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Hello Huttite! Welcome to Wikitravel. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Wikitravel:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

BTW, may I suggest you also take a look at our Wikitravel:Main Page policy. When we add a new link we place it as the first in the section and we remove the last one. There is no need to order anything by size. We also limit the number of links per section to about 4-5. Thanks! DhDh 06:22, 14 Feb 2004 (EST)

  • Call it a newbie error - I didn't see the policy, so just added one link - I didn't know what to take off, so left all the others there - and hoped someone would correct me if I was wrong....

Bold terms

So, I noticed that you've been bolding the first mention of the subject of a page on the page. I don't have any problem with this, but it's not in our manual of style. I'm trying to figure out if it should be.

I know it's the standard on Wikipedia, but I have no idea why. Do you? --Evan 10:46, 11 Mar 2004 (EST)

'Scuse butting in but I know you raised this in the pub too. According to Wikipedia's, "This makes it easier for the casual reader to identify the topic, especially when the text is copied to a different context." I wonder if it also has something to do with self links ( which automatically appear as bold in Wikipedia.

I must admit I have been following the practice, assuming it was Wikitravel style but I guess I've spent too long in Wikipedia. Nurg 01:19, 12 Mar 2004 (EST)

In many respects, my use of Bold terms is a carry-over from WikiPedia too. Mind you it is a bit of a decorative thing that has been used in many books too. However, I think it also looks professional as well as just being nice and decorative. I wouldn't like to use it a lot, just the first mention, though later on putting the subject in italics also adds an extra touch. The bold terms allows the reader to quickly identify what the article is about. Have a look at the Surfers Paradise article - where the name first appears a couple of sentences in - before and after bolding and tell me which version you like better.
BTW - The other reason I am bolding these articles is that many show as dead end pages when they have links on them (I think this is a bug or database corruption). So bolding is a minor edit that can justify editing the page and fix the dead end paging at the same time. Huttite 03:34, 12 Mar 2004 (EST)
Oh, yeah, thanks. You're absolutely right: when we had a db crash a couple of weeks ago, I had problems rebuilding the links table. I need to figure that out.
So, I think the main thing I want to make sure of is that it works well with our manual of style. We use boldface to call out important topics (like we use italics for emphasis). I think highlighting the first mention of the topic of a page is an OK example of that. --Evan 11:19, 12 Mar 2004 (EST)

Admin nomination

Huttite, I've just nominated you for admin status. Please have a look at Wikitravel:Administrator nominations. Dhum Dhum Akubra 11:03, 24 Mar 2004 (EST)

Huttite, thanks for replying in such an honest way to your nomination. It shows that you are sincere and that you take Wikitravel seriously (in case someone else didn't notice that already :-) Anyways, whenever you do feel ready for an administrator role, feel free to let us know on the nominations page. In the meantime, I'll be glad to collaborate/discuss further with you on Wikitravel. Dhum Dhum Akubra 11:45, 25 Mar 2004 (EST)


Thanks for adding the Wikitravel:How to redirect a page, I was just about to request that as I was getting frustrated with always doing it wrong! Thanks Majnoona 17:43, 28 Mar 2004 (EST)


I just wanted to take a second and say thanks for the incredible job you've been doing on Wikitravel. I'm really amazed and glad that this project has such good people as yourself doing such hard work. --Evan 21:45, 11 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Thanks for the comments about the Mount Kinabalu page - I've now added more info. --Dzof 14:31, 18 Apr 2004 (EDT)~

Thanks for your anti-vandalism work! Keep it up! --SouthBayJohn


I dunno who came up with that term, but I really like it.

It in the edit log somewhere I think. Fitting term too - Factbook + ectomy (from greek tome - a cutting) => Cut down or cut out Factbook. -- Huttite 05:10, 27 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Anyways, I really appreciate you've been doing so much de-factbookization. I think it's great. My only concern is that we seem to be leaving in a lot of the "database"-style definitions. I don't think we need them; usually, they're replicated in prose on the page.

How would you feel about taking out the definition lists, too? Just, y'know, killing 'em altogether, and leaving in the factbook pages on a talk subpage for reference? I know that some of the definitions have worthwhile info, but I don't think the definition list is really the best style. --Evan 14:35, 25 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Its an area I felt needed attention. I added a page to keep track of all the Factbooks that need an Factbookectomy as I found it frustrating that so few had been done according to the suggestions. Also the article about editing factbooks may need a few more words as I think I know the factbook items that should be kept and how to integrate them. -- Huttite 05:10, 27 Apr 2004 (EDT)


Thanks for the help on "Pittsburgh". Between you and Evan I am beginning to understand the process better. Hopefully this won't be dangerous! I had incorrectly assumed that a link created for the first time on one page would "automatically" be disambiguated by the software. Not sure why it doesn't but now that I know I won't make the same mistake again. William M Goetsch 09:09, 30 Apr 2004 (EDT)

The beauty of a wiki is that if you do not know how to handle it, someone else probably does know and can help you. -- Huttite 02:53, 1 May 2004 (EDT)


Thanks for commenting on some of the stuff I've been doing and giving advice. Sometimes I think I don't think right, and need to be straightened out :-). The fact that people double check my work makes me feel a lot better about trying. Thanks! -- Colin 14:14, 8 May 2004 (EDT)

(My Summary: attached to the above change was bogus thanks to form auto-fill. Argh. Meant to just say Thanks. It's a useful feature, most of the time. -- Colin 14:16, 8 May 2004 (EDT))


So, would you mind if I renominate you for admin status? I've been greatly impressed by your excellent good-citizenship, and I think you'd make a good administrator.

I'm a little torn, though -- your great work so far shows how much responsibility and participation can happen without admin status. You make a great posterboy for how any Wikitraveller can "administer" this site without any special extras. --Evan 14:12, 18 May 2004 (EDT)

Unpacking URLs

Moved to Wikitravel talk:External links -- Huttite 00:29, 22 May 2004 (EDT)

No apology needed

See Wikitravel talk:External links --Nzpcmad 04:26, 22 May 2004 (EDT)


So, I have to admit that I haven't been following that closely on the de-factbooking process. I was pretty surprised to see so many pages with a mix of factbook and non-factbook info on them.

I guess I expected the pages to be a lot more bare. But, instead, there's lots of factbook definition-style stuff in there.

Can we talk about this on Wikitravel talk:How to de-factbook a country page? --Evan 20:52, 17 Jun 2004 (EDT)

  • Sure can. Will respond there. -- Huttite 23:22, 18 Jun 2004 (EDT)

You're Back!

Yay! Huttite is back! -- Colin 15:10, 8 Sep 2004 (EDT)

  • Have recently been very busy with work (getting on top of an expanded job) and also had some personal stuff to deal with, so had to ease off here to cope with the overload. I didn't go away, just was not active - I still visited (occasionally) but did not do any edits. Hopefully I can spend a bit more time here again as my work/life balance moves back into an equilibrium again. -- Huttite 05:13, 9 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Thanks for being a good welcome committee!

I've been travelling and now I'm back to a huge pile of work-- thanks for keeping up on all the welcomes! I think first-impressions of the community are really important... Majnoona

Images and copyright

Alright, thanks for the advice. has licenced its images under a creative commons licence that grants permission for use with attribution, without requiring permission. This is entirely separate from normal fair use rights. Tlogmer

This reply posted on Tlogmer talk page:

I am not objecting to the licencing of the images, just the fact that the licence to copy was not stated or indicated anywhere. Because some people can be upset by their copyrighted images being stolen the right to copy needs to be explicitly stated for WikiTravel images. It was the lack of a statement I had a problem with. Huttite 22:31, 15 Oct 2004 (EDT)


I've lived in Ann Arbor my entire life (delivered pizza for a few years, so I know the area better even than most residents), and the content of those ads bordered on the absurd. They are not helpful for the traveller, and they ruin the credibility of wikitravel for ann arborites who look up their hometown out of curiosity. If I'm not allowed to label them as the obvious marketing they are (and why not? one of the listed Non-Goals is advertising), can I at least trim back their language into something approaching reality? Tlogmer

(Clarification: What galls is how nonrepresentative the ads are, more than how factually inaccurate -- the page isn't just a collection of disparate facts; someone browsing the site will form a picture of the city from what things are listed and how much space they get. Wiard's Orchard does not deserve a long paragraph. It's not even in the city, and it's just a bloody orchard (one of several in the region, if it matters). There are hundreds of better things to put there, and while I don't have time to put them all there myself, I thought I could at least make clear that much of the page has nothing to do with most of what a visitor will experience (or want to).

Replys to the Ann Arbor talk page:

wiki quickbar

Do we have any special wiki tag/Template to clean up pre-existing HTML quickbar on country pages

Otherwise I am ready to write a template like (It is used at )

~ Bijee 11:32, 1 Nov 2004 (EST)

No, see Wikitravel:Using Mediawiki templates and Wikitravel talk:Using Mediawiki templates for the reasons Wikitravel is not using Template:* namespace articles for content. -- Huttite 16:54, 2 Jan 2005 (EST)

Galveston 500 Error

Did Evan get back to you about the 500 error, it seems like the Galveston page was not the only one that was doing that. Texaswebscout

Not yet. He has not been on-line recently. -- Huttite 04:35, 3 Jan 2005 (EST)
That was a good idea about using the Galveston, Texas page, but it does not work either. I think that an admin is going to have to delete both pages. Then we can recreate both, I will copy all the information off of the original page and save it to be pasted when an admin does do that.--Texas Web Scout 09:16, 6 Jan 2005 (EST)
The page I created was Galveston (Texas), Evan cannot fix Galveston or Galveston, Texas until next week - see Wikitravel:Bug reports 1.3.5#Galveston Broken - Huttite 15:28, 6 Jan 2005 (EST)

If you're going to be around for a while..

Can you keep an eye on and the main page? I have to go to bed. -- Mark 20:17, 4 Jan 2005 (EST)

I'm on holiday, its raining, I can't paint my deck (as it's wet), my modem didn't work this morning (5 hours ago), Slash-dot hit us yesterday and now we have spammers. Joy, Joy, Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy, Joy - I need to work off the aggression somehow, as I have another 8 hours before I would even think about going to bed!!!! -- Huttite 20:39, 4 Jan 2005 (EST)


The Canadian Dollar is known as a "loonie" after the bird printed on the dollar coin. I'm not sure it's infobox material, but it's not really graffiti. -- Colin 16:40, 6 Jan 2005 (EST)

Se question on Talk:Canada -- Huttite 16:47, 6 Jan 2005 (EST)

Alternate name redirects

Hi, Thanks for your kind words. Please see my answer/question on my User_talk. In short -- how far should we proceed with adding Alternate name redirects... -- JanSlupski 18:13, 12 Jan 2005 (EST)

Las Vegas

I suggested to User:Mbstone

If you do have websites that you believe are important for the traveller to consult before visiting Las Vegas please discuss these on the the article talk page, so your reasons can be understood. Merely adding them back into the External links invites their removal. There could be better places to put them that are better associated with the website content. -- Huttite 20:59, 21 Jan 2005 (EST)


I didn't realize or expect that my adding extranl likns was being reverted, I thought it was that Evan was editing the page at the same time as I. mbstone 01:50, 24 Jan 2005 (EST)
Please see External links to understand what is happening. -- Huttite 02:02, 24 Jan 2005 (EST)


2005-02-01-05: Dionysios responds to Huttite's 2004-12-31-04 172500 page: Thank you; its good to be part of Wikitravel; and Dionysios appreciates your many contributions to Wikitravel and your noticing his modest efforts. are Kankakee Public Library public computers at which he sometimes works. Dionysios could be, but is not necessarily, Dionysios did write Kankakee and some other pages before registering; and he hopes to do more on Kankakee and for Wikitravel soon.


Please stop this: you're creating the mess with Baltic, confusing Eastern/Northern Europe and the Baltics ... Wojsyl 17:14, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

I see the Baltic countries as a legitimate region in Europe. Quite how they are shoehorned into the larger articles of Eastern Europe, Central Europe and Northern Europe is something that has to be worked out. The Baltic is a body of water that touches on all those articles so should refer to all of them. I do not see it as a confusion but a clarification. -- Huttite 17:36, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)
Agree, but instead of putting the Baltic countries to Northern Europe please read Talk:Europe/Hierarchy#Proposed_solution first, where apparently a consensus has been finally reached on general division of Europe. Wojsyl 17:46, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

Stay safe

Concerning the statement:

Also everyone should avoid the beach area to the west of the old dock that juts out to sea from the end of Avenida Republica. The east side, including Barrio Isla, is safer.'

What is the danger to avoid? Drowning? Rips? Sharp rocks or coral reef and big waves popular with surfers? Crime? Sharks? Poisonous or venomous shellfish? Pollution? - One mans meat is another mans poison. -- Huttite 18:29, 23 Jan 2005 (EST)

The area (el hoyo)is ruled by a local and heavily armed gang, and they sell crack cocaine from there. As a foreigner no one has any reason to go there, as one is in danger of being robbed or murdered for being a white person there. This is not anyone's meat except those with a suicidal nature. Sure, if your meat is buying crack, you speak good Spanish and you like a lot of excitement go for it. Watch out for the police on your way out. I honestly don't think this the type of person who would read this site. You would have to know exactly what you were doing to go to the hoyo, whereas this page is aimed at people who don't know La Ceiba, and this section is aimed at the ignorant who enter that area unknowingly, thinking ooh let's go to the beach. User:Squeakfox.

Lop Buri

Thanks for the update, I had added Lop Buri from the Thailand/Central Plains page - but didn't know I needed to put a 'back-link' on the page.

Carnival Elation

So I've initiated a discussion in Talk:Carnival Elation regading whether this experiment is working out. Perhaps you might like to comment there. -- Colin 19:27, 27 Feb 2005 (EST)

Rovaniemi, Finland

Hello Huttite,

Thanks for the warm welcome. If you get a chance to visit Finland, don't hesitate to go to Rovaniemi and even further up north if you can. I can give you a good address to stay in a nice cabin with sauna and fireplace.

I hope I can contribute further to Wikipedia. I love the idea!

Jumpysky 13:24, 24 Mar 2005 (EST)


Yet another typo stomped by Huttite! -- Mark 10:26, 7 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Thanks for the advice. Q: What's an Upper Hutt New Zealander doing interested in Polish cities? Cheers! khrystene

Minneapolis, MN, USA

Thanks for your help. I am a Minneapolis fanatic and added something to every section. You may want to see my talk:Minneapolis notes and you may want to look over my format. I tried to do well considering my spare time! Take care.

--Westifer 06:36, 08 Apr 2005 (EST)

Dearest Huttite

Dearest Huttite,

I must ask is there an appropriate place in the guide to suggest books pertaining to a destination. Maybe a "Read" section? Thanks. Sapphire 00:37, 19 May 2005 (EDT)

Have a look at Wikitravel:Where you can stick it. Newspapers go in the Understand section, so perhaps appropriate books might too. But also look at Wikitravel:External links and Wikitravel:Contributor research links first. If you are suggesting a particular book for a particular location then there should be a good reason to recommend it - otherwise someone will remove it. BUT perhaps the best place is to first propose and discuss including a book on the article Talk page. -- Huttite 06:52, 19 May 2005 (EDT)

County Article Names

When I first set up the 53 counties of ND, I was finding many names duplicate names of counties in other states. To avoid confusion and duplicate work, I decided to name all 53 as Name County (North Dakota). I realized when I did this that some of the counties were not duplicated in other states and the ND parentheses were not necessary, but it was easier to stick to one naming convention as I wrote the various articles. By changing Oliver County (North Dakota) to Oliver County, this becomes an exception to the naming convention I am using, and will almost certainly lead to errors down the road. Unless there is really a good reason to go changing some of the names and leaving others unchanged, I would like to keep the (North Dakota) in all the county names. Do you see a problem with that? Stavp 17:20, 10 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Please see my replies on the Oliver County talk page and the North Dakota talk page. -- Huttite 07:50, 11 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Administrative nomination

You have been nominated for admin status on Wikitravel. You can view the current discussion about this at Wikitravel:Administrator nominations. If you are interested, please indicate your willingness on Wikitravel:Administrator nominations. You were nominated before when you were new to wikitravel and there was still too much uncertainty on all parts. I'm hoping uncertainty has changed to happy familarity. -- Colin 11:40, 13 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, and the new rights! I hope I don't need them too often. -- Huttite 09:17, 28 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Admin nomination

I've added an nomination for User:Pjamescowie to become an admin. Please stop by and give your opinion. --Evan 19:49, 2 Jul 2005 (EDT)


I've added some stuff about Thane. Thanks for your interest. I am really a newbie, though I've been lurking for long. So I'll be needing your help now and then. Hope that's okay. Sunray Traveller 11:21, 4 Jul 2005 (EDT)

It was just a guess on my part, to find a home for an orphan page. Just one of the things I do to help. -- Huttite 09:01, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)


Just a note to say thanks for dealing with everyone's favorite Wikitravel user earlier today. It looks like you were pretty much on your own, so kudos for perservering. -- Ryan 03:46, 23 Jul 2005 (EDT)

I discovered it to be a learning experience! And it will be put to good use. -- Huttite 03:55, 23 Jul 2005 (EDT)
Cool! This guy's last visit was how I learned how to delete a page and how to handle page moves, so between the two of us it seems he may be doing some good. His motivation is a bit of a mystery (is he just that bored?) although perhaps he has User:Mark confused with the Mark who first banned him on Wikipedia. Anyhow, thanks again, and I'll see if I can do my part to help out by deleting the remainder of the redirects. -- Ryan 04:02, 23 Jul 2005 (EDT)
I think he(?) is working under the misapprehension that this is a WikiMedia project. I think the best course of action is to let him take out his frustrations then undo and clean up anything he does. Blocking him will simply make him pop up somewhere else, without his identity being immediately obvious. And he wants to be blocked, so that should be avoided, as it will justify his activity in his eyes. -- Huttite 06:01, 23 Jul 2005 (EDT)
I couldn't agree more. Thanks a ton for such excellent work so far, gang, and remember to just walk away if you get frustrated. There is strength in numbers. --Evan 13:37, 24 Jul 2005 (EDT)


Thanks for fixing the broken link to Gower/Swansea - much appreciated. User:

Are you still around?

I haven't seen your name pop up recently - just curious if you were still around. I've been playing around in a lot of the NZ articles lately as I'm planning my next trip back. Of course that won't be until early '07, back I'm excited. I didn't make it to your part of the country on my first trip (I flew over it...), but this next one should put me on the ferry.

Anyway - just a little "ping" -- Ilkirk 14:22, 2 Nov 2005 (EST)

Yes, I am around - again. I have not been around recently due to a rather nasty little 'flu' virus I acquired a couple of months ago. Put me off work for a week, and I have spent the last couple of months recovering - mostly by sleeping rather than staying up late at night on Wikitravel. -- Huttite 03:07, 14 Nov 2005 (EST)

Article States

Wow! You really wanted your opinion heard, didn't you? :) I was surprised at the number of paragraphs involved!

I understand the majority of your points, and I don't want you to think that I was running off trying to set up a new policy, but I didn't really want to see it sit in a committee for ages upon ages, either. I figured if the process got into place, everyone would notice and get involved - if it stayed on that talk page, it'd get seen occasionally and could be easily forgotten.

I have to agree that the wording is not the best in the world... I struggled with it as I was writing it. I cleared the page a number of times without ever saving it because I just didn't get the right feeling from it. In the end I just went with what I could drag out of my head and figured that the community would bring it in line - which is apparently exactly what is happening.

So hopefully with it being Sunday afternoon for you, you'll be able to jump in and we'll get this thing rolling. I'll be spotty on computer use for the weekend, but I'll be sure to watch this one and contribute as it develops. Thanks for sharing and helping.

PS - I wish I were on your time zone... because I'd really love to be over there! -- Ilkirk 10:47, 19 Nov 2005 (EST)

I have recently been through a similar exercise at work, modelling a business process for statistical measurement. We had to come up with a simple process that would work in internationally in 8 different legal juridictions, independent of all of them, and their IT systems and still be comparable and internationally consistent - then sell it to everyone. I supposed you got my mental offload of ideas when I saw your proposal was doing pretty much the same thing - only simpler. -- Huttite 23:13, 19 Nov 2005 (EST)

Help Please

I saw that you earlier moved some cities I added Kingston (WA) to Kingston (Washington) for example. I realized that other of my local cities will have namesakes around the world and all our communities are fairly small so thought it prudent to add (Washington) to the names, however this has left two pages - such as Poulsbo and Poulsbo (Washington). I have added the template and start of text to the one towns with (Washington) and need to know how to delete or move or ... earlier, plain cities to the pages that now have (Washington). Doing a search only the first pages I added come up - not the newer corrected ones. Don't worry - I'll catch on - I just need a little help!

My goal is to eventually get good content for all the 32 communities on the Kitsap Peninsula in Washington State.

Thanks Kitsap 15:00, 19 Nov 2005 (EST)

Please stop creating more articles with (Washington) as you will create a rod for your own back. Develop the original 32 article names. The only issue I have is that the ORIGINAL content was dubious, but that can be changed... However, once names are created they are a pain to manage if they are duplicates - as we are all just learning now! Decide on one name to use - preferably the shortest name and ONLY develop that one. ONLY develop an article with (Washington) in the article name IF there is ALREADY another place in Wikitravel. -- Huttite 15:17, 19 Nov 2005 (EST)


Just found my usertalk page and saw you had posted a comment there (quite a while ago). Not used to this "pull" technology, so luck I ever found it. But since I did, thanks for recognizing my contributions! - Cheyenne

Gold Coast Thanks

Hey, thanks for the brief note of thanks on my Gold Coast contributions :) Wasn't expecting recognition! Someone else pointed out the external linking policy which I hadn't found before.. Cheers mate E-CBD 20:45, 8 Dec 2005 (EST)E-CBD

How to link from one section to another


Can you tell me how to make a link that takes a reader to a different part of the same article?

Thanks. Sapphire 22:15, 9 Dec 2005 (EST)

Add [[#Section|refered part]] as the link - this displays as refered part.
For example [[#How to link from one section to another|this section]] - this section. - Huttite 01:10, 11 Dec 2005 (EST)


I've got a proposal for a bot to do the cleanup work on breadcrumb navigation here: Wikitravel:Script nominations#YggdrasilBot. Your comment welcome, please. --Evan 00:02, 11 Dec 2005 (EST)


Since there is already a Wikitravel:Policies and guidelines page I redirected the Wikitravel:Policy page. I should have looked at the timestamp of your change first, so if you were in the process of creating a page with a specific purpose feel free to revert my change. -- Ryan 01:38, 11 Dec 2005 (EST)

No, no - that's OK. I just wanted a place to hang a link off the Policy link on the deletion action page. Your solution is probably the best. -- Huttite
I fixed the deletion action page, too. --Evan 11:52, 11 Dec 2005 (EST)
Great! -- Huttite 06:48, 12 Dec 2005 (EST)


Thanks a lot... that was a real hassle. Lots of different IP addresses, too. --Evan 02:14, 13 Dec 2005 (EST)

Must have been a robot or anonymiser that has worked out a way to get around the Mediawiki security. The thing that twigged me was that all the edits had 1096 bytes. It was easy to target the affected pages using New Pages and Short Pages, without bothering what IP addresses were doing it. Perhaps we need a check that stops two or more new page edits in a row, within a couple of minutes, with exactly the same text on different pages. Perhaps I should make a feature request. -- Huttite 02:29, 13 Dec 2005 (EST)


for correcting Andhra Pradesh after me.--Ravikiran 06:51, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)

The cities showed up on the orphan pages. When one referred to Andhra Pradesh I trolled through the history and realised you had not purged the page before you had removed all the unlinked articles. The 3 I found had apparently been created after the page was last edited, so the links had not been refreshed and still showed as edit links. -- Huttite 03:15, 23 Dec 2005 (EST)
Oh.. I hadn't realised. --Ravikiran 04:58, 23 Dec 2005 (EST)
Just a little consequence of page caching, rather than regenerating every request on the fly. That's why I now always preview the page before editing, by ticking the preview preference box. Then I can see the latest version. -- Huttite 06:46, 27 Dec 2005 (EST)


You've been linking the Himalayas. Where does it fit? --Ravikiran 04:58, 23 Dec 2005 (EST)

I see Himalayas as being a trans-national article about mountain ranges like the Alps, the Rockies and the Andes. A search reveals 20+ mentions of the name. I see this article as being an overview if visiting this area of the world without the political/country structure overlay. It probably fits as a section at the continental level of Asia. -- Huttite 06:43, 23 Dec 2005 (EST)

Editing Photo's

Oh Guru of all things Wiki, can you tell me how to delete photo's? Or direct me to the appropriate link page. I uploaded a rather large pic and would like to remove it. Cheers khrystene

Read Wikitravel:How to delete a page and post the Image page on Wikitravel:Votes for deletion with [[:Image:imagename.ext]] and explain why you want it deleted. They get deleted every now and then by an administrator. -- Huttite 21:34, 28 Dec 2005 (EST)
Thanks again. khrystene

Template question

moved to Talk:Ko_Si_Chang#Template_question

Accented spellings

Thanks for the crêpe message - how about café? (that was the precedent I followed)

Strangely enough cafe is not the correct spelling, according to my dictionary, café is! So I accept it, though I always write cafe and never try to correct it. Perhaps lexicographers can be wrong. However, café is commonly used on signs, but then so is cafe. I think that maybe café is a word where the English usage is still evolving. I really think that café indicates a French word, while cafe is the true English spelling that will come about in a few years, to stand along with caff and cafeteria. There is a significant difference between a Cafe and a Caff in my mind. The first is what used to be called tearooms while the latter is still a Cafeteria. -- Huttite 17:57, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)
I've commented out the crepe entries and my spellchecking efforts are now permanently suspended until a definitive resource is declared on the Wikitravel:Spelling page.
I've also discovered that "crepe myrtle" is a variant spelling of "crape myrtle" and should NOT be spelt with an ê - so unreserved apologies for that one!
Thanks for your help and especially for your patience.
I think we see mainly eye-to-eye on the issue of diacriticals, etc., but your comments in the Wikitravel talk:List of common misspellings thread intrigue me. My remarks on Española (New Mexico) are accurate (pronounce Spanish words there as though they're the king's English, or worse, with a Texas drawl, and you risk serious trouble in some places), but it's an extreme example -- Española is a very tourist-unfriendly place and most in New Mexico are more forgiving. What's the equivalent situation in New Zealand? How important is it to make some attempt to pronounce Maori place names correctly? If the answer is "you better do it in town X or you risk getting run through with a spear," then please use the macrons in the relevant article and help us non-New Zealanders, whether they're easy to access via keyboard or not... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:23, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)
If you read Maori phrasebook I think it says implies we just smile politely and grit our teeth. And if you do get run through with a spear it is because you were standing in the wrong place and should have listened to your protocol advisor in the first place. I have heard of this happening a couple of times and the person concerned had stepped over the string/white line that marked out the area to keep clear of. You do duck your head when boarding a running helicopter don't you? That is why they paint a big circle on the ground with a H in the middle for helecopters to land on. The same applies to whirling spears. -- Huttite 20:51, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the Welcome message!

Halló Huttite! Thanks for your message and the note about the uploaded image. To my understanding it is part of the newest release of MediaWiki. I worked on this some months ago together with wikipedia:en:user:Get It. Would you like to contact him about the required licence? Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri | T 19:03, 5 Jan 2006 (EST)

According to the Wikitravel:Image policy obtaining a release is the responsibility of the uploader. -- Huttite 19:09, 5 Jan 2006 (EST)

Hi! We do not understand what exact license is requested. Please see [1]. Best regards Gangleri | T 23:04, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)


Thanks for your hard work on that spammer tonight! -- Colin 00:58, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

I hope the next one gets a nasty surprise after I worked out how to block their HTML style commands that hides their spam. Nobody should be using style commands on this Wiki - I think. -- Huttite 01:50, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

Spam in Capri article

The user Mimmo46 continues to add his link ( to Capri article. I made a little search, and I have seen that he put his link in various other pages. Is it possible to stop him? -- Alessandro Astarita 07:45, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

Please read Wikitravel:How to handle unwanted edits. The simple solution is to tell the user to stop and revert/remove the edits/links concerned, and repeat this for as long as it takes for the user to get the message. The activity is not frequent enough to warrant anything sterner at present. -- Huttite 07:56, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

re: Release for Image:Mlic.jpg

Hi Huttite

I have added release info in the images let me know if its ok now.
And thanks for correcting the pages.


That release notice looks fine.--Huttite 16:18, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

Spam attack

Thanks for taking care of so much of the recent spam attack. It looks to me like an automated, distributed attack, but it might be something else (who knows?). My guess is that with distributed attacks, adding the URL to the local spam blacklist will probably be more effective than playing whack-a-mole with zombified computers by blocking IPs. I'm pretty down on blocking IPs in the first place, so that might just be my bias talking.

Anyways, thanks for the hard work once again. --Evan 00:41, 7 Jan 2006 (EST)

It looks like some user pages may have been clobbered in one or another of these attacks; User:Mark no longer seems to point to Mark Jaroski's writings. Any idea what happened? -- Bill-on-the-Hill 15:24, 8 Jan 2006 (EST)
It is a bug! You are looking at User:Mark. not User:Mark, whose page is actually here [2], not here [3] and has a following period. -- Huttite 16:49, 8 Jan 2006 (EST)
Right, I got that, but (1) seem unable to get at the non-period Mark's page without following the complete link; (2) can't get at the non-period Mark's talk page at all (we're working on some map stuff and need to communicate); and (3) didn't have this problem before yesterday's spam attack. Not clear that there's cause-and-effect there, but ... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 17:39, 8 Jan 2006 (EST)
To clarify the situation I have put a note with full URL links that go to the appropriate Index.php versions of the pages. I can only assume that some recent software or database change has caused user pages with the trailing period to be detected ahead of those without. -- Huttite 18:38, 8 Jan 2006 (EST)

External Link

I haved added a small section on Kokkare Bellur in Bangalore including an external link to a news papper artcile about the organisation working in that village to protect thenesting site. Can you please have a look and let me know if its ok to have link there. -anurag 04:23, 9 Jan 2006 (EST)