Sri Lanka in August. Given the terrorist activity through out the country, so you think I should cancel my trip and go somewhere else? I was told that if we avoid public transport and stick to the south we should be fine.

What are your thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

Hmm, I'm no expert on Sri Lanka, having never been there myself. I have had a few friends travel there without incident, although that was years ago. The best advice I can give is to stick to the South/West, but you already know that ;) Generally, my attitude is that terrorism should not be a real concern for anyone traveling outside of Iraq—street crime in the average American city is almost always a greater danger than exotic terrorism. --Peter Talk 17:13, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

Chicago: Wicker Park map

This isn't totally urgent, but I thought I should just point out that the Handlebar is located on North Avenue; on the map it is incorrectly placed on Division Street. Eco84 14:27, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for catching that! Should be corrected now. --Peter Talk 17:10, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

Russian section needs administarative actions

Питер, срочно защитите спам-фильтр руссского раздела! Diff вандала - на вашей странице обсуждения. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 15:09, 7 May 2008 (EDT)



What do you think of the Sheki site now? What else can be improved? Cupcakecommander


Your info on the southeast side of chicago is right on, except for the fact that a lot of the stores and restaurants no longer exist. You also forgot to mention Calumet Fisheries on East 95th Street (Where the Blues Brothers jumped the bridge) Mexican Inn on 95th and Ewing Avenue Heinies Fish and Chicken (outstanding shrimp and gizzards) The Shedd , for a cocktail or O'Hara's Bar, The Crowbar. There is no bowling alley, comic book store....

Hey cool, help me out on this! The Far Southeast Side is huge, and I definitely know certain neighborhoods better than others. Please go right ahead & delete any places you know have closed, and I'll try to get those suggestions in and on the map! There's a ton of cool stuff around there, I'll be sure to check out Heinies ;) --Peter Talk 02:20, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Embassies and consulates

Питер, скажите, в какой статье надо описывать посольства и консульства - в статье об этом городе, где они находятся, или же в статье о государстве? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 16:14, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Если я не ошибаюсь, мы всегда описываем их только в статье о городе, в котором они находятся (но не в статьях о районах). --Peter Talk 16:26, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
А тогда почему они не описаны в статье о Чикаго, одной из лучших статей английского Wikitravel? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 01:47, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
Потому что больлшинство статьи было написано двумя Американцами, которые очень забыли это сделать ;) --Peter Talk 03:40, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

User:Peterfitzgerald's disgusting and ignorant Russia slander ;)

You have very Ignorant and biased information on Russia. Just becuase you were treaty badly does not mean others would be. Yor information you posted was disgusting and no bounds of truth. Shame on you for your lies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

I'm sorry that what you read offended you. First, I did not write the information about MinVody that you object to, but I regardless think your content removal there was unwarranted. In any rate, I will respond to your concerns on the appropriate article talk pages. Moreover, in the time that I lived in Russia I do not think I was treated better or worse than any other time in my life (а я даже бы сказал, что Россия – мое самое любимое место, в котором я когда-нибудь жил). --Peter Talk 03:23, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
Tell'em Peter!! snicker,snicker lol. 2old 10:19, 6 June 2008 (EDT)


Питер, я сейчас перевожу Wikitravel:Article naming conventionsru:Участник:Sergey kudryavtsev/Wikitravel:Именование статей. В английском тексте есть пример Eight mile junction - что это такое? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:34, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

По-моему это какой-то перекрёсток дорог где-то в Новой Зеландии. Наверно было бы лучше придумать какой-либо пример названия на русском, в котором включается номер, всегда образованный по буквам. --Peter Talk 04:15, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Противоположных примеров, где следует использовать числа, куча, а те, где надо записывать словами - только улицы да мосты приходят в голову... -- Sergey kudryavtsev 01:59, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
С помощью Википедии нашёл-таки пример. Теперь, пожалуйста, переведите смысл оставшихся фраз на английском. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 02:52, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Virgin Gorda Map

Thanks for adding the map:

Here are some adjustments on the restaurant locations, most minor a couple major.

Put Rock Cafe above LSL Bakery. It's at the T-intersection (yes, it's still the same rocks as at The Baths).

Put Island Pot across Tower Road from LSL Bakery.

Mine Shaft Restaurant is a little inland from the coppermine, on the north side of the road:

Put Flying Iguana on the lower left cornr of the Airport icon. It's on the south side of the airport road.

RogerR 22:51, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Virgin Gorda telepohones--do you just dial seven digits?

Sorry, I don't know how to dial within Virgin Gorda--the nice folks at Guavaberry made all our calls for us!


i thought if a place has sleep its kept

all those enteries you deleted had sleep. i dont understand. -- 04:35, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

can you help me with it? --Peter Talk 04:37, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

help you with what? please be more specific. -- 04:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

the question i game you. --Peter Talk 04:40, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

help you with new travel guides ok i understand sure thing peter just thought someone hijacked your account for a second. the grammar is not good. -- 04:42, 24 June 2008 (EDT)


why can't you accept any outlines i do why do they all have to have sleep? -- 11:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

i am sorry i just try to help the deletion. --Peter Talk 12:35, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Fish crack?

You've put fish crack in the index of our book? You've gone made with apostrophes, sir. Gorilla Jones 00:17, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Bangladesh map

That one's been at the top of my list forever, but I couldn't bring myself to trace out that bitch of a coastline.... thanks for doing the smart thing and finding it on Commons! Looks great and much needed – cacahuate talk 23:58, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Credit for articles?

Peter, I just made a boo-boo. I made several contributions to articles on Kaliningrad and Murmansk, only to discover that, when my dial-up connection dropped out midway, I was no longer logged in to Wikitravel when I continued, meaning that my contributions were attributed to "Anonymous." Considering that I brought these articles from almost zero info to having at least basic info populated in most of the fields, I'd rather have some credit rather than Anonymous. In the Murmansk article, I "undid" everything then resubmitted the info after logging on. Not sure if that's the kosher way to do it -- one could steal another's work that way, but I was only repopulating my own. Should I do the same for today's edits to Kaliningrad, or is there another, better fix? -Andrewsyria

Hey Andrew, if you'd like a "cleaner" way of doing it, I could delete the article, then restore it to the point just before you started editing it. Then you could copy/paste in the current version and get credit for it that way. You'd have to hold on to the copied version in the meantime, on notepad or a User:Andrewsyria/Sandbox page. Let me know if you'd like to do that and I'll be happy to oblige. Two other things: you can auto-sign & date-stamp your comments by typing four tildes ~~~~; and thanks for all the awesome work you've been doing! --Peter Talk 01:03, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks. The Murmansk article is undone and redone. OK to leave it as it is now, although I went about it the hard way. As for Kaliningrad, would you mind reverting it to the article before the July 6 edits? I have those on notepad, and I can rebuild it from there, I also found a bit more data to add for some of the listings, so I can build on it, too. Thanks again for your help.
Done. --Peter Talk 20:28, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Travel news

Питер, подправте, пожалуйста, грамматику и стилистику в Travel news (1 августа). -- Sergey kudryavtsev 02:41, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Спасибо. -- Sergey kudryavtsev


why do u delete my portions of data in the document??? id: [email protected]

I reverted your edit because it added a tour listing that violates our tour policy. Also, adding a listing multiple times in one page is considered spamming. --Peter Talk 22:33, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

Another revert question - this edit looks like a legitimate question to me, although I don't know the user's history. Would it make more sense to just move that edit to Wikitravel talk:Local spam blacklist? If the user really is trying to edit without touting it would be good to give him some feedback. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:33, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

I reverted that one, because other incarnations of that organization (like this one) were edit warring to spam each and every Hawaiian island article with links to their site. Since then, they've been leaving messages on my talk page touting their site and adding multiple links. That last one was a good deal less egregious, but my revert finger is twitchy on this issue, and I'm not inclined to give a lot of leeway to use my talk page as a touting platform. --Peter Talk 00:35, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Boston Districts

I'm soliciting advice, particularly as regards the process, on how to district Boston from both you and Gorilla as you have been through this. When you get the time, please let me know of any guidance you can offer. Pleas see Talk:Boston#DISTRICTS (again). Thanks. --OldPine 12:43, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Northern Ireland

Peter Fitzgerald, Thanks for editing Northern Ireland page - just one day before yesterday. I'm brazilian and going there next september, and the informations are very useful. Good lock Bye Claudia

No problem, I hope you enjoy your trip ;) --Peter Talk 00:35, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Lake Point Tower

Good call on the trim for the skyline guide. But Lake Point Tower is a condo building, so technically lots of people "own" it along with Oprah (if she's got a condo there). Gorilla Jones 19:17, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

A little fact check makes me pretty certain that I got some bad information on the street on this one—now I'm not sure if she ever lived there at all! --Peter Talk 19:33, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for figuring out Melbourne/Carlton

Hey Peter! Thanks for helping me figure out the links in Melbourne/Carlton. You're the BEST! :) Kaci 14:19, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

No problem ;) --Peter Talk 17:10, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

PA regions

Hi Peter. I see you've listed yourself as working on the PA regions map. I left some comments at Talk:Pennsylvania if you're interested. LtPowers 09:16, 1 August 2008 (EDT)


Thanks for your help again at San Francisco/Chinatown-North Beach. I like the following photo a lot, and would like to add it [5] (it's the musical barber under the "Do" section)..however, I read that photos of people were a no-no. Given that he's the real attraction here, would this rule apply here too in your opinion? Thanks Asterix 17:51, 1 August 2008 (EDT)


Thank you very much regarding this,

i would like to improve the article for hunza, as further more sub sections, and i want to use a few more redirects, as few names are known to different in locals, like UPPER HUNZA, will be redirected to GOJAL and so LOWER HUNZA should be redirected SHINAKI and so few more. and yes about the content copying you are right in saying that, and i am trying to improve the article as much as i can and i am trying to get the references from where i am taking the data,

and in more details as u may have see some tags i have put, but those are need to be filled so i might copy(take) content from some other sites, so please let me know if there would be any copyright issue so that there wont be any kind of such issues rising,

I hope you will help us improving the article about hunza further more and with more details

Thanks & regards Samsaleem 05:33, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Antarctica map

Hi, Peter. Nice job with Image:Antarctica regions map.png, but you forgot to include the compass rose showing which direction is North. LtPowers 10:08, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

It's imposible to mark north direction on this map. :-)) But Piter should mark the Greenwich meridian. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 14:24, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Yes, I know; I was trying to be funny. LtPowers 20:11, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Heh heh, I considered putting the compass rose pointing in all directions. --Peter Talk 21:37, 6 August 2008 (EDT)


I am native Russian speaker. I also speak English (high level) and Japanese (intermediate level). I own big official website about Japan and can provide lots of information on this topic. Let's make Russian article about Japan together.

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Thanks for the Welcome


Just wanted to say thanks for the welcome. I've been using wikitravel for about a year now and I finally decided to add something. I'm sure I'll see you around.

Thanks again,--Matt Talk 11:39, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

IP blocked

Hi Peter my IP address has been blocked in German and also I cannot modify anything in Italian. My IP address is Thanks for your help


That is strange—your ip has been unblocked on the German version (see de:special:log/block). Would you please try again there. Let me know if that works, then I will make a request on the Italian version. --Peter Talk 18:06, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Chicago/Wicker Park map again

I just noticed that the distance key is wrong. The line representing a quarter mile actually looks more like a half mile. Eco84 11:21, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Chicago/South Chicago Shore map

The 55th-56th-57th Metra station is mislabeled as "55th-56th-59th". Eco84 12:03, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Other Chicago maps

Sorry to keep hassling you about the Chicago district maps, just thought I should point out a few more errors:

Near South: The See/Do key is messed up. Numbers 3 and 4 are missing, replaced by numbers 12 (Charter One Pavilion) and 10 (Dearborn Station). Charter One appears as number 4 on the map, and Dearborn Station appears as number 3; these should be switched.

Lakeview: Distance key is off; it's labeled as 0.25 when it's actually 0.5. Belmont red/brown/purple line station appears to be missing.

Near North: Distance key is off; it's labeled 0.5 when it's actually 0.25. The Mag Mile inset might be off, but I can't tell for sure.

Far Southeast Side: The main map is fine, but on the Pullman inset, the Kensington/115th Metra station is mislabeled as "Kensington/111th".

Uptown: Argyle red line stop isn't labeled (not sure if there is space for this or not), and the Berwyn red line stop is missing. The Bryn Mawr red line stop is missing and could fit on the map, but it falls completely outside the district boundaries by several blocks so it probably isn't that important.

North Lincoln: The main map is fine, but on the Lincoln Square inset, the distance key is labeled as 125 kilometers (!!!); I'm assuming this was supposed to be 125 meters.

That's all I have for now. I'd fix these myself if that were possible/if I knew how. Eco84 17:51, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

It's no hassle at all—I really appreciate the criticism. I have the widespread problem of not being able to effectively proof my own work. I've fixed the Wicker Park & South Chicago Shore maps, and will get to the others soon. If you're traveling around the city, I hope you're enjoying yourself! --Peter Talk 18:05, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Hello from atitarev

Thanks for the warm greetings, Peterfitzgerald. Quick question (hopefully). Do you know how to add quickly an accent to a Cyrillic or Latin letter? Like this: Спаси́бо or Sharápova (I copied and pasted). --Atitarev 09:16, 14 August 2008 (EDT) --Atitarev 09:16, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

For a cyrillic letter is a only way to insert &#x0301; (html syntax for a unicode char U+0301 "Combine acute accent") after a accented vowel, e.g. спаси́бо. For a latin letter you can use either &#x0301; or already accented unicode chars like &#x00E1; for a accented small "a", e.g. Sharápova. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 10:17, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
I've also imported шаблон:ударение from the Russian version of Wikitravel, it displays like this: Яку́тск, with the syntax Яку{{subst:accent}}тск. So just subst: the template right after the letter you wish to accent. Hope that helps! --Peter Talk 14:19, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
It certainly does, Thank you! Could use this template somewhere else? --Atitarev 07:33, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
Yes, just copy/paste the template to other language versions. --Peter Talk 17:55, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Travel news

Церемония развода караула в Стокгольме

Питер, помогите ещё раз с английским в новостях ("A guards mounting starts at Saint Petersburg Peter and Paul Fortress", 9 августа). Особенно я волнуюсь, будет ли понятно "a guards mounting"? По-русски это называется "развод караула", нечто подобное, но в больших масштабах, происходит во дворе Королевского дворца в Стокгольме. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:26, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Я не понимаю совсем - это какой-то показ караула? Или замена, как в Лондоне? А вы имеете в виду, что это регулярное событие, которое началось в 9 августа, и продолжается каждый день? Может быть легче написать то, что вы имеете в виду по-русски, так чтобы я мог бы его перевести прямо. --Peter Talk 01:35, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
По-русски я имею ввиду вот что:

Развод караула -- это когда командир отряда, охраняющего некий объект, назначает своим подчинённым те места, которые они должны охранять (т.е. разводит их по местам). Здесь церемония символическая, как дань традиции. Сам я эту церемонию ещё не видел, но обещают военный оркестр, плац-парад и торжественный вынос флагов России и Петербурга. Вы можете ещё почитать вот эту статью. Про полуденный выстрел вы, наверное, знаете, пушка установлена именно на Нарышкином бастионе. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 04:29, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
Сделано. Извините за свою медленность! --Peter Talk 16:29, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
Спасибо, выложил на главную страницу. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 04:46, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Massachusetts regions

Sorry about the delay in responding. I forgot about your question and then was actually travelling. You asked if the regions were solid enough to move forward on. It has been noted that the list exceeds the 7 +/- 2 guideline (see talk page). The consolidation option on the talk page there is a decent one. I'll get on it as soon as I can. OldPine 07:01, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

I wouldn't worry about 11 as opposed to 9 for regions, but if consolidation makes sense from a travel perspective, by all means go forward with that. Let me know when it's final, and I'll get working on the map! --Peter Talk 17:56, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Comment response

Hi, Peter. I responded to your question here. Just letting you know; since you weren't logged in I thought it might not have made it onto your watchlist. =) LtPowers 09:04, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Georgia talk 09:43, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

I don't want to get too much into my personal politics here, but this is a really depressing event for me. I know a lot of people who live and vacation in that area. I hope they're ok, but I don't have many good ways to contact them. From a travel perspective, it's also a disaster for this little country, and for me, since I spent so much effort working on the Gori article, which may or may not have been made very outdated by the bombings & assaults.
It's also depressing to see these countries at each other's throats, when they for so long have had such a great relationship (and depressing since I'm both a Russophile and Kartvelophile...). I think that Gorbachev's arguments fly in the face of international norms of behavior, but not to the extent that the American invasion of Iraq did, so it's awful hard for our government to challenge Russia's invasion even diplomatically. I must add, though, that the popular Russian arguments for the military reprisal seem really hypocritical in light of their campaign to control and keep within the federation Chechnya—a campaign which I thought very much justified. --Peter Talk 17:12, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi from Crowsnest

Hi Peter, Thanks for the complement. I really spun-off here as I wanted to get something down in text form. My real passion is for OpenStreetMap and I am having fun mapping out the Crowsnest Pass via GPS, see

There is a group who have just release a history-route map of places in the Pass. There is no copyright statement so I'm trying to get in touch with the author so see if he/she will license the text under CC. Would be nice to import this into the pages for the separate towns.

Is it legit to take other people's CC work and relicense under CC-SA? Or do you have to exactly match terms?

Cheers, Mungewell.

Yes, if it is licensed as CC-Attribution, you are within your rights to relicense it as CC-Attribution-ShareAlike, since the absence of the ShareAlike clause means you can distribute it under any licensing, as long as you maintain attribution. I've tried fooling around with OpenStreetMap too, but am endlessly frustrated by the fact that I can't use street names taken from non-free content maps! --Peter Talk 16:05, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
It's seems as delirium that a street names may be copyrighted by anyone... :-0 Where you read this, Piter? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 02:57, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
The street names are not copyrighted, but the maps from which you might get names are. And if that map has idiosyncratic, or especially incorrect, names, then copying them will make the derivative map not 100% free. I still get street names all the time from existing copyrighted maps, but I'm not so perfectionist as OpenStreetmap! In any rate, I certainly agree that intellectual property right laws are often pathological, sometimes downright insane. --Peter Talk 03:02, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the compliment

Hi Peter. Cheers for the note on my Talk page. The support is appreciated! Tarr3n 13:54, 21 August 2008 (EDT)


Hi Peter, I have made all the last minute adjs as per star nom page. I tried to readjust the color areas per 'Loin neighborhoods but wasn't able to snap them neatly to the street grid. I wonder can I ask you to tweak it please?

  • Little Saigon should be stretched (not moved) one block south to Turk
  • Tandoor-Loin should be stretched (not moved) one block west to Leavenworth St
  • The Polk Gulch is a bit off. It's everything north of Geary St between Polk and Hyde should run right to the end of the map as it technically goes into the next neighborhood.
  • The Tendernob is Geary to Sutter between Larkin and Mason.
  • Finally, for the general Tenderloin area (everything else) it should be light pink everywhere else in between this boundary (except of course for the other colors above): starting at Polk St and Golden Gate Ave intersection and going round clockwise...Polk St....Sutter St...Mason St...Market St...and finally Golden Gate Ave (back to Polk St and Golden Gate Ave intersection)

I hope this is clear, if not let me know. One last thing, looking at it I forgot to put a "1." beside the first drink listing, could you oblige whilst you're at it? Thanks again Asterix 18:46, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

I'm just about done making these changes, but it seems like Pork Gulch and Tendernob overlap between Geary & Sutter, Larkin & Hyde. Should they? --Peter Talk 21:33, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
ooops, sorry....Polk Gulch should be everything north of Geary St between Van Ness Ave and Larkin St. Sorry bout that! Asterix 12:14, 23 August 2008 (EDT)
Should be fixed now! --Peter Talk 16:46, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

St Pete status

Thanks for your thoughts on the St Pete article. I'm trying to develop it as fast as I can, but if others beat me to it, all the better. As for restaurants, yes, there are a million, but I suspect there will have been significant turnover since 2003. Any Uzbek restaurants you can add would be great - there are too few now, and the one closest to me has been boarded up for about a year now. Would be glad to collaborate somehow on looking into your old favorites.--Andrewsyria 02:12, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

Data Dumps

In fact I haven't done for some time. I think the best way to do it would be to use Special:Export and Special:RecentChanges to track changes to the site. -- Mark 04:52, 26 August 2008 (EDT)


I just added a couple sentences to the Chicagoland article to emphasize the ties to Southeast Wisconsin and Northern Indiana. If you do an article on Lake County (Indiana), then we could specify that that and Kenosha are often included in Chicagoland--either at the beginning, the end or both.

I guess what I'm trying to avoid is having a summary of Lake County that appears both in Northern Indiana and in Chicagoland--likewise with Kenosha and SE Wisconsin. It just seems like bad organization to me--as the sections evolve in the natural wiki way, they either have to be kept manually in synch or else they'll diverge in ways that are not helpful to the user of the site (e.g., having to look two places to get all the useful info--or mistakes being corrected in one place but not the other). Keeping them separate and cross-referenced would be my preference--which I guess I've made clear; my apologies if I'm belaboring the point.

Anyway, since you and I seem to be the only ones currently paying attention to the Chicagoland page, I'm wondering what you think of the changes I've made to it--I'm a newcomer to Wikitravel and I'm trying to bring the page more in line with the ideal form of a regional article, but I'm not precisely clear what that is. Am I doing the right thing with the attractions, for instance? And was getting rid of the hotels en masse the right thing to do? If those all didn't seem like they had been put there by PR agents, I might have been more circumspect.

Nareek 17:26, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

Do you know of a good example of a sub-state regional article that Chicagoland could more or less follow as a model? Nareek 23:59, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

Colorado regions

That's an excellent draft map, and it does a good job of pointing out some of the challenges of making Colorado regions. In a "flatter" state, use of latitude and longitude, or at most reliance on highways, usually provides adequate guidance in setting up regions. When regions are defined by mountain ranges (and, usually, the borders of those regions by the resulting valleys), however, things meander, and highly non-intuitive "regions" result if one aims for consistency in transportation routes, regional attractions, and so on. Actually, Arizona is even more of a pain in this regard than Colorado is...

It's probably most practical to consider the "black" region part of Northwestern Colorado, although perfectly sensible arguments can be made either way. One reason is that the northwest region otherwise gets rather short shrift in terms of destinations and attractions; may as well give it Aspen, Glenwood Springs and Grand Junction to beef up the content somewhat, although Aspen "feels" more like part of the southwest or South Central Colorado regions in many regards. For destinations along the border, there are always hard choices -- and one of the things about a mountain state is that the destinations will be along the borders, because valleys bearing the roads, rivers and other things that define the borders are exactly where the cities are built. One challenge is to come up with a simple, tidy description of the resulting western regions, but it looks like you've made headway on that, at least graphically.

To me the distinction between the Denver region and others is less of a problem. One simple criterion works: if it's urban, it's part of the Denver region; if it's rural, put it in one of the others. Your draft does quite a good job with that, although my wife's brother's house probably gets bisected by the western edge of the Denver region ... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:20, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

Site advertising

Питер, взгляните на User:Sworldist. Это выглядит как будто, учётная запись создана только для рекламы сайта. В Википедии это считается нарушением, а здесь? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:36, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

Я бы предпочёл просто удалять такие страницы, как делается в Википедии. Но здесь принято удалить только те страницы участника, у которых ссылок очень много. У нас было долгое обсуждение по этой теме. Во всяком случае, я бы не возражал, если в русском разделе мы будем удалять рекламные страницы для участников, которые не участвуют в проекте. А если участник работает над Википутешествием и рекламирует на свою страницу, по-моему это не должно считаться нарушением. --Peter Talk 18:30, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
Я тоже так считаю. Давайте, когда будем переводить на русский Wikitravel:User page help, введём норму об удалении явной рекламы с личных страниц участников через обсуждение в ru:Wikitravel:Запросы на удаление? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:13, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

shared:User:Diversity - ещё один "рекламщик". -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:48, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Region Maps

Hi, thanks for the compliments on the Lower Mainland map and the link to the Regions Map Expedition. I like maps so I'd be happy to chip in help out (although slowly since I don't have too much free time and fixing up Vancouver and area is my first priority).

One question about map making -- are we allowed to trace a copyrighted image to make a map? I'd like to think that style things added by the map maker are copyrighted but the shape of the earth and street layout isn't! Thanks. Shaund 11:13, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Help with Duplicate pages for 1 City

Hey Peter, do you know how to fix a problem of there being two pages for one city? Springboro, Ohio has two pages, Springboro and Springboro (Ohio). The first one is the more up to date version, and the second one has been abandoned. How can I delete the second page, and make sure no other pages link to the duplicate? Thanks.Jtesla16 18:10, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Thats exactly what I was looking for, thank you. Does Wikitravel have a system of Service Awards or any fun ways to encourage and recognize contributions? You seem due for more than a few. If you're not familiar with the idea | here is an example. Jtesla16 01:24, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the help.


Thanks for the help in cleaning up the page. Please bear with me as I'm new. —The preceding comment was added by Tristan1961 (talkcontribs) .

Golden Gate

Hi, firstly, yes I am bit bummed that no one read the article, however, I was certainly not referring to you — who has diligently read all of the other noms.

As regards me taking the article down 50 mins early...I was unaware, but now that I have checked, yes it was 45 mins early. However, I'm sure it says that we've 14 days in total to have a discussion about if you had of intended on making any changes, technically that would have only left me with 45 mins to rectify — otherwise it would be the "slush pile." Imo, any comments should come in at least 24 hours prior to the deadline to allow the nominator at least some time to rectify the mistakes. Asterix 15:26, 3 September 2008 (EDT)


It was just missing thumb on the image. I've fixed and it is now displaying correctly. --Nick 03:16, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Great, thanks! --Peter Talk 10:56, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Qualifications for "usable" article status

Peter, on your Maryland Expedition, you spell out here: Wikitravel:Maryland_Expedition#Current_priorities - Very close to usable, and should get there in no time with a little collective push. Needs: at least 2 Drink listings; a couple Get out destinations; addresses, where listings lack them. Are these sort of qualifications for "usable" article status spelled out anyplace? I am currently having a conflict with a new contributor who I believe is promoting articles prematurely. gamweb 14:47, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Wikipedia legal violations

Gamweb and myself have been disputing over his contributions to Florida pages. I contend that he is data dumping from wikipedia and the yellowpages. The following pages are straight wikipedia-copy-and-pastes: Palatka from wikipedia, Sebring from wikipedia, Canaveral_National_Seashore from wikipedia, Fort Myers from wp, Escambia County (Florida) from wp, DeLand from wp, Sanford (Florida) from wp. These are merely the latest examples I could dig up in his recent edits. I believe this activity to be much more widespread by this user. What can be done to stop this? Jtesla16 19:01, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Fyi: the stuff I fixed up were mere phonebooks of info, not copyvios. -- Colin 22:26, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Wikipedia & Wikitravel

Peter, I have attempted to "rechew" any text that I may have seen at Wikipedia as an example. In the case of Canaveral National Seashore, I found a source of Public Domain text from the National Park Service (an agency of the US Government), which Wikipedia cannot claim as their own copyrighted work. However, if you have any problems with anything else I have added here, let me know. I left you a related message on Wikitravel shared a few days ago, if you could take a look please. gamweb 20:31, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and I am a Wikipedia contributor myself. I suppose I have to make certain I add any text here first, before adding it to Wikipedia? gamweb 21:13, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
No, the content is yours and you can do whatever you like with it — but it may be useful to note on the Talk page that it really is yours, and not just copied from someone else's work on WP. Jpatokal 03:59, 8 September 2008 (EDT)

St Davids

Hi Peter. Cheers for the compliments on my Talk Page. It led me to have a nose at your user page, which reminded me of some work I meant to do on St Davids (I had to find out where your favourite "country pub" was, but didn't expect it to be in one of my favourite spots in the World). I see Edinburgh is on your wishlist - do give me a shout if you make it. Tarr3n 05:20, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

== New York (City) == In "Getting In" section, link for JFK airport (as of 1430 local, 11 Sept, results in 404 error. Please check/correct as needed. Thanks for great site. John Henne