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Hello Edmontonenthusiast! [[Wikitravel:Welcome, newcomers|Welcome]] to [[Wikitravel:About|Wikitravel]].
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== Re: Hey ==
  
To help get you started contributing, we've created a [[Wikitravel:Tips for new contributors|tips for new contributors]] page, full of helpful links about [[Wikitravel:policies and guidelines|policies and guidelines]] and [[Wikitravel:Manual of style|style]], as well as some important information on [[:shared:Copyleft|copyleft]] and basic stuff like [[Wikitravel:How to edit a page|how to edit a page]].  If you need help, check out [[Wikitravel:Help]], or post a message in the [[Wikitravel:travellers' pub|travellers' pub]]. Thank you for your enthusiastic work on [[Edmonton]], and on [[Vancouver]], [[Calgary]] and some other pages where I've seen your work. I admire your enthusiasm! [[User:JimDeLaHunt|JimDeLaHunt]] 02:50, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
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Yep, I noticed.
  
== Districts in [[Calgary]] ==
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If I could ask a question: I noticed you consider [[Walt Disney World]] to be "tacky", "too crowded", and "overrated".  I'm not trying to change your opinion, but I'm curious what you think of our article on the resort, and if any aspects highlighted there appeal to you.
I saw you added some districts to [[Calgary#Understand]].  Please see the discussion in [[Talk:Calgary#Districts and Huge City?]]. I've removed that "Districts" section until there's a consensus on Talk.  Please join the discussion there!  Thank you, [[User:JimDeLaHunt|JimDeLaHunt]] 02:50, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 
  
== A thankyou ==
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I'm always working to improve that article, and one way to make our coverage of the place stand out would be to try to highlight some of the less-noticed features, things that people don't always think about when they think of Walt Disney World.  So what sorts of vacation things do you like to do?  Where do you go on vacation?  What could we highlight in the WDW article that you might find a little appealing?
  
Thank you to Jim for being so helpfulI like how you called me 'enthusiastic' heh!  You are so helpful!
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Thanks-- [[User:LtPowers|LtPowers]] 08:48, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
[[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 19:11, 22 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast
 
  
== Tone ==
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: Hi!  What I'll do is post this here and on your talk page. I'll also look through it while I write this so I don't miss any of my thoughts and whatnot on the topic.
Just a hint, you really really shouldn't be using capital letters as much as you do, it's the internet equivalent of shouting at someone (and not just like a HEY for catching the attention of someone), and most people (including me) find it to be rude. No, I'm not offended or anything, I'm pretty easy going :) But it's certainly not going to help you around here. [[User:Sertmann|Sertmann]] 21:38, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
 
  
:Oh I am so sorry, I already knew about that, but did not think it pertained to hereThankyou, I won't do it again (Unless Necessary!).
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:I'm actually doing the same for Portland (Or), as over the past while I have gotten an increased interest in the city, and will be going to it soon so that's good.  I nominated it for DOTM cause I cleaned it up a bit and it seemed worthyBy the time it'd get DOTM I'd be able to upload pics so there will be more pics, and make a map perhaps.
  
[[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 22:02, 22 October 2008 (EDT)Edmonton Enthusiast
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:Oh and of course I'm doing it with Edmonton & Alberta.
  
== Signature ==
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: Anyhow, Walt Disney World.  Before I get started I mind as well just say flat out the place doesn't attract me.  It seems like more a place for little kids and families instead, and to me just looks tacky and overhype.  I don't know, that's just how I feel - but then again I don't go and watch Disney princess on tele.
  
Just a suggestion... your signature seems to be a bit goofy, it's adding your username twice... perhaps in your [[special:preferences|preferences]] you accidentally added your username again into one of the boxes? If you blank them, your signature will appear more normal, like this: [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 19:06, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
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:One thing I do like though is the information really. I love how you give tributes to Walt Disney and fun facts. The Understand section is amazing.
  
Or, you can also add in something under "real name" in your prefs, so if you put Edmonton Enthusiast it will come out as: [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmonton Enthusiast]] 19:06, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
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:I didn't know there was a parade!  Interesting.  And one thing you might want to do is a climate graph like in Edmonton.  They seem very strict on alcohol.  In the food section I wouldn't be so quick to single out mcdonalds.  maybe say there are some regular fast food chains but save the actual lists for high quality restaurants / vendors.
  
Again, just a suggestion :) &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 21:09, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
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:For me?  You ask?  What kind of travelling do I like to do?  I like going to cities.  Particularily North American ones, although I would not mind Europe.  I am a urban planning geek so that would explain that.  WDW looks very very suburbanized and concentrated around the highway, which I hate. I am very antisuburbs, so thats another thing that bothers me about it.  Maybe if they have transit going to it, that would be a good thing to highlight.  I don't really like warm cities either. Miami, Los Angeles, Honolulu, Las Vegas, Abuquerque, Phoenix, and Tampa barely interest me. San Diego is an exception, as is Texas. I like northern cities, with 4 seasons, and seem to feel more "older" I guess, although the southern cities are also old just in a different way.  Rustbelt, New England, East Coast, North midwestern, Pacific Northwest, and NoCal areas of the US I like. In Canada, almost anywhere interests me, as long as it's cities. Montréal, Fredricton, Thunder Bay, Toronto, etc. I like sort of former communist countries in Europe like Germany, Poland, and Russia just cause it would be interesting to see socialism instead of capitalism, although I'd never live in those places even though they are democratic now. I like the places that either had a big influence by English or the place influenced English. So Belgium, Germany, Holland, Denmark, and Sweden interest me. Scadinavia as a whole seems pretty cool.  I'd rather go to New York than Yellowstone, or Sydney than Everest, or Tokyo over the Coral Reef, or Houston over WDW basically. I don't like suburban cities at all. Maybe if WDW has a more "urban sector", although I doubt it does that would be cool to highlight.  Orlando as a whole seems very suburbanized.  Nearby Tampa tooAnd Jacksonville.  Nearest would be Miami I guess or Atlanta.
:Sorry, I don't get it...It may be because I am trying to relax, do a TON of WikiT stuff and do some Spanish homework...please try in simpler terms...also I'm new...  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 21:13, 23 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast
 
  
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:Does that help?  If not please let me know, or if you need more information or just a general comment please don't hesitate to reply.  I'd actually like a reply, but ya don't haveto.  Thankyou.  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 22:15, 16 May 2009 (EDT).
  
Nooo worries. Take a look at you signature, after your last comment. See how it starts out with your username (which is linked to your user page), then the time and date, and then, the strange part, it shows Edmontonenthusiast again, right after (EDT). See what I mean? Go to [[Special:Preferences]], are "Real name" and "Nickname" blank? &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 22:02, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
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::Hey, thanks for your thoughts. No need to copy it in two places, I'll find it.  =) You seem very well grounded in reality, so I can see that a fantastic place like Walt Disney World wouldn't appeal to you. Makes sense. [[User:LtPowers|LtPowers]] 09:10, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
::Yes, they're blank... [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 22:07, 23 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast
 
  
:::Ok then, next question... When you sign your name on talk pages, are you typing anything other than 4 tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) ? You don't need to type your name or anything, just that, and it will do the rest &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 22:08, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
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:::Alright. No problems about telling. Did you like any of my suggestions? BTW - I appreciate all the work youve put into WDW aside from me not liking it.  It's a good article.  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 13:35, 17 May 2009 (EDT).
::::Oh I did my name too....next¿ [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 22:13, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
 
  
:::::Aha! Well, the last one is perfect  :)  If you ever want to change it, you can add something in the "Real name" box in [[Special:Preferences]] &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 22:17, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
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::::Oh sure, I'm going to see what I can do. [[User:LtPowers|LtPowers]] 07:54, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
::::::Thanks!  Can you look over [[Edmonton/Central]] and tell me if I am doign a good jon¿? [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 22:20, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
 
  
== Good luck ==
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:::::Urban planning?  It's a little hobby of mine also, although, I see some very urban features in WDW myself. Consider that from morning to dusk, that the average population on any given day of the year is 50,000 and the economics of the parks surpass that of many of the nation's cities also. My interest in urban planning varies from socio-economic to military inspired.  If I was an urban planner in [[Warsaw]] at the end of World War II, I would have designed small streets around government buildings, designed buildings that were being constructed alongside the major arteries of the city to collapse in a certain way, if demolished, so that an invading army would be unable to use the roads to transport troops, equipment, or supplies via trucks or cars. -- [[User:Sapphire|Sapphire]] • <small>([[User_talk:Sapphire|Talk]])</small> • 08:10, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
Ok, I think i got you started now, so I'm gonna take a step back and let you work your magic. You can still ask of course, just don't expect me to respond ''on the hour'' to your questions in the future, it may even take a day or something - I have huge piles of work awaiting, doing my own articles and janitorial work, and I pretty much spend the whole evening getting you set - good luck with your writing :) and i look forward to seeing some completed districts, good to have another enthusiastic user around. [[User:Sertmann|Sertmann]] 21:23, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:Oh thank you so much for using up some of your time.  Did you see my nomination?  Sorry for asking so much.  Do stop by and look at my work, and comment in the discussion if you like :).  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 21:26, 23 October 2008 (EDT)Edmontonenthusiast
 
  
==''Work'' section==
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==Calgary==
Hi there. To answer your question, I deleted the work section from the [[Edmonton]] article because the purpose of the section is to inform travellers of opportunities to make money ''while travelling'', not to tell what kind of work is available for someone who might move there. The description in the [[Wikitravel:Big city article template|article template]] says:
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No, it's not OK. You can delete the content when you're ready to replace it. There is no "soon". [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 16:13, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:''What possibilities are there for travellers to earn money in this city? Note that this is kind of long-range and probably won't be appropriate for most destinations. ''
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:Well if you must know I was just re editing it.  I don't think its a big deal waiting 20 minutes for it to be re changed.  I was doing it so I remember later.  I don't see the big deal. I'll revert your edit (again), but don't revert it, as right after, like I was doing, I'll be editing it, ok? [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 16:16, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
Since you pointed it out, I deleted part of the Work section in the Calgary article too. Notice that what I left though are a few thing a travellers ''could'' do.
 
  
By the way, I do appreciate your enthusiasm and all the hard work you are doing. I hope you don't get too frustrated with those of us editing your work. We are just trying to make it more consistent with the Wikitravel ideal. Keep up the good work. [[User:Texugo|Texugo]] 03:53, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
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EE, even if you think you're right, ''don't repeatedly revert''.  That's what got you blocked before. Edit wars are not made "okay" by good intent; they are simply a description of what is happening when people revert back and forth repeatedly.  ''Always'' discuss ''before'' reverting something someone else reverted. [[User:LtPowers|LtPowers]] 17:04, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks, Texugo, you are helping, but, can you check the Travellers pub, I think there is something about you, if not I think you could help! Its at the bottom, or near it (depending on when you look @ it it may not be at the bottom)! Thansk, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 12:25, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 
  
== Longmont, CO ==
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Also, it's great that you're re-writing it.  But just let the current text sit there meanwhile instead of deleting it.  First, this helps if you get a Real Life distraction which prevents you from finishing right away since you can just handle Real Life first, then come back where you left off.  Second, it makes it easier to see what's going on when doing a diff in the history.  Thanks. -- [[User:Cjensen|Colin]] 17:24, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
  
I added some more to it. --[[User:71.254.108.212|71.254.108.212]] 00:23, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
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:Thanks.  The tips help, will try to implent them later. [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 22:00, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
:Oh thats really good, I'm glad to see you editing so much, it makes me feel good! :)  Maybe you should get an account, maybe?  It's good seeing you edit such a neat little town!  I really like Prospect New Town, hehe!  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 00:32, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
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::Whenever I have undertaken edits that cannot be completed in one session, I work on a text document and later copy and paste the completed version. In this way, others can still access the original information. Hope that is helpful. [[User:WindHorse|WindHorse]] 22:07, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
  
== Edmonton map and other general comments ==
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Yes!  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 22:08, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
  
Hey Edmonton, doing an overview map of [[Edmonton]] that shows its districts and major roads isn't a problem. But two things first -- 1. You need to define the boundaries of each district first and give me an idea of what the major roads are, and 2. It takes time! Probably about 2-3 weeks, possibly more since I'm very busy with work right now. I'll probably release a first cut without streets just to get something up and add the roads and transit later.
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:This also applies to [[Edmonton]] (and all articles), it's best to not delete info until the moment you are replacing it with a better version. Leaving edit summaries are also very helpful in letting people know the reasoning behind your edits, especially when they are significant. Are you planning to restore a lot of that info that you just re-deleted from Edmonton's history section? Colin already restored it once yesterday. It certainly needs a rewrite, but there's a lot of useful info in there &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 18:16, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
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::I've started rewritting it, I got up to WWII, the rest won't take long. Actually cacahuate I need your help!  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 18:26, 24 May 2009 (EDT).
  
I just did a bit of work on [[Edmonton/Central]] and I'll try to drop by a couple of times a week to help out.  You've made a great start on the district articles and your writing style is pretty good.  A couple of things I noted are:
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== rewrites ==
* the boundaries of each district should be defined somewhere at or near the start of the article so anyone reading the article will know where the district is in relation to the rest of the city
 
* consistency with the [[Wikitravel:Manual of style | Manual of style (or MoS)]] -- it's not such a big deal when an article is starting out, but as it progresses it's important that listings are consistent and complete (e.g., address, phone #, website, hours, admission cost). Obviously, not all listings will have this info, but if there's a website, it's good to get as much of the contact/admission info as possible. I formatted some of the [[Edmonton/Central#See]] listings as an example.
 
* watch the length on some of restaurant/drink listings -- they shouldn't be more than a few lines
 
  
Anyway, keep up the effort. [[Edmonton]] looks a lot better already, but it's a huge project and will take some time. [[User:Shaund|Shaund]] 20:25, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
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Hey there EE, so please please pretty please.... when you are planning to rewrite something, <u>replace the old text with the new in a <i>single edit</i></u>.... some examples are [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Pakistan&diff=prev&oldid=1078489 here] and [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Hagi&diff=prev&oldid=1146698 here]. Deleting info like [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Edmonton&diff=prev&oldid=1152719 this] with future plans to rewrite, even 10 minutes in the future, is ''not'' the right way to go. If you need time to rewrite it, work on a word doc, or create a page in your userspace where you can copy the article to and work on it there however you wish. Thank you! &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 18:44, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
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:Yeah no I understand I'm sorry, I could create a sandbox. [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 18:47, 25 May 2009 (EDT).
  
:(I am putting this in my talk page, as well) OH THANK YOU SHAUND...YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY YOU'VE MADE ME SERIOUSLY!  OH THANK GOD!  LOL...anyways I know you won't put roads in first but you need to put in the river and the city boundaries!  OK?  Thanks agaiN!  I don't mind that it takes a few weeks, it's just a load off because I know I'd suck and I'm busy with the "written" part ;), plus other stuff I like to do (going out, Playing SimCity, hanging out with the people I love :)) this is just such a load off!  Oh thank you Shaund!  And I will add the districts borders to the main page and the districts, but how would you go about describing if say it is "bound by the north by one road, but then its northern side goes in a southwest direction on another road, then a east-west road again, just further south, etc."?¿  Thank you so much for the advice as well, I am working hard to get all of them USEABLE...then I will do the main article to fit the districts, then I'll be more specific to the manual of style and try and make 'em guides!  Thank you for your edits as well, any edits are ALWAYS APPRECIATED.  Once you answer my question about district borders, I'll set the borders up :)!  Or what I could do is take a map from Open Street and just use that (because the major roads, which are borders are shown) and show you that, then you can make a good one (the OpenStreet one wouldn't really be good for this anyways ;)!  Thanks so much Shaund.  Just let me know when you are starting, how your progressing (if you want you can upload the incomplete image to show me ... ) and if you have any questions ;)!  Thank you so much, by the way,Vancouver rocks! haha.  It does, I'm serious, my third favourite city (Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver...). Heh, anywauy,s thanks!  Also, are you learning any about Edmonton via these articles, if so, what in particular? Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 20:49, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
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== Portland photos on shared.. ==
  
:: No worries, the river and city boundaries will be there. :-) As for borders, I'd prefer them written out; they should be for the district articles anyway. I recommend keeping them as simple (i.e., rectangular) as possible since it makes it easier to describe and follow. I think for one of the Vancouver districts I say the district's borders are 16th Ave to the south, Fir St to west, False Creek in the north and Ontario St to the east. It won't always be that tidy, but it's a good standard to aim for.
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Just checked one photo, and you maked it PD, when the author had released in cc-by-sa. So, just based on the first thing I checked, I don't think you got it right. --[[User:Inas|inas]] 21:51, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
:: BTW, you seem to be stressing a bit about the maps -- don't worry about it. You can have a really strong article without a map. After all, it's pretty easy and cheap to buy a good map for a city, it's not so easy or cheap to buy a good guide to a city like Edmonton.
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:How about now? [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 21:54, 27 May 2009 (EDT).
:: And thanks for the kind words about Vancouver. I'm sure I'll learn lots about Edmonton -- I've only been there once, and that was years ago with my parents on a family vacation. Far too much time was spent at the West Edmonton Mall :( [[User:Shaund|Shaund]] 22:46, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::Hey, Shaund!  Thanks for all, I just think the main article is like really missing the district map.  The borders are pretty simple.  Tomorrow I will put the district borders.  Remember to tell me when you start (I HOPE SOON!) and tell me how you're progressing!  Thanks for all!  I will give you a message probably when I put the borders up:).  I also added you to "nice people on WikiTravel " just clieck user page:)!  Oh so sad that you only saw that horrible, suburban nightmare of a mall.  Next time you definately gotta check out Downtown, Oliver, University, and Whyte Ave areas!  Just look at the travel guide on where to go :P (104th Street downtown, City centre, festivals, the river valley, 112th St., 124th Street, where the bars are, etc. etc.) Thanks!  Reply soon:)!!!!Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 23:24, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::: Cool. I'll look for those district borders. And glad I could make the nice people list... just one small thing (so my wife stops laughing at me): it should be "go to him" (not her)! [[User:Shaund|Shaund]] 01:07, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::Oh sorry, Shaund, that is quite funny.  It was just a typo I'll fix that, heheheheeh!  I'll send you a nice message in your talk and on here for the information (later) today!!!!  Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 10:15, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::::When I get home I'll get all the information ready!  Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 14:09, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 
  
==Welcome message==
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==rajas back!!!==
Hi there. Just a pointer-- when you leave a welcome message for new users, type <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki> instead of just <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki>. Otherwise it literally prints the text "Hello PAGENAME!" instead of inserting their actual username. [[User:Texugo|Texugo]] 20:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
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Hey sorry I just suddenly stopped logging on, went with my cousins to Spain and France, I'll continue helpin the Pakistani related articles, and try to make it one of the best, talk to you guys later [[User:Raja1020|Raja1020]] 15:32, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
:Ok thanks, was just tryin' to help :)!  Also, I thought it was ok, as thats what I got for my begginner!  Keep smiling,  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 20:54, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
 
  
== Regarding Edmonton map ==
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==Stop edit warring==
  
''from your talk page''
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Stop edit warring. You've been told this over and over again. Listen this time. Stop it. [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 01:23, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
Hi, Shaund! It's what you've been waiting for-the information for the Edmonton district's map ahah! I know, I know you were thinking that all-inclusive trip to Miami! NOOO! Haha, anyways, here's all the information:
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: Calm down.  I do listen. Just because I revise an edit on something doesn't mean I'm edit warring. Quit jumping to conclusions. Thank you. [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 01:26, 23 June 2009 (EDT).
  
Edmonton, as you know, is having 8 districts:
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::If someone reverts a change you make, the only option from there is to discuss it.... the minute you re-add or re-delete the information, it becomes an edit war, and does nothing to resolve the disagreement.... it only escalates the situation, and nobody wants that :) &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 05:18, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
  
*Central - bound by: Groat Road in the west from the river until 118th Avenue.  The northern boundaries are 118th Avenue which turns into Kingsway Ave. until 111 Avenue, then the northern border takes a north-south boundary at 118th Ave and 97 St. of 97th Street until the Yellowhhead (16) Highway and that continues it's northern border until Wayne Gretzky Drive.  It's eastern border is Wayne Gretzky Drive between Yellowhead and river.  The southern boundary is the North Saskatchewan River between Groat Road and Wayne Gretzky Drive.
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==Welcome back==
 
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Welcome back. I hope you can make some great contributions to Canadian articles, just remember not to irk the authorities around here. [[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] 15:23, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
*East Central - basically east of the Wayne Gretzky Drive, south of Yellowhead, west of the Highway 216/Anthony Henday Dr. (aka eastern boundaries of the city) and north of the river.  Basically that!
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*Haha, thanksNot sure how much I'll contribute, I was just looking at some things regarding travel and came to the site and noticed some things that could use a little change :).  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 15:27, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
 
 
*South Central - western boundary is the river. Northern boundary is the river until 98 Avenue then that's its norhtern boundary until Connor's Road (Which is rightaway) then at a traffic circle it continues as 83 St.  Oh boy, I just did it's eastern boundary, heh.  Then continuuuing the eastern boudary along 82nd/Whyte Avenue until 75th St. 75th St. until Argyll Road.  Then the southern boundary is Argyll Road which turns into 63 Avenue then joins up with 61 Avenue west of 104th Street/Calgary Trl. Contuinue on that until 113 St.  113 St becomes the border until Belgravia Road/Fox Drive which is the border until Whitemud Drive, which is the border (for a teeeny bit)until the river! Phewph!  Confusing?
 
 
 
*North - start with the southern boundary which begins in the west as Stony Plain Road until Mayfield Road (north-south road)which then turns into 111(west-east) Avenue which is the border until Groat Road which is the border until 118th Avenue that turns into Kingwway Avenue.  Kingsway is then the border until 111 Ave. which is the border until 97th St.  97th is the border until Yellowhead.  Then basically anything north of the Yellowhead is the north end.  It's eastern boundary is the city limits north of the Yellowhead.  Same with the west.  The north aswell.  Just make sure you check the city borders properyl :)!
 
----Phew-four more!
 
*West - the western border is the city limits.  The southern border the same.  The northern boundary is Stony Plain Road until Mayfield Road which turns into 111 Avenue.  That is the border until Groat Road.  Groat Road is the eastern boundary until the river, which finishes off being the eastern border all the way south down to the city limits.
 
 
 
*Southwest - Eastern boundary is 99 St. until Whitemud Drive, which is breif in being the border because at 91 St. that becomes the border.  91 St. is the eastern boundary until Anthony Henday Drive.  Anthony Henday is brefily the boundary until Calgary Trail, which becomes the boundary until the city limits.  Southern borders are the city limits west of Calg. Trail.  Western boundary is the North Saskatchewan River until the Whitemud Drive.  Whitemud breifly becomes border.  Now we're at the northern boder. At Whitemudand Fox Drive, Fox Drive becomes the border which turns into Belgravia Road.  At 113 St., 113 St becomes the border until 61 Avenue.  Which is the border until it meets up with 63 Avenue which is the border until 99 St.
 
 
 
 
 
*East - western boundary is 98th Ave until Connor's Rd.  then at a traffic circle it continues as 83 St.  Then continuing the eastern boudary along 82nd/Whyte Avenue until 75th St. 75th St. until Argyll Road.  Then the southern boundary is Argyll Road which turns into 63 Avenue which is the border until 99 St.  99th is the border until Whitemud Drive.  The southern boundary is north of Whitmud Drive, east of 99th.  The eastern is the city boundaries-I believe Highway 216.  Northern boundary is basically the river until Yellowhead Trl. which is the northern boundary until the eastern city limits. *Sigh*.
 
 
 
*Mill Woods - basically west of 91 Street untilAnthony Henday Drive (highway) which at Calgary Trail, Calgary Trail becomes the western boundary until southern limits.  Southern limits is the southern city limits.  Northern boundary is Whitemud Dr. east of 91 St.  Eastern boundary is city limits.
 
 
 
Ok there, I hhope I was thorough, I was getting tired.  If you have any questions ,remember just ask MIIIII.  Remember to put in the city limits, I would also like you to grey-out Sherwood Park and Saint Albert (municipalities connected) like the Vancouver map ;)!!!!  Also don't forget to PUT IN the river!!!!!!!!  Use online maps or bought maps to help you, aswell!  To help you further, I saved a map from OpenStreetMaps to give you a different perspective, in case the above was somewhat confusing!
 
 
 
[[Image:DistrictsofEdmAB.JPG]]
 
 
 
That one shows just the district borders and their names!!!!!
 
 
 
The one below also shows the roads you should put in v2...I know you won't put the roads in rightaway, but soon after the original version is created, please put the roads in.  The colours I chose for the words of the districts in this one you can use for the colours of the districts, if you feel as if you'd like to!!!!  Here is:
 
[[Image:Roads for eventual map.JPG]]
 
 
 
Just sucks that all the roads in openstreet for Edmonton aren't on there:(!!!!  Anyways, how are yeh?  How long do you think this will take?  One week?  I am thinkin' between one and two weeks.  Thanks again, I really do appreciate it, and I'm sorry not more of them were squary but they just don't fit so I had to put specific borders, but I did tone it down, like now Westmount is apart of the northside instead and Rexall Place is in central now. Now I've done my dutties, remember tot tell me how you're progressing and when you've started.  Thanks, mate!  Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 19:18, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
 
 
 
: Thanks for the detailed borders and maps. They'll help quite a bit.  I'll probably start work on it on the weekend. The whole thing will definitely take more than a week though. Putting down streets is a pain (that Vancouver I map I posted was in the works off and on for three months, for example). [[User:Shaund|Shaund]] 01:01, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::Hey Shaund!  Well, make sure you check your talk page, as I forgot to add some things in here but I did there.  KK?  Anyways thanks for doing this.  So basically 1.5 weeks frum now v1.0 should be out!  Yay...THIS IS SO COOL!  I am glad I could help in any way...make sure if you have questions to please ask!!!!    Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 01:06, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::::TIP: When you start doing the roads, just do the highways then add roads after :)!!!!! Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 01:08, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::Hey Shaund, since you may have missed this in your talk here it is:Also, do you think that I should really give those information to describe the boundaries in the actual pages? A little long...doncha think? I will reserve doing so until you provide an answer as to what you think, so what do you think on the matter? I don't know, Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 12:44, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
 
 
==No problem==
 
Hi WindHorse! I want to thank you for you're ideas in the Travellers' Pub! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast
 
 
 
No problem. Let me know is I can help with anything. [[User:WindHorse|WindHorse]] 00:24, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:Thanks!  Did you check your summary on my userpg?  Like it?  Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 00:27, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::Nope, but I just took a look, but couldn't find it. Anyway, I'm sure it will be fine. Cheers. [[User:WindHorse|WindHorse]] 00:38, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::tRY reloading...theres like a bug.  try that, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 01:00, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::::OK... Got it. Thank you. Now I have the challenge of trying to live up to the epithets. [[User:WindHorse|WindHorse]] 02:03, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::Heh, Keep Smiling [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|Edmontonenthusiast]] 10:24, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Advice on Districts==
 
No, I have no advice on districts :-(  I find places with one article and small towns so much nicer to work on that large cities.  [[Hong Kong]] and [[Macau]] are nice, because the geography forms the districts for you.  Easy to know where everything belongs.  [[Sydney]] is a nightmare, because there are no accepted districts, no natural geography, and the attractions are spread out.  Attractions like [[Sydney#Sydney Harbour|Sydney Harbour]] have no logical single place to put them.  I only work on Sydney Districts after taking a deep breath.  When I need to relax, I update a place like [[Hungerford]]. --[[User:Inas|Inas]] 22:39, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
 

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Re: Hey[edit]

Yep, I noticed.

If I could ask a question: I noticed you consider Walt Disney World to be "tacky", "too crowded", and "overrated". I'm not trying to change your opinion, but I'm curious what you think of our article on the resort, and if any aspects highlighted there appeal to you.

I'm always working to improve that article, and one way to make our coverage of the place stand out would be to try to highlight some of the less-noticed features, things that people don't always think about when they think of Walt Disney World. So what sorts of vacation things do you like to do? Where do you go on vacation? What could we highlight in the WDW article that you might find a little appealing?

Thanks! -- LtPowers 08:48, 16 May 2009 (EDT)

Hi! What I'll do is post this here and on your talk page. I'll also look through it while I write this so I don't miss any of my thoughts and whatnot on the topic.
I'm actually doing the same for Portland (Or), as over the past while I have gotten an increased interest in the city, and will be going to it soon so that's good. I nominated it for DOTM cause I cleaned it up a bit and it seemed worthy. By the time it'd get DOTM I'd be able to upload pics so there will be more pics, and make a map perhaps.
Oh and of course I'm doing it with Edmonton & Alberta.
Anyhow, Walt Disney World. Before I get started I mind as well just say flat out the place doesn't attract me. It seems like more a place for little kids and families instead, and to me just looks tacky and overhype. I don't know, that's just how I feel - but then again I don't go and watch Disney princess on tele.
One thing I do like though is the information really. I love how you give tributes to Walt Disney and fun facts. The Understand section is amazing.
I didn't know there was a parade! Interesting. And one thing you might want to do is a climate graph like in Edmonton. They seem very strict on alcohol. In the food section I wouldn't be so quick to single out mcdonalds. maybe say there are some regular fast food chains but save the actual lists for high quality restaurants / vendors.
For me? You ask? What kind of travelling do I like to do? I like going to cities. Particularily North American ones, although I would not mind Europe. I am a urban planning geek so that would explain that. WDW looks very very suburbanized and concentrated around the highway, which I hate. I am very antisuburbs, so thats another thing that bothers me about it. Maybe if they have transit going to it, that would be a good thing to highlight. I don't really like warm cities either. Miami, Los Angeles, Honolulu, Las Vegas, Abuquerque, Phoenix, and Tampa barely interest me. San Diego is an exception, as is Texas. I like northern cities, with 4 seasons, and seem to feel more "older" I guess, although the southern cities are also old just in a different way. Rustbelt, New England, East Coast, North midwestern, Pacific Northwest, and NoCal areas of the US I like. In Canada, almost anywhere interests me, as long as it's cities. Montréal, Fredricton, Thunder Bay, Toronto, etc. I like sort of former communist countries in Europe like Germany, Poland, and Russia just cause it would be interesting to see socialism instead of capitalism, although I'd never live in those places even though they are democratic now. I like the places that either had a big influence by English or the place influenced English. So Belgium, Germany, Holland, Denmark, and Sweden interest me. Scadinavia as a whole seems pretty cool. I'd rather go to New York than Yellowstone, or Sydney than Everest, or Tokyo over the Coral Reef, or Houston over WDW basically. I don't like suburban cities at all. Maybe if WDW has a more "urban sector", although I doubt it does that would be cool to highlight. Orlando as a whole seems very suburbanized. Nearby Tampa too. And Jacksonville. Nearest would be Miami I guess or Atlanta.
Does that help? If not please let me know, or if you need more information or just a general comment please don't hesitate to reply. I'd actually like a reply, but ya don't haveto. Thankyou. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 22:15, 16 May 2009 (EDT).
Hey, thanks for your thoughts. No need to copy it in two places, I'll find it. =) You seem very well grounded in reality, so I can see that a fantastic place like Walt Disney World wouldn't appeal to you. Makes sense. LtPowers 09:10, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
Alright. No problems about telling. Did you like any of my suggestions? BTW - I appreciate all the work youve put into WDW aside from me not liking it. It's a good article. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 13:35, 17 May 2009 (EDT).
Oh sure, I'm going to see what I can do. LtPowers 07:54, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
Urban planning? It's a little hobby of mine also, although, I see some very urban features in WDW myself. Consider that from morning to dusk, that the average population on any given day of the year is 50,000 and the economics of the parks surpass that of many of the nation's cities also. My interest in urban planning varies from socio-economic to military inspired. If I was an urban planner in Warsaw at the end of World War II, I would have designed small streets around government buildings, designed buildings that were being constructed alongside the major arteries of the city to collapse in a certain way, if demolished, so that an invading army would be unable to use the roads to transport troops, equipment, or supplies via trucks or cars. -- Sapphire(Talk) • 08:10, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

Calgary[edit]

No, it's not OK. You can delete the content when you're ready to replace it. There is no "soon". Gorilla Jones 16:13, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Well if you must know I was just re editing it. I don't think its a big deal waiting 20 minutes for it to be re changed. I was doing it so I remember later. I don't see the big deal. I'll revert your edit (again), but don't revert it, as right after, like I was doing, I'll be editing it, ok? edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 16:16, 23 May 2009 (EDT).

EE, even if you think you're right, don't repeatedly revert. That's what got you blocked before. Edit wars are not made "okay" by good intent; they are simply a description of what is happening when people revert back and forth repeatedly. Always discuss before reverting something someone else reverted. LtPowers 17:04, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Also, it's great that you're re-writing it. But just let the current text sit there meanwhile instead of deleting it. First, this helps if you get a Real Life distraction which prevents you from finishing right away since you can just handle Real Life first, then come back where you left off. Second, it makes it easier to see what's going on when doing a diff in the history. Thanks. -- Colin 17:24, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks. The tips help, will try to implent them later. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 22:00, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
Whenever I have undertaken edits that cannot be completed in one session, I work on a text document and later copy and paste the completed version. In this way, others can still access the original information. Hope that is helpful. WindHorse 22:07, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Yes! edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 22:08, 23 May 2009 (EDT).

This also applies to Edmonton (and all articles), it's best to not delete info until the moment you are replacing it with a better version. Leaving edit summaries are also very helpful in letting people know the reasoning behind your edits, especially when they are significant. Are you planning to restore a lot of that info that you just re-deleted from Edmonton's history section? Colin already restored it once yesterday. It certainly needs a rewrite, but there's a lot of useful info in there – cacahuate talk 18:16, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
I've started rewritting it, I got up to WWII, the rest won't take long. Actually cacahuate I need your help! edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 18:26, 24 May 2009 (EDT).

rewrites[edit]

Hey there EE, so please please pretty please.... when you are planning to rewrite something, replace the old text with the new in a single edit.... some examples are here and here. Deleting info like this with future plans to rewrite, even 10 minutes in the future, is not the right way to go. If you need time to rewrite it, work on a word doc, or create a page in your userspace where you can copy the article to and work on it there however you wish. Thank you! – cacahuate talk 18:44, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

Yeah no I understand I'm sorry, I could create a sandbox. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 18:47, 25 May 2009 (EDT).

Portland photos on shared..[edit]

Just checked one photo, and you maked it PD, when the author had released in cc-by-sa. So, just based on the first thing I checked, I don't think you got it right. --inas 21:51, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

How about now? edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 21:54, 27 May 2009 (EDT).

rajas back!!![edit]

Hey sorry I just suddenly stopped logging on, went with my cousins to Spain and France, I'll continue helpin the Pakistani related articles, and try to make it one of the best, talk to you guys later Raja1020 15:32, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Stop edit warring[edit]

Stop edit warring. You've been told this over and over again. Listen this time. Stop it. Gorilla Jones 01:23, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

Calm down. I do listen. Just because I revise an edit on something doesn't mean I'm edit warring. Quit jumping to conclusions. Thank you. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 01:26, 23 June 2009 (EDT).
If someone reverts a change you make, the only option from there is to discuss it.... the minute you re-add or re-delete the information, it becomes an edit war, and does nothing to resolve the disagreement.... it only escalates the situation, and nobody wants that :) – cacahuate talk 05:18, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

Welcome back[edit]

Welcome back. I hope you can make some great contributions to Canadian articles, just remember not to irk the authorities around here. AHeneen 15:23, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

  • Haha, thanks. Not sure how much I'll contribute, I was just looking at some things regarding travel and came to the site and noticed some things that could use a little change :). edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 15:27, 10 April 2010 (EDT)