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== Usurpation of account name "''Alice''" ==
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== Would like to help you further... ==
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Bonjour Paul,
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I have subscribed to the English, French and Dutch version of Wikitravel, it feels exciting and I hope I can be helpful here and there... :) [[User:Porteplume|Porteplume]]
  
I am sorry for this edit and causing you extra work to revert it:
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:Hey! So exciting to see you here Viviane! We look forward to seeing you on FR and NL as well, since I know you are a multilingual expert. And of course we look forward to your photos :) Welcome!!--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] ([[User talk:IBobi|talk]]) 13:53, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
 
 
http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=User%3ASingapore.Alice&action=historysubmit&diff=1932184&oldid=1931985
 
 
 
I did not know it was not allowed - there is a lot to learn!
 
 
 
If the re-direct is not allowed, then please may I usurp the User account name of "'''''Alice'''''"?
 
 
 
This inactive user account name of "Alice" has never made a single contribution (since it was created at 19:14hrs, 3 September 2011):
 
http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=Alice&page=&year=&month=-1
 
 
 
whereas I wish to actively contribute and get my edits properly attributed.
 
 
 
Thank you!  
 
 
 
Alice (from Singapore). --[[User:Singapore.Alice|Singapore.Alice]] 14:01, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:Hi Alice, we're very excited that you will be contributing to Wikitravel! Welcome aboard! Unfortunately, we cannot grant users access to names already registered by others. Even though a user may not be editing using their account, they may still be viewing content with it (there are many good reasons to register at Wikitravel rather than anonymously browsing). Besides, I think your chosen name is great! Let me know with any other questions or concerns,--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 14:46, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
::Thank you for your very fast and friendly response.
 
::Are you suggesting that people logon just to read Wikitravel and without ever interacting in any other way?
 
::What would be the advantage to a user in logging on just to read?
 
 
 
::Are you also saying that, apart from logging a log-in, you also record the pages logged on readers read?
 
::Is that unusual practice mentioned in your privacy statement? --[[User:Singapore.Alice|Singapore.Alice]] 15:02, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:::People do log in just to read WT. Logging in allows you to set preferences affecting your user experience.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 16:17, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
::::Ah, you're right. I can now see in my preferences that I can check "Do not show ad column"
 
::::Since the email facility is disabled here, would you email [[User:Alice]] and ask if she would be prepared to relinquish her account to me, an editor?
 
 
 
:::::Would you answer me please? --[[User:Singapore.Alice|Singapore.<b><font color="#0000DD">A</font><font color="#0066FF">l</font><font color="#0099FF">i</font><font color="#00CCFF">c</font><font color="#00EEFF">e</font></b>]][[Special:Emailuser/Singapore.Alice|<font color="#FF3333"><sup>✉</sup></font>]] 19:07, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
::::::You may feel free to leave Alice a message on her Talk page.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 19:30, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
==Clarification of current policies==
 
You may recall that after I was nominated by yourself as an administrator [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Wikitravel:Administrator_nominations&oldid=1936845 here], I made some "'''Clarifications:'''". My second clarification was:
 
 
 
"'''2)''' Until the last couple of months or so, I thought I had a reasonable understanding of Wikitravel policies - not least because many of them had been patiently established and developed (largely by community discussion and consensus) over the more than 6 years that I have been editing here on Wikitravel!<br>
 
Now, I do not think ''anyone'' is 100% clear as to what policies exactly currently take priority. If I am approved, I will encourage the site owners to clarify and crystallise what community policies have been suspended (and for what period), which have been dropped entirely, and what (if any) is the procedure that the site owners wish for discussing policy amendment or restoration."
 
 
 
Due to medical reasons, I may have more time in the future to update our articles.
 
 
 
I intend to begin with [[New Zealand]] of which I have many happy memories of holidays spent there.
 
 
 
Could you clarify whether it is still in order to link to the official tourist website of a particular country, please?
 
 
 
I assume it is, but please just revert me without prejudice if I am mistaken. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 05:04, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:Hi W Frank! As far as I'm aware, a link to an official (read: not commercial) tourism board site is ok. Glad you'll have time to work here, you are most welcome.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 14:25, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
::Please call me "Frank", Sir. It's my [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_name#Forenames ''Rufname'' in my native Germany].
 
::Thanks for your quick response, Sir, on this specific point and I look forward to clarification and crystallisation of what community policies have been suspended (and for what period), which have been dropped entirely, and what (if any) is the procedure that the site owners wish for discussing policy amendment or restoration when time allows.
 
::I have started on [[New Zealand]] today and hope to continue with its daughters when I have time. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 15:05, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Chimera ==
 
I know you IBadmins are very busy right now, but may I draw your attention to [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Himera&oldid=1937432#Experience this page] (if it's not already on your watchlist). I have already drawn the attention of the blocking admin, IBcash, but I believe you will be able to examine and compare the IP's from which [[User:Himera]] has previously posted.
 
 
 
For what it's worth, my personal recommendation would be to at least unblock [[User:Himera]] from editing [[User_Talk:Himera]] until the current issues are unequivocally resolved. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 10:41, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
 
 
==Reserved user names==
 
If it is technically possible and for the sake of clarity (and the prevention of impersonation), I would propose that the creation of new user accounts beginning "'''IB'''" be restricted to Bureaucrats. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 11:08, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:Good idea if possible -- I'm not sure. Have you noticed anyone trying to create such names/impersonate admins?--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 13:20, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
 
::No, but I suspect it's only a matter of time (now I've given the game away), so I would suggest you move quickly. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 13:49, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
 
:::You're a subtle troll, W. Frank. [[User:IBunny|IBunny]] 23:54, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
  
 
== Sitenotice on zh: ==
 
== Sitenotice on zh: ==
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:::: The Sitenotice was changed today. Please [[ja:MediaWiki:Sitenotice|have a look]]. Is it fine right now? Cheers! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 20:21, 28 November 2012 (EST)
 
:::: The Sitenotice was changed today. Please [[ja:MediaWiki:Sitenotice|have a look]]. Is it fine right now? Cheers! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 20:21, 28 November 2012 (EST)
  
=="undoing vandalism"; adding multiple links to bestdest.info==
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==Test edits==
There's a new Spammers trick.
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Can [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Hermosillo&diff=2186569&oldid=2186558 these test edits] be removed now, please?
 
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: I removed it. Thanks! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] ([[User talk:IBAlex|talk]]) 12:43, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
One "Blackhat" vandalizes multiple pages - then the "Whitehat" comes riding to the rescue by claiming to "revert vandalism".
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::Thank you. I would like to think that these tests include planning to have [[xl|external links]] shown in our recommended style (ie linked to the '''name''' of the listing) rather than continuing to produce those meaninglessly incrementing, footnote style, little numbers... --[[User:Ttcf|Ttcf]] ([[User talk:Ttcf|talk]]) 16:02, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
 
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:::Please would you favour me with a response. --[[User:Ttcf|Ttcf]] ([[User talk:Ttcf|talk]]) 18:51, 24 November 2014 (EST)
However the "Whitehat" does more than just a simple "undo",
 
he adds, in contravention of [[XL|our external links policy]], a series of [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Malta&action=historysubmit&diff=1941063&oldid=1937154 artfully tailored links] to "www.bestdest.info Travel Guide" and "www.bgdestination.info Travel Guide"
 
 
 
3 days ago I thanked [[User_talk:Dajamer|Dajamer]] for his "'''very''' prompt action in restoring <u>almost</u> the same version of ''multiple'' pages after they were [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?limit=50&tagFilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Dajamer&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2012&month=10 recently vandalised] (but pointing out that "I wrote "<u>almost</u>" restored because in each of the many cases that I have examined - and although your helpful edit summary was invariably along the lines of: "Undo revision 1940994 by ''Trynew''" - you actually did '''more''' than just a simple "undo", You added, in contravention of [[XL|our external links policy]], a series of [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Malta&action=historysubmit&diff=1941063&oldid=1937154 artfully tailored links] to "www.bestdest.info Travel Guide" and "www.bgdestination.info Travel Guide"" and I specifically asked Dajamer
 
"Please would you now agree to stop this ?"
 
 
 
So far, I have had no response from Dajamer. (Dajamer has, however, subsequently made 2 legitimate edits). --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 05:24, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:Good eye! I'd keep an eye out in case they're just trying to get in our good graces. If it continues, blocking would be in order.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 14:46, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
== [[User:OVK]] ==
 
 
 
User seems to join WT recently. I'm wondering why he granted admin-ship so fastly even without any nomination? [[Special:Contributions/115.167.118.250|115.167.118.250]] 13:53, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:Is this a mistake?
 
:( http://wikitravel.org/fi/K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4:OVK ) --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 17:03, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
::This is a user native in FI and SV, who is patrolling on EN before helping with the administration of those sites. He is a trusted user on other sites. Please extend a welcome -- as you know, we can use the help.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 17:37, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:::What is his user name on those other sites, please? --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 17:43, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Stemma da cancellare ==
 
Ciao, ti dovrei gentilmente chiedere un piacere. Potresti per favore cancellare lo stemma che tempo fa avevo inserito (dato che non c'è la licenza)? L'immagine è questa http://wikitravel.org/it/File:ProvinciaMonza-Stemma.gif Grazie mille. --[[User:Simonemb|Simonemb]] [[User talk:Simonemb|talk]] 23:11, 19 October 2012 (CEST)
 
 
 
:(I think he is asking you to remove the unlicensed image file he uploaded and references with the URL) --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 17:56, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
::W.Frank Yes, you're understand :-) ... Please can you delete for me the coat of arms, of that url, that I had uploaded? Because there isn't a license. Thank you very much. I'm sorry! --[[User:Simonemb|Simonemb]] [[User talk:Simonemb|talk]] 01:24, 20 October 2012 (CEST)
 
 
 
:::Finito.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 19:24, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
:::: Ok grazie mille! --[[User:Simonemb|Simonemb]] [[User talk:Simonemb|talk]]  11:47, 20 October 2012 (CEST)
 
 
 
==[[Hatma City]]?==
 
I have asked all my Indonesian friends and they have never heard of such a place.
 
 
 
Is this a joke? --[[Special:Contributions/203.117.33.6|203.117.33.6]] 06:37, 22 October 2012 (EDT) --<small>Singapore</small>[[User:Alice|<b><font color="#0000DD">A</font><font color="#0066FF">l</font><font color="#0099FF">i</font><font color="#00CCFF">c</font><font color="#00EEFF">e</font></b>]][[Special:Emailuser/Singapore.Alice|<font color="#FF3333"><sup>✉</sup></font>]] 06:40, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
== More administrators ==
 
 
 
I have been trying to remove the second duplicated section of "Other airports" in our [[Philippines]] article but keep getting the error message: ''"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Pridurok3"''
 
 
 
I accidentally duplicated this section myself and now I can not correct it since there are no admins that work duing an american weekend.
 
 
 
Please promote some people in different timezones. --[[User:Alice|<small>Singapore</small><b><font color="#0000DD">A</font><font color="#0066FF">l</font><font color="#0099FF">i</font><font color="#00CCFF">c</font><font color="#00EEFF">e</font></b>]][[Special:Emailuser/Singapore.Alice|<font color="#FF3333"><sup>✉</sup></font>]] 06:11, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
::Now I can't delete all the spam links on this spammer's page: [[User:64vx00125os]].
 
 
 
::I get this error message: ''"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: New users should not blank pages".'' Don't you want me to help fight spam? --[[User:Alice|<small>Singapore</small><b><font color="#0000DD">A</font><font color="#0066FF">l</font><font color="#0099FF">i</font><font color="#00CCFF">c</font><font color="#00EEFF">e</font></b>]][[Special:Emailuser/Singapore.Alice|<font color="#FF3333"><sup>✉</sup></font>]] 07:01, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
 
 
 
:::We're adding more admins but it is a slow process to build community; we want to be sure everyone is capable and trustworthy to handle such responsibilities.
 
 
 
:::Meanwhile, I have deleted the user page you alerted us to, and it appears you have taken care of the airports section.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 13:22, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
 
  
==Confusing section title: ''Get out''==
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==Your edits to Chicago==
Not surprisingly when we have a section title called '''Get in''' to describe how to travel ''to'' a destination, a lot of genuinely ignorant people (yourself included) often (wrongly) assume that they should add information on how to ''leave'' a travel article destination to our (currently confusingly named) '''Get out''' sections. (Confusingly, this section is actually intended to be where suggestions for where travellers should go next are made.)
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Your edits to Chicago were not good and had to be reverted.  The south suburbs area east of Cicero Avenue is far more violent than you think, and some areas, especially around Harvey, Ford Heights, and Sauk Village really are nearly as dangerous as East St. Louis.  Plus, there is a group of gangster run clubs in the south suburbs area that love to lure innocent people in by advertising themselves all over the Internet and even on billboards.  Every day and night, people get shot, murdered, robbed, car jacked, and left for dead in the parking lots of those clubs, and no tourist should ever have to face that.  Wikitravel is supposed to provide information on travel without putting people in harm's way.  Don't vandalize Wikitravel again. [[User:Conserve|Conserve]] ([[User talk:Conserve|talk]]) 19:22, 11 November 2014 (EST)
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:It's understood that you feel strongly about this. That said, do not revert edits by administrators without discussion. We are always available to chat. I have suspended your account due to your attitude and comments in the edits. Tomorrow you can return to editing, but be advised to be more communicative and seeking consensus before you make such changes. Your Chicago warning box is insensitive and bordering on offensive. The current box, as I edited it, is more than adequate to the task. Thank you, [[User:IBobi|IBobi]] ([[User talk:IBobi|talk]]) 19:29, 11 November 2014 (EST)
  
This causes a HUGE amount of unnecessary work for the few people currently copy-editing Wikitravel articles in correcting the (entirely natural and avoidable) mistakes of casual and well-intentioned editors.
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==GLBT info==
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Since you make so very few substantive textual edits to our guides and in the context of our [[Wikitravel:Information for gay and lesbian travellers]] policy and the lack of an edit summary, why did you make [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=S%C3%A3o_Paulo/Paulista&diff=prev&oldid=2263540 this São Paulo edit], please?
  
For this reason alone, your response to this question:
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Was it because the information was factually incorrect?--[[User:Ttcf|Ttcf]] ([[User talk:Ttcf|talk]]) 19:02, 24 November 2014 (EST)
http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Wikitravel_talk%3AArticle_templates&action=historysubmit&diff=1944125&oldid=1944086
 
  
is long overdue, Sir. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 21:43, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
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:Since "gay" is not a cuisine type, and there is no such thing as a gay restaurant, this seemed like a LGBT-unfriendly remark.[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] ([[User talk:IBobi|talk]]) 19:05, 24 November 2014 (EST)
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::We may both be barking up the wrong tree. Perhaps the original editor was using the meaning of the word ''gay'' current before the sixties and describing the restaurant's ambience as: "''Light-hearted and carefree; Brightly coloured; showy or showing a merry, lively mood''" rather than the clientèle that it specifically catered for. Remember that many editors and readers of WT don't have English as their mother tongue... --[[User:Ttcf|Ttcf]] ([[User talk:Ttcf|talk]]) 19:49, 24 November 2014 (EST)
  
:Please would you favour me with an answer to this question above? --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 15:45, 6 November 2012 (EST)
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::Safe>sorry.[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] ([[User talk:IBobi|talk]]) 20:05, 24 November 2014 (EST)
  
::See discussion page regarding using "Nearby". We'll change as soon as we can. Has a lot of support from current WTers.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 15:49, 6 November 2012 (EST)
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Sorry to bother you but this guy [[User talk:64.121.83.151]] has vandalized the Texas article and has posted some very inaccurate information on the GLBT section on the Texas article several times already. I edited it a few times already before finally just deleting it altogether since it just seems to attract trolls and vandals. Is there anyway you can ban this guy or something? He just seems to cause trouble. Thanks for your help. [[User:Diablo234|Diablo234]] ([[User talk:Diablo234|talk]]) 17:23, 9 September 2015 (CST)
  
==CAPTCHA ineffectiveness==
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Anyways if you or any of the other admins would personally want to revise and rewrite the LGBT section in the Texas article I would be more than happy enough to provide you with any links to outside sources in order to assist you guys. Thanks. ([[User:Diablo234|Diablo234]] ([[User talk:Diablo234|talk]]) 21:20, 10 September 2015 (EDT))
Unfortunately [http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/377590/time-to-kill-off-captcha this article does not provide a solution to our problems with robotic spam] but you may, nevertheless, be interested to read it. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 15:45, 6 November 2012 (EST)
 
  
:Yeah, Captcha stinks. Recaptcha is worse, because it's genuinely hard to read. The good news is, Wikitravel is pretty much spam-free, thanks to the efforts of all concerned.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 15:50, 6 November 2012 (EST)
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:Hi Diablo. First, please use a colon : to indent your discussion posts so they are easy to read. Second, thank you for your continued attention to this. But please don't edit war -- and my user talk page is not the place for this discussion. As IBcaldera pointed out, please have it at the talk page for Texas. [[User:IBobi|IBobi]] ([[User talk:IBobi|talk]]) 21:43, 10 September 2015 (EDT)
::Spam free?!?
 
::You're deluding yourself. Just because I've stopped editing until you make a decision about appointing more (new?) janitors, doesn't mean I've stopped reading recent changes every 8 hours. --[[User:W. Frank|W.&nbsp;'''Frank''']]<sup>[[Special:EmailUser/W. Frank|<font color="green">e-mail</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:W. Frank|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</sub> 16:36, 6 November 2012 (EST)
 
:::There is certainly spam that gets posted. There's no way to stop that and keep the site open for all to edit. But every bit of it is being deleted, and all the spammers and IP addresses are being blocked. Filters do some of the work. But for the most part we just have very very good human response here at Wikitravel.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 17:20, 6 November 2012 (EST)
 
  
== [[Mordor]] ==
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==Abuse Filter Suggestion==
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Hi! I have used Wikitravel successfully for many trips, great site. I run my own wiki and have some suggestions for abuse filter configuration -- looking through your recent changes, it seems like we have been dealing with similar spambots. Please add google's popular email address domain to my user name (following an at sign) and we can discuss offline (don't want to publish our strategy online). (intentionally not signing) 2014-12-04 8:30AM
  
Hi Paul,
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== 【ja:mobile view】 bug report and request ==
  
i have seen that you unprotected Mordor and that you removed the merge tag. It is one of our funniest fools day articles and i would like to keep it in the original sense. It's some insider humour within and i always laugh when i pass by. Please take no offense, when i protect and revert your last edit. Thanks in advance, [[User:Jc8136|Jc8136]] 05:29, 9 November 2012 (EST)
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Dear IBobi, I found a bug in the Mobile view mode, and reports.
  
== What the heck? ==
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;bug1.
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In mobile mode(android browser), Pasted image does not appear in the template(Template:Miru, Asobu...).
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<gallery>
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File:20160328 bugreport 01.png|Mobile view mode (not show Image)
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File:20160328 bugreport 02.png|PC view mode (show Image)
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</gallery>
  
Why did you protect my userpage and remove my administrator access?  This is completely contrary to community policy. [[User:LtPowers|LtPowers]] 08:20, 4 December 2012 (EST)
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;bug2.
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In mobile mode(android browser), It does not switch the "PC view mode" from the "Mobile view mode".
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<gallery>
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File:20160328 bugreport 03.png|Click "デスクトップ(switch PC view mode)", not switch "PC view mode".
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</gallery>
  
:We'll definitely look into that for you. We take violations of policy seriously here at the #1 travel wiki in the world, and if one of our admins has done something against policy we'll make sure it is brought to their attention. And if they deny it and it's obvious that they did in fact do it, we'll take action against them. This community does not attempt to sweep such investigations under the rug, or justify bad behavior on a technicality, or compromise our integrity through a mob mentality. I will personally get back to you! Thanks for bringing this to our attention, --[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] 16:29, 4 December 2012 (EST)
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;request
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File:20160328 requestSystem.png
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Please add menu "Recent changes(最近の更新)" in mobile view modes side menu..
  
::Actually, Paul, it was you. So drop the sarcasm and trying leveling with me for a change. Even if you can justify removing my administrator access, how do you justify locking down my user page?  [[User:LtPowers|LtPowers]] 13:23, 5 December 2012 (EST
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;Spec.
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OS is "Android 5.0.2", Using browser of mobile phone is "Boat browser".
  
:: Also, you attempted to sweep this under the rug by deleting LtPowers' question. I reverted. ''Then'' you make pompous & obviously false claims about policies you have repeatedly violated. Gimme a break! [[User:Pashley|Pashley]] 14:34, 5 December 2012 (EST)
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Since English is not good, I'm sorry I can not be described in detail.--[[User:Kentagon|Kentagon]] ([[User talk:Kentagon|talk]]) 08:15, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
  
:::I'll look into it for you. I'd hate for you to be locked out of even being able to discuss things on your own talk page. That doesn't sound fair at all. I'm sure you're not a "disruptive" presence. If you like, I can discuss things with my fellow admins & we'll come to some sort of reasonable solution to allow you to continue to post freely, on those rare occasions when you come to Wikitravel?--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] 14:49, 5 December 2012 (EST)
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== Note ==
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Hi! I noticed your userpage at Romanian Wikitravel. That's a bad Romanian translation you used there. I'll correct it. Hope you won't mind. Regards, [[User:Wintereu|Wintereu]] ([[User talk:Wintereu|talk]]) 17:26, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
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: Done. [[User:Wintereu|Wintereu]] ([[User talk:Wintereu|talk]]) 17:45, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
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::Thank you![[User:IBobi|IBobi]] ([[User talk:IBobi|talk]]) 17:55, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
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::: You're welcome. I must say that, so far, at the Romanian Wikitravel I haven't seen any additional benefits of contributing or even have admin rights there, instead of other similar (more or less) projects. Anyway, glad that I could help. Have a good day! [[User:Wintereu|Wintereu]] ([[User talk:Wintereu|talk]]) 02:26, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
  
== Help needed ==
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== Obvious advertisement  ==
  
Hi I was trying to edit my user page and got the following;
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Hello there,
This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Salem's Lot.
 
How do I overcome this problem?
 
Thanks [[User:IBdick|IBdick]] 14:53, 5 December 2012 (EST)
 
  
:Couple of things:
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I am contacting you after having read the page about Mesr, a village in Central desert of Iran (https://wikitravel.org/en/Mesr).
:1. I know you've been having trouble with the, ahem, gentlemen over at the World's Least Relevant Travel Website (starts with "Wiki," ends with "-oyage") due to your username. They don't like anything that starts with IB over there, because of massive sour grapes about their copycat site getting exactly zero visitors outside of their 40 admins. We've been here 9 years, they've been around for... 9 days or so. Give them 9 years, they may get a couple thousand people to visit them over the course of a month (we get 250,000 a day here). "Peter" is a particular offender -- he was de-sysopped over here for abusing his admin privileges and acting up without community/policy consent in much the same way that he's doing over there. The other admins are afraid of him, but even if their wiki sticks around for a while, I don't expect he'll last long as an admin under the Wikimedia Foundation; they tend to take megalomania pretty seriously over yonder ;)
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It is obvious that this page has been created by a hotel/café to sneakingly advertise their business. They even advertise prices, give a phone number etc. The reader is clearly cheated as the page is supposed to give information about Mesr itself but at the end it is an obvious advertisement for their place. From what I understood from your guidelines, this is not permitted. Can you do something? Many thanks
:2. Good luck with your article -- what's it about?
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: Hi there! I'm one of the admins on Wikitravel and thanks for reaching out to us. We took a look at the [[Mesr]] page and found most of the contributions to be informative with the reader in mind. However, we did notice a small snippet that shows the obvious advertising you mentioned. We decided to take down that part as it is not listed in the template. Please feel free to reach out on my [https://wikitravel.org/en/User_talk:IB_hill talk page] if you have any more questions. Thanks! [[User:IB hill|IB hill]] ([[User talk:IB hill|talk]]) 10:26, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
:3. Here at the World's Premier Travel Wiki, Wikitravel, we're run by a company called Internet Brands that operates hundreds of community-driven sites like this one. [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:How_to_create_a_user_account#Username All our internal accounts start with "IB" so people can tell who we are.] I'm sorry but I'll have to ask you to choose a username that doesn't start with "IB". It can be virtually anything else. Just let me know what you'd like to change it to & I'll take care of it for you.
 
:4. Please, [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Plunge_forward plunge forward] and begin doing some travel writing/editing here. It's an amazing site!
 
:5. [http://wikitravel.org/en/User:IBdick Welcome!]
 
--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] 22:37, 5 December 2012 (EST)
 

Latest revision as of 14:30, 16 October 2018

Archived discussions

Would like to help you further...[edit]

Bonjour Paul, I have subscribed to the English, French and Dutch version of Wikitravel, it feels exciting and I hope I can be helpful here and there... :) Porteplume

Hey! So exciting to see you here Viviane! We look forward to seeing you on FR and NL as well, since I know you are a multilingual expert. And of course we look forward to your photos :) Welcome!!--IBobi (talk) 13:53, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

Sitenotice on zh:[edit]

Hi IBobi, could you change the sitenotice on zh:? It's really out of date. You can just change it to 歡迎來到維客旅行! which means Welcome to Wikitravel! Thanks! sumone10154(talk) 20:39, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

Hey there -- we're going to be changing to notices next week to something more timely/announcey! We'll have a good one up for ZH then too ;) --IBobi talk email 19:25, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
Ok, how are you going to translate the notices? Please don't use a machine translation like you did for your userpages; they tend to do a very poor job, and those translations are sometimes barely understandable (especially for zh:). sumone10154(talk) 21:57, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
We'll go through a Chinese admin.--IBobi talk email 05:32, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
There are currently no active admins on zh: (or on most language versions). sumone10154(talk) 14:29, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
By the way, I can help with translation for fr: if you'd like (I would help for zh: too, but I don't speak Chinese very well). sumone10154(talk) 14:33, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
Excellent! I'll let you know when we have it. As for ZH, that is about to change, much for the better ;) --IBobi talk email 14:38, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
So one week has passed already, and you have not changed the sitenotices. Could you just remove the one on zh: for now? You could replace it with the message I posted here (歡迎來到維客旅行!), or just replace it with a dash symbol - to blank it like the one on the French sitenotice; it doesn't matter, as long as you change it so it's not 3 years out of date. Thanks. sumone10154(talk) 14:44, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
We're still working on one. Really, we'll try to have it updated this week on several languages including ZH :) --IBobi talk email 15:12, 16 October 2012 (EDT)

Sitenotice on ja: again[edit]

Hi. It has past almost one and half month since I posted this request and it has not yet progressed at all.

If you are unable to do it, bring us back the right to edit the sitenotice, please. It is quite as easy as pie for us ja: admins.--Shoestring 07:38, 14 October 2012 (EDT)

See above -- we'll have it done soon I promise -- it's a multi-language effort now, not just ja and ZH :) --IBobi talk email 15:13, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
Hi Shoestring -- would you be willing to translate a short sitenotice for us, which we will put up on JA? Basically it is a call for more contributions, and for active users to potentially be admins. I know you have a great deal of experience on JA, and the language version is in excellent shape thanks to you and the other active members there, so we want to be sure you have whatevwer support you need. IBAlex will be in touch with you soon. Thank you,--IBobi talk email 19:43, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
Hi. Well, I am a bit busy these days, and I did not check this page, actually.
If you finish making the short message you mentioned above, or other messages which you want to notice for ja: users, post them on my ja: talk page, please. I think I can translate them into Japanese and leave them on the ja: traveler's pub, if necessary.--Shoestring 08:21, 25 October 2012 (EDT)
The Sitenotice was changed today. Please have a look. Is it fine right now? Cheers! IBAlex 20:21, 28 November 2012 (EST)

Test edits[edit]

Can these test edits be removed now, please?

I removed it. Thanks! IBAlex (talk) 12:43, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
Thank you. I would like to think that these tests include planning to have external links shown in our recommended style (ie linked to the name of the listing) rather than continuing to produce those meaninglessly incrementing, footnote style, little numbers... --Ttcf (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
Please would you favour me with a response. --Ttcf (talk) 18:51, 24 November 2014 (EST)

Your edits to Chicago[edit]

Your edits to Chicago were not good and had to be reverted. The south suburbs area east of Cicero Avenue is far more violent than you think, and some areas, especially around Harvey, Ford Heights, and Sauk Village really are nearly as dangerous as East St. Louis. Plus, there is a group of gangster run clubs in the south suburbs area that love to lure innocent people in by advertising themselves all over the Internet and even on billboards. Every day and night, people get shot, murdered, robbed, car jacked, and left for dead in the parking lots of those clubs, and no tourist should ever have to face that. Wikitravel is supposed to provide information on travel without putting people in harm's way. Don't vandalize Wikitravel again. Conserve (talk) 19:22, 11 November 2014 (EST)

It's understood that you feel strongly about this. That said, do not revert edits by administrators without discussion. We are always available to chat. I have suspended your account due to your attitude and comments in the edits. Tomorrow you can return to editing, but be advised to be more communicative and seeking consensus before you make such changes. Your Chicago warning box is insensitive and bordering on offensive. The current box, as I edited it, is more than adequate to the task. Thank you, IBobi (talk) 19:29, 11 November 2014 (EST)

GLBT info[edit]

Since you make so very few substantive textual edits to our guides and in the context of our Wikitravel:Information for gay and lesbian travellers policy and the lack of an edit summary, why did you make this São Paulo edit, please?

Was it because the information was factually incorrect?--Ttcf (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2014 (EST)

Since "gay" is not a cuisine type, and there is no such thing as a gay restaurant, this seemed like a LGBT-unfriendly remark.IBobi (talk) 19:05, 24 November 2014 (EST)
We may both be barking up the wrong tree. Perhaps the original editor was using the meaning of the word gay current before the sixties and describing the restaurant's ambience as: "Light-hearted and carefree; Brightly coloured; showy or showing a merry, lively mood" rather than the clientèle that it specifically catered for. Remember that many editors and readers of WT don't have English as their mother tongue... --Ttcf (talk) 19:49, 24 November 2014 (EST)
Safe>sorry.IBobi (talk) 20:05, 24 November 2014 (EST)

Sorry to bother you but this guy User talk:64.121.83.151 has vandalized the Texas article and has posted some very inaccurate information on the GLBT section on the Texas article several times already. I edited it a few times already before finally just deleting it altogether since it just seems to attract trolls and vandals. Is there anyway you can ban this guy or something? He just seems to cause trouble. Thanks for your help. Diablo234 (talk) 17:23, 9 September 2015 (CST)

Anyways if you or any of the other admins would personally want to revise and rewrite the LGBT section in the Texas article I would be more than happy enough to provide you with any links to outside sources in order to assist you guys. Thanks. (Diablo234 (talk) 21:20, 10 September 2015 (EDT))

Hi Diablo. First, please use a colon : to indent your discussion posts so they are easy to read. Second, thank you for your continued attention to this. But please don't edit war -- and my user talk page is not the place for this discussion. As IBcaldera pointed out, please have it at the talk page for Texas. IBobi (talk) 21:43, 10 September 2015 (EDT)

Abuse Filter Suggestion[edit]

Hi! I have used Wikitravel successfully for many trips, great site. I run my own wiki and have some suggestions for abuse filter configuration -- looking through your recent changes, it seems like we have been dealing with similar spambots. Please add google's popular email address domain to my user name (following an at sign) and we can discuss offline (don't want to publish our strategy online). (intentionally not signing) 2014-12-04 8:30AM

【ja:mobile view】 bug report and request[edit]

Dear IBobi, I found a bug in the Mobile view mode, and reports.

bug1.

In mobile mode(android browser), Pasted image does not appear in the template(Template:Miru, Asobu...).

bug2.

In mobile mode(android browser), It does not switch the "PC view mode" from the "Mobile view mode".

request

Please add menu "Recent changes(最近の更新)" in mobile view modes side menu..

Spec.

OS is "Android 5.0.2", Using browser of mobile phone is "Boat browser".

Since English is not good, I'm sorry I can not be described in detail.--Kentagon (talk) 08:15, 28 March 2016 (EDT)

Note[edit]

Hi! I noticed your userpage at Romanian Wikitravel. That's a bad Romanian translation you used there. I'll correct it. Hope you won't mind. Regards, Wintereu (talk) 17:26, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

Done. Wintereu (talk) 17:45, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
Thank you!IBobi (talk) 17:55, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
You're welcome. I must say that, so far, at the Romanian Wikitravel I haven't seen any additional benefits of contributing or even have admin rights there, instead of other similar (more or less) projects. Anyway, glad that I could help. Have a good day! Wintereu (talk) 02:26, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

Obvious advertisement[edit]

Hello there,

I am contacting you after having read the page about Mesr, a village in Central desert of Iran (https://wikitravel.org/en/Mesr). It is obvious that this page has been created by a hotel/café to sneakingly advertise their business. They even advertise prices, give a phone number etc. The reader is clearly cheated as the page is supposed to give information about Mesr itself but at the end it is an obvious advertisement for their place. From what I understood from your guidelines, this is not permitted. Can you do something? Many thanks

Hi there! I'm one of the admins on Wikitravel and thanks for reaching out to us. We took a look at the Mesr page and found most of the contributions to be informative with the reader in mind. However, we did notice a small snippet that shows the obvious advertising you mentioned. We decided to take down that part as it is not listed in the template. Please feel free to reach out on my talk page if you have any more questions. Thanks! IB hill (talk) 10:26, 16 October 2018 (EDT)