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Well done[edit]

This is hugely useful information, thanks for putting it together. It's late so I haven't gone through listings in any detail, but did notice that the Motel 6 URL for the Walnut Creek location is longer than it needs to be. The "&state=CA&full=California&city=Walnut%20Creek" portion is superflous. Not a big deal, but it looks like you may already be trimming URLs somewhat, so that's one more bit that can be trimmed. -- Wrh2 03:59, 21 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Heh. It means that Motel 6 actually links to that excessively long name from within their website. I really don't understand why they do stuff like that. -- Colin 04:10, 21 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Is that you, or a spammer?[edit]

I notice that the Albuquerque article, on which I work from time to time, has recently sprouted some hotel listings for the Amerisuites chain that strike me as odd (they copy language straight from the chain's web sites, for example). I tend to conclude that this is the work of a spammer or busybody low-level marketing executive (there's a difference??), and am leaning toward a revert, but I could also imagine this as a consequence of your hotelmaker project under some conditions. Could you confirm that you have/have not been messing around with Amerisuites? You might check out that page to see what concerns me.

Whatever your answer, it strikes me that the hotelmaker idea will have to be approached very carefully, lest stuff like this become widespread. Uncritically copying in hotel information, regardless of where it comes from, runs the risk of some real fleabags getting "recommended." (I've stayed in one of the Amerisuites mentioned there, and no way would I ever recommend it to any but the most desperate traveler.) Or do you have some prophylaxis in mind? -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:11, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)

Your reply received, and I think, understood. I've edited the Albuquerque Amerisuites listings; you might stop by and have a look.
The danger in all this, which the Amerisuites invasion exemplifies, is that the goal of getting real, traveler-validated content on these places may get lost under an avalanche of propaganda. The shills can pile on the advertising blat a lot faster than we who've been to the places can clean it up. It's good to hear that you're intending, or using, an opinion filter. Would that the advertisers were so considerate! -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:41, 9 Nov 2005 (EST)


This has sparked my interest and I have a couple of questions?

  • Can us lay people use this?
  • If so, how?
  • How did you come up with the idea for this?

-Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 03:18, 31 May 2006 (EDT)

items removed for negative reviews[edit]

> Keep track of which entries have been inserted into articles so as to avoid re-adding them later if someone deletes them (see Wikitravel:Avoid negative reviews).

Maybe it's better to introduce policy for any item removed for negative opinions to be placed into article's Talk page, with the last edition of review before the deletion (and if it's not negative, with reasons for removal)? --DenisYurkin 16:33, 2 February 2008 (EST)