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: Thanks for the detailed borders and maps. They'll help quite a bit.  I'll probably start work on it on the weekend. The whole thing will definitely take more than a week though. Putting down streets is a pain (that Vancouver I map I posted was in the works off and on for three months, for example). [[User:Shaund|Shaund]] 01:01, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
: Thanks for the detailed borders and maps. They'll help quite a bit.  I'll probably start work on it on the weekend. The whole thing will definitely take more than a week though. Putting down streets is a pain (that Vancouver I map I posted was in the works off and on for three months, for example). [[User:Shaund|Shaund]] 01:01, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
::Hey Shaund!  Well, make sure you check your talk page, as I forgot to add some things in here but I did there.  KK?  Anyways thanks for doing this.  So basically 1.5 weeks frum now v1.0 should be out!  Yay...THIS IS SO COOL!  I am glad I could help in any way...make sure if you have questions to please ask!!!!    Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 01:06, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
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Revision as of 05:10, 29 October 2008

Hello Edmontonenthusiast! Welcome to Wikitravel.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Wikitravel:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. Thank you for your enthusiastic work on Edmonton, and on Vancouver, Calgary and some other pages where I've seen your work. I admire your enthusiasm! JimDeLaHunt 02:50, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

Districts in Calgary

I saw you added some districts to Calgary#Understand. Please see the discussion in Talk:Calgary#Districts and Huge City?. I've removed that "Districts" section until there's a consensus on Talk. Please join the discussion there! Thank you, JimDeLaHunt 02:50, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

A thankyou

Thank you to Jim for being so helpful! I like how you called me 'enthusiastic' heh! You are so helpful! Edmontonenthusiast 19:11, 22 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast


Just a hint, you really really shouldn't be using capital letters as much as you do, it's the internet equivalent of shouting at someone (and not just like a HEY for catching the attention of someone), and most people (including me) find it to be rude. No, I'm not offended or anything, I'm pretty easy going :) But it's certainly not going to help you around here. Sertmann 21:38, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

Oh I am so sorry, I already knew about that, but did not think it pertained to here. Thankyou, I won't do it again (Unless Necessary!).

Edmontonenthusiast 22:02, 22 October 2008 (EDT)Edmonton Enthusiast


Just a suggestion... your signature seems to be a bit goofy, it's adding your username twice... perhaps in your preferences you accidentally added your username again into one of the boxes? If you blank them, your signature will appear more normal, like this: Edmontonenthusiast 19:06, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

Or, you can also add in something under "real name" in your prefs, so if you put Edmonton Enthusiast it will come out as: Edmonton Enthusiast 19:06, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

Again, just a suggestion :) – cacahuate talk 21:09, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Sorry, I don't get it...It may be because I am trying to relax, do a TON of WikiT stuff and do some Spanish homework...please try in simpler terms...also I'm new... Edmontonenthusiast 21:13, 23 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast

Nooo worries. Take a look at you signature, after your last comment. See how it starts out with your username (which is linked to your user page), then the time and date, and then, the strange part, it shows Edmontonenthusiast again, right after (EDT). See what I mean? Go to Special:Preferences, are "Real name" and "Nickname" blank? – cacahuate talk 22:02, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Yes, they're blank... Edmontonenthusiast 22:07, 23 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast
Ok then, next question... When you sign your name on talk pages, are you typing anything other than 4 tildes (~~~~) ? You don't need to type your name or anything, just that, and it will do the rest – cacahuate talk 22:08, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Oh I did my name¿ Edmontonenthusiast 22:13, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Aha! Well, the last one is perfect  :) If you ever want to change it, you can add something in the "Real name" box in Special:Preferencescacahuate talk 22:17, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Thanks! Can you look over Edmonton/Central and tell me if I am doign a good jon¿? Edmontonenthusiast 22:20, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Good luck

Ok, I think i got you started now, so I'm gonna take a step back and let you work your magic. You can still ask of course, just don't expect me to respond on the hour to your questions in the future, it may even take a day or something - I have huge piles of work awaiting, doing my own articles and janitorial work, and I pretty much spend the whole evening getting you set - good luck with your writing :) and i look forward to seeing some completed districts, good to have another enthusiastic user around. Sertmann 21:23, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Oh thank you so much for using up some of your time. Did you see my nomination? Sorry for asking so much. Do stop by and look at my work, and comment in the discussion if you like :). Edmontonenthusiast 21:26, 23 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast

Work section

Hi there. To answer your question, I deleted the work section from the Edmonton article because the purpose of the section is to inform travellers of opportunities to make money while travelling, not to tell what kind of work is available for someone who might move there. The description in the article template says:

What possibilities are there for travellers to earn money in this city? Note that this is kind of long-range and probably won't be appropriate for most destinations.

Since you pointed it out, I deleted part of the Work section in the Calgary article too. Notice that what I left though are a few thing a travellers could do.

By the way, I do appreciate your enthusiasm and all the hard work you are doing. I hope you don't get too frustrated with those of us editing your work. We are just trying to make it more consistent with the Wikitravel ideal. Keep up the good work. Texugo 03:53, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, Texugo, you are helping, but, can you check the Travellers pub, I think there is something about you, if not I think you could help! Its at the bottom, or near it (depending on when you look @ it it may not be at the bottom)! Thansk, Edmontonenthusiast 12:25, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Longmont, CO

I added some more to it. -- 00:23, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

Oh thats really good, I'm glad to see you editing so much, it makes me feel good! :) Maybe you should get an account, maybe? It's good seeing you edit such a neat little town! I really like Prospect New Town, hehe! Edmontonenthusiast 00:32, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

Edmonton map and other general comments

Hey Edmonton, doing an overview map of Edmonton that shows its districts and major roads isn't a problem. But two things first -- 1. You need to define the boundaries of each district first and give me an idea of what the major roads are, and 2. It takes time! Probably about 2-3 weeks, possibly more since I'm very busy with work right now. I'll probably release a first cut without streets just to get something up and add the roads and transit later.

I just did a bit of work on Edmonton/Central and I'll try to drop by a couple of times a week to help out. You've made a great start on the district articles and your writing style is pretty good. A couple of things I noted are:

  • the boundaries of each district should be defined somewhere at or near the start of the article so anyone reading the article will know where the district is in relation to the rest of the city
  • consistency with the Manual of style (or MoS) -- it's not such a big deal when an article is starting out, but as it progresses it's important that listings are consistent and complete (e.g., address, phone #, website, hours, admission cost). Obviously, not all listings will have this info, but if there's a website, it's good to get as much of the contact/admission info as possible. I formatted some of the Edmonton/Central#See listings as an example.
  • watch the length on some of restaurant/drink listings -- they shouldn't be more than a few lines

Anyway, keep up the effort. Edmonton looks a lot better already, but it's a huge project and will take some time. Shaund 20:25, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

(I am putting this in my talk page, as well) OH THANK YOU SHAUND...YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY YOU'VE MADE ME SERIOUSLY! OH THANK GOD! LOL...anyways I know you won't put roads in first but you need to put in the river and the city boundaries! OK? Thanks agaiN! I don't mind that it takes a few weeks, it's just a load off because I know I'd suck and I'm busy with the "written" part ;), plus other stuff I like to do (going out, Playing SimCity, hanging out with the people I love :)) this is just such a load off! Oh thank you Shaund! And I will add the districts borders to the main page and the districts, but how would you go about describing if say it is "bound by the north by one road, but then its northern side goes in a southwest direction on another road, then a east-west road again, just further south, etc."?¿ Thank you so much for the advice as well, I am working hard to get all of them USEABLE...then I will do the main article to fit the districts, then I'll be more specific to the manual of style and try and make 'em guides! Thank you for your edits as well, any edits are ALWAYS APPRECIATED. Once you answer my question about district borders, I'll set the borders up :)! Or what I could do is take a map from Open Street and just use that (because the major roads, which are borders are shown) and show you that, then you can make a good one (the OpenStreet one wouldn't really be good for this anyways ;)! Thanks so much Shaund. Just let me know when you are starting, how your progressing (if you want you can upload the incomplete image to show me ... ) and if you have any questions ;)! Thank you so much, by the way,Vancouver rocks! haha. It does, I'm serious, my third favourite city (Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver...). Heh, anywauy,s thanks! Also, are you learning any about Edmonton via these articles, if so, what in particular? Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 20:49, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
No worries, the river and city boundaries will be there. :-) As for borders, I'd prefer them written out; they should be for the district articles anyway. I recommend keeping them as simple (i.e., rectangular) as possible since it makes it easier to describe and follow. I think for one of the Vancouver districts I say the district's borders are 16th Ave to the south, Fir St to west, False Creek in the north and Ontario St to the east. It won't always be that tidy, but it's a good standard to aim for.
BTW, you seem to be stressing a bit about the maps -- don't worry about it. You can have a really strong article without a map. After all, it's pretty easy and cheap to buy a good map for a city, it's not so easy or cheap to buy a good guide to a city like Edmonton.
And thanks for the kind words about Vancouver. I'm sure I'll learn lots about Edmonton -- I've only been there once, and that was years ago with my parents on a family vacation. Far too much time was spent at the West Edmonton Mall :( Shaund 22:46, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
Hey, Shaund! Thanks for all, I just think the main article is like really missing the district map. The borders are pretty simple. Tomorrow I will put the district borders. Remember to tell me when you start (I HOPE SOON!) and tell me how you're progressing! Thanks for all! I will give you a message probably when I put the borders up:). I also added you to "nice people on WikiTravel " just clieck user page:)! Oh so sad that you only saw that horrible, suburban nightmare of a mall. Next time you definately gotta check out Downtown, Oliver, University, and Whyte Ave areas! Just look at the travel guide on where to go :P (104th Street downtown, City centre, festivals, the river valley, 112th St., 124th Street, where the bars are, etc. etc.) Thanks! Reply soon:)!!!!Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 23:24, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
Cool. I'll look for those district borders. And glad I could make the nice people list... just one small thing (so my wife stops laughing at me): it should be "go to him" (not her)! Shaund 01:07, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
Oh sorry, Shaund, that is quite funny. It was just a typo I'll fix that, heheheheeh! I'll send you a nice message in your talk and on here for the information (later) today!!!! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 10:15, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
When I get home I'll get all the information ready! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 14:09, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

Welcome message

Hi there. Just a pointer-- when you leave a welcome message for new users, type {{subst:welcome}} instead of just {{welcome}}. Otherwise it literally prints the text "Hello PAGENAME!" instead of inserting their actual username. Texugo 20:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

Ok thanks, was just tryin' to help :)! Also, I thought it was ok, as thats what I got for my begginner! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 20:54, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

Regarding Edmonton map

from your talk page Hi, Shaund! It's what you've been waiting for-the information for the Edmonton district's map ahah! I know, I know you were thinking that all-inclusive trip to Miami! NOOO! Haha, anyways, here's all the information:

Edmonton, as you know, is having 8 districts:

  • Central - bound by: Groat Road in the west from the river until 118th Avenue. The northern boundaries are 118th Avenue which turns into Kingsway Ave. until 111 Avenue, then the northern border takes a north-south boundary at 118th Ave and 97 St. of 97th Street until the Yellowhhead (16) Highway and that continues it's northern border until Wayne Gretzky Drive. It's eastern border is Wayne Gretzky Drive between Yellowhead and river. The southern boundary is the North Saskatchewan River between Groat Road and Wayne Gretzky Drive.
  • East Central - basically east of the Wayne Gretzky Drive, south of Yellowhead, west of the Highway 216/Anthony Henday Dr. (aka eastern boundaries of the city) and north of the river. Basically that!
  • South Central - western boundary is the river. Northern boundary is the river until 98 Avenue then that's its norhtern boundary until Connor's Road (Which is rightaway) then at a traffic circle it continues as 83 St. Oh boy, I just did it's eastern boundary, heh. Then continuuuing the eastern boudary along 82nd/Whyte Avenue until 75th St. 75th St. until Argyll Road. Then the southern boundary is Argyll Road which turns into 63 Avenue then joins up with 61 Avenue west of 104th Street/Calgary Trl. Contuinue on that until 113 St. 113 St becomes the border until Belgravia Road/Fox Drive which is the border until Whitemud Drive, which is the border (for a teeeny bit)until the river! Phewph! Confusing?
  • North - start with the southern boundary which begins in the west as Stony Plain Road until Mayfield Road (north-south road)which then turns into 111(west-east) Avenue which is the border until Groat Road which is the border until 118th Avenue that turns into Kingwway Avenue. Kingsway is then the border until 111 Ave. which is the border until 97th St. 97th is the border until Yellowhead. Then basically anything north of the Yellowhead is the north end. It's eastern boundary is the city limits north of the Yellowhead. Same with the west. The north aswell. Just make sure you check the city borders properyl :)!

Phew-four more!
  • West - the western border is the city limits. The southern border the same. The northern boundary is Stony Plain Road until Mayfield Road which turns into 111 Avenue. That is the border until Groat Road. Groat Road is the eastern boundary until the river, which finishes off being the eastern border all the way south down to the city limits.
  • Southwest - Eastern boundary is 99 St. until Whitemud Drive, which is breif in being the border because at 91 St. that becomes the border. 91 St. is the eastern boundary until Anthony Henday Drive. Anthony Henday is brefily the boundary until Calgary Trail, which becomes the boundary until the city limits. Southern borders are the city limits west of Calg. Trail. Western boundary is the North Saskatchewan River until the Whitemud Drive. Whitemud breifly becomes border. Now we're at the northern boder. At Whitemudand Fox Drive, Fox Drive becomes the border which turns into Belgravia Road. At 113 St., 113 St becomes the border until 61 Avenue. Which is the border until it meets up with 63 Avenue which is the border until 99 St.

  • East - western boundary is 98th Ave until Connor's Rd. then at a traffic circle it continues as 83 St. Then continuing the eastern boudary along 82nd/Whyte Avenue until 75th St. 75th St. until Argyll Road. Then the southern boundary is Argyll Road which turns into 63 Avenue which is the border until 99 St. 99th is the border until Whitemud Drive. The southern boundary is north of Whitmud Drive, east of 99th. The eastern is the city boundaries-I believe Highway 216. Northern boundary is basically the river until Yellowhead Trl. which is the northern boundary until the eastern city limits. *Sigh*.
  • Mill Woods - basically west of 91 Street untilAnthony Henday Drive (highway) which at Calgary Trail, Calgary Trail becomes the western boundary until southern limits. Southern limits is the southern city limits. Northern boundary is Whitemud Dr. east of 91 St. Eastern boundary is city limits.

Ok there, I hhope I was thorough, I was getting tired. If you have any questions ,remember just ask MIIIII. Remember to put in the city limits, I would also like you to grey-out Sherwood Park and Saint Albert (municipalities connected) like the Vancouver map ;)!!!! Also don't forget to PUT IN the river!!!!!!!! Use online maps or bought maps to help you, aswell! To help you further, I saved a map from OpenStreetMaps to give you a different perspective, in case the above was somewhat confusing!


That one shows just the district borders and their names!!!!!

The one below also shows the roads you should put in v2...I know you won't put the roads in rightaway, but soon after the original version is created, please put the roads in. The colours I chose for the words of the districts in this one you can use for the colours of the districts, if you feel as if you'd like to!!!! Here is: File:Roads for eventual map.JPG

Just sucks that all the roads in openstreet for Edmonton aren't on there:(!!!! Anyways, how are yeh? How long do you think this will take? One week? I am thinkin' between one and two weeks. Thanks again, I really do appreciate it, and I'm sorry not more of them were squary but they just don't fit so I had to put specific borders, but I did tone it down, like now Westmount is apart of the northside instead and Rexall Place is in central now. Now I've done my dutties, remember tot tell me how you're progressing and when you've started. Thanks, mate! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 19:18, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the detailed borders and maps. They'll help quite a bit. I'll probably start work on it on the weekend. The whole thing will definitely take more than a week though. Putting down streets is a pain (that Vancouver I map I posted was in the works off and on for three months, for example). Shaund 01:01, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
Hey Shaund! Well, make sure you check your talk page, as I forgot to add some things in here but I did there. KK? Anyways thanks for doing this. So basically 1.5 weeks frum now v1.0 should be out! Yay...THIS IS SO COOL! I am glad I could help in any way...make sure if you have questions to please ask!!!! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 01:06, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

No problem

Hi WindHorse! I want to thank you for you're ideas in the Travellers' Pub! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast

No problem. Let me know is I can help with anything. WindHorse 00:24, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Thanks! Did you check your summary on my userpg? Like it? Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 00:27, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
Nope, but I just took a look, but couldn't find it. Anyway, I'm sure it will be fine. Cheers. WindHorse 00:38, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
tRY reloading...theres like a bug. try that, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edmontonenthusiast 01:00, 29 October 2008 (EDT)