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User talk:Evan/Oct 2004

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Re: GFDL, yes that's what I figured. How annoying considering I was the (only) writer of the Wikipedia article on Tioman, and now I have to refactor my own words to make it usable here. Oh well, maybe someday I'll get around to doing that, but it's hard to get excited about "rephrasing" so it will have to wait. I understand the necessity of doing the legal thing, I really do, but my eyes glaze over with complete boredom at this kind of stuff, so I'll keep pitching in on more interesting stuff. Thanks. Fuzheado 04:43, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

I checked the Wikipedia history, and yes, it seems like you're the only author there. I thus reverted the article to your original version, and reformatted to be more like a Wikitravel article. I also put a note on the Talk page about it, so that it doesn't happen again. --Evan 10:31, 2 Feb 2004 (EST)

What is a good reason? I figured Kuala Lampur had a link to it, but Bears didn't, and we don't need an article about bears (though we do have one about Bern). -phma 21:12, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

I'm not saying we need Bears. But I think the rule of thumb should be: can we let this article entry sit for the 7 days required to let it go through the votes for deletion queue? If so, then we should favor v.f.d. over immediate deletion.
This has the dual value of a) stating the principle of why Bears isn't a good article for a travel guide and b) pointing out that finding and removing articles that don't meet our goals isn't the exclusive job of people with their admin bit flipped. Yes, only admins can give the final chop, but we're all supposed to be checking for it.
The deletion policy explicitly says that admins can delete at will. But I'd rather that we don't get in that habit if we don't have to. --Evan 10:31, 2 Feb 2004 (EST)

Thanks for the clarification re: copyright and content for Tioman. Fuzheado 23:35, 2 Feb 2004 (EST)

Dear Mighty Silverback,

I'm working on a python script that will suck in the TIGERLine data and spit out SVG that people then can manipulate in whatever way. This will be cool because then we will be able to do most US city maps fairly easily (I hope.)

So when I'm done with this tool I don't want it just published on my site, because if my box disappears or I buy the farm it may disappear forever. Is there a way to make it part of the Wiki easily, and how would I do this? Just make a new node and paste it in? Or is there a better magical way?

-- Yosemite 01:54, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

So, the idea being to save the code for future or downstream users? That's a cool idea. How about using Special:Upload to upload a tarball? Or just upload the Python script? This is a really good idea, by the way -- I'm quite impressed! --Evan 01:58, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)
Actually, I had another idea. We can set up an arch repository on, say,, for just this kind of thing. Maybe sftp for write access, http for read-only access? Does that sound reasonable? --Evan 12:25, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)
Sounds good to me. I'm writing my own map converter, which will be ready for drawing its first map in a couple of days, and would like to upload it and maybe cross-fertilize with Yosemite's (it's also in Python). I don't think Special:Upload is right for programs, since they should have a different license - what license is appropriate? -phma 18:48, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

Arch is fine by me. The setup sounds about right. As far as licenses go I plan on putting mine under the GPL since it is now not part of the Wiki.
-- Yosemite 21:14, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

Buying / renting

Evan, it was never my intention to blank the page. I must have done it by mistake. I looked at it afterwards and when I didn't see anything I thought it had to be something with my browser or Wikitravel itself. Never thought it could actually be *me* :-( Sorry, but as you know I've got lots of work and I *am* pretty tired. I wish I could do more for Wikitravel, but alas... DhDh 16:36, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

No sweat. I figured it was a mistake. I just wanted to let you know that I'd reverted, in case you did do it on purpose for some good reason I didn't understand.
Anyways, take it easy, don't kill yourself! Wikitravel's supposed to be fun -- a relief from work, not extra work. --Evan 16:49, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)


Evan, no sweat. I've added language certifying that I took the photos and give Wikitravel my blessing to use them. Let me know if you need anything more than that. Fuzheado 00:31, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

Nope, that's it! Thanks a ton! --Evan 11:03, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)


Evan, there is definitely something wrong with my browser. I just posted a comment on the traveller's pub and most of the page was gone! What's worse: I'm unable to revert it. This time I know I didn't do anything wrong. I'll have a look at it this weekend. Could you fix the page for me? Thanks a lot! DhDh 12:32, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

Oh man!!!! I should sink in the ground of shame!!!!! :-((((( DhDh 12:34, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

No, that's perfectly reasonable. It seems like the "Post a comment" feature should go to the pub itself, not to the talk page. There are a couple of other pages like this: bug reports, feature requests.
I'm wondering if maybe doing a redirect from the Talk: page to the page itself would work... I'm going to experiment a bit. But, uh... hee hee. --Evan 12:51, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

Meeting in London

I left a note on Maj's page too... Are you guys interested in meeting up while you're in London? Is there a meet with London Wikipedians already organised? - MykReeve 17:18, 9 Feb 2004 (EST)

Seattle map

Evan, I've seen that same map repurposed often here in Seattle, and there is no copyright claim on the web page it comes from (though, admittedly there is for some other content on the site). I am certain that the last thing the city would want to do, even if copyright exists, is enforce it against a web site that promotes tourism to their city.

Having dealt with the city gov't here, including their webmasters, it would be incredibly tedious to get explicit permission to use it, and I'm not going to pursue that wild goose chase.

If you actually think this is a problem, ping me again, and I will create a (probably slightly less topographically accurate) map from scratch. We really do need something, though, because these neighborhoods are how everyone in Seattle talks about where anything is. -- Jmabel 19:32, 9 Feb 2004 (EST)