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Hello, Binbin !
Thank you for your interesting contributions to our Malaysia article!
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Add your home town, or a place you know well or write some insider tips - but don't use first person pronouns.
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I take it this edit results from direct observation rather than hearsay?
Thank you for your kind words, Binbin! Being a Rome resident myself (and annoyed by the inaccuracies which one can find in most guidebooks) I decided to put my skills to good use...
Miami- South Beach
Hello Binbin, I noted your edits to the tours of South Beach; however, if you believe an independent traveler could provide the same experience for themselves, I'm going to have to assume you've never been to South Beach.
There is no possible way a traveler can independently walk around South Beach and fulfill the substance of either tour on their own. There are no guide signs, no plaques, or anything else of that nature in the city. It is a disservice to travelers to remove tours that they are unable to replicate on their own.
Assuming they can get the information from the Wikitravel page is incorrect. At this point the history of Miami Beach is so far off that is is embarrassing. For example, there was never any 'unsettled farmland' in Miami Beach. When the Lums (who were a father and son, not brothers) arrived in Miami Beach to farm coconuts (which wasn't until 1882,) the land was a mangrove forest that they had to clear. The Lums never left any land to John Collins, Collins never came to Miami in 1894 (the Lums project was still going on into 1895!) and when he did come it wasn't to expand the land or find fresh water. The Lummus brothers (who are not mentioned by name in the article) bought land from Charles Lum, not John Collins. Carl Fisher never took over the Collins Bridge project from John Collins, he loaned him the money, and in return Collins gave Fisher land in Miami Beach; which is how he (Fisher) got his start there. South Beach is not an incorporated town, Miami Beach is. South Beach was a ghetto in the 80's, as well as into the 90's. The Mariel Boatlift had a huge impact on Miami, including the beach. The designation of the Art Deco historic district, architectural elements, and architects themselves are also nowhere to be found.
It's definitely mind boggling that we need to provide a link to a Kenneth Cole store (I guess visitors can't find that independently?) but assume they can figure out the history and significance of South Beach on their own. --DNevens (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2014 (EDT)
Hi Binbin, thanks for your message. I'll definitely keep adding to the wiki as my travels progress. If you want to see where my wife and I have been, you can check out our blog policies and guidelines :-) - OoDoh6ei (talk) 02:08, 5 April 2014 (EDT)
Your edit on food tours
Thank you for your suggestion, but food tours are actually value-added service (since most food tours bring visitors to local restuarants that are not touristy adjusted). You can see that food tours are listed on many wiki travel pages
The list of food walks are very common across Wikitravel pages.
Thank you for the welcome message. I'm quite new to wikitravel and to confluence type of projects, so please bear with me if I make any mistakes... I'm a fast learner though :)
Please do not edit lake toba get in,because this information about transport very important to traveller who comes to lake toba,especially our country indonesia,please help our area about information for they trip,because to lake toba hard to find information about transport.thank you—The preceding comment was added by Indomaret (talk • contribs)
Answer STILL needed
One specific question and one general question
Hello. I noticed that you edited this edit made by another user yesterday. Indeed, initially he linked the hostel name to the secondary source but then corrected himself and changed the secondary source to the hostel's facebook page. That was done because the hostel's web page is turned off now, probably permanently. Many companies are switching from regular web pages to the facebook, both business and government/municipality institutions, among them branches of Tourism Department. It's some sort of recent trend. And back to that hostel - their e-mail address is changed to the new Gmail address, this has certain merits for small business. So, some of hostel staff or some of visitors tried to correct this listing. You reverted it - and now external link does not work again, and the e-mail does not work again. My specific question: although it looks like it was linked to the secondary source, it actually wasn't, so no violations were made. May i bring back the edits of that another user? I prefer not to bother and if there are some other reasons to support your edit i'll easily agree, but so far it looks senseless. I'd like to hear you reply. It's extremely uncomfortable to revert admin's edit :) .
And my second question is general: it's rather common (at least in LT) that regular web pages disappear and companies are switching to Facebook, or to some more general domestic web sites that may look like a secondary source but actually it is the only one (and primary) source. I don't mean eg "Booking" or any similar international web site, i mean either facebook or some domestic websites that carry several (say) hotels/hostels/guesthouses descriptions and work as some sort of a board for those who has no their separate account or web page. I predict that i will make such corrections to the existing listings and some admins will revert them. I came across this several times. May i revert them every time, indicating that this is not a secondary source or something? I want to avoid unnecessary misunderstandings. So would my (or anyone else's) such edits and reverts be acceptable? Or should i behave in some different way in order to avoid misunderstandings in the future (then what is that way)? I simply don't dare to "touch" the incomprehensible edits made by admins and do leave them "as is" although they mislead the travelers/readers. --Local (talk) 12:15, 4 April 2015 (EDT)
Around the world in 80 days
I removed much of the content for the get in to New York because it was much too detailed. Every bit of information for the options of getting to or between the airports was provided. A user only needs a general overview of how to get there. The transportation to the starting airport should not be the main section. New York is a good place to start this journey, but not the only one in the world. Also, it seemed as if this long section was copied directly from the get in section of the New York City article. --Kfinger (talk) 14:10, 18 May 2015 (PDT)
Question about deleted post.
thanks for contacting me about my post on Usti nad Labem. However, I still dont understand fully why you deleted it? How does it not fit in with the site policies? I had only put in a few lines because I wanted to see if it worked and had planned to add to it later. The nearby, smaller city of Decin has a page. As Usti is recovering from a lot of economic hardship and beginning to promote tourism and has at least enough things to keep a traveller busy for a long weekend, I thought it would be good to for it to have a wikitravel page. If you can let me know what was wrong and if you have nay other tips for writing my first page I'd be grateful. cheers,
Deleted page - Pic la Selle
Binbin - I thought that Pic La Selle should have its own page because it is an exception to the rule that sites should not have their own page because it is too far away from the nearest city for a day trip and requires an overnight stay. As the highest mountain in a country known for its mountains, it is also worthy of its own page.
I've been trying to add the USE-IT Brussels tour to the wikitravel Brussels page, and the item keeps being removed. Ik believe it makes sense to add it because it's an atypical project that avoids the tourists traps and encourages young people to go discover different, more unknown parts of Brussels.
Deletion of Draganac Monastery article
Hello I recently added an article about Draganac and I saw that you deleted it. I'm a new contributor and after reading the rules I can understand how the monastery may not fit into the guidelines for an article. I was wondering if I could by any chance retrieve the information I wrote on the monastery so I could post the information in a more relevant manner? For example should I instead post my article for Draganac under the article for the nearby city of Gnjlane? —The preceding comment was added by Pitaifli (talk • contribs)
I noticed the reference to touting in relation to a contribution about Buddha Belly Tours / Restaurant on Cat Ba. They are very distinct offerings however I can see that it may stand out on a page with not a large amount of content, so accept it should be in one category.
Are you happy with the 'do' section to include:
Hello Binbin, I have just noticed that you deleted the picture that I post on http://wikitravel.org/en/Ha_Giang. Can I have the reason why? Thanks a lot.
Hi! In warning https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/ukraine-travel-warning.html there is no mention of Kharkiv. kharkiv and Ukraine in general except parts occupied by russsa is much more safe then in France or USA now. Oleksii (talk) 00:25, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
Questions and issues
I'm new here, and I haven't gotten much experience into using wikidot, but I've been a guest visitor and never edit articles without accounts, but I have a few or couple things to bring up, since you're the admin:
There's some articles that don't have this red "WARNING" box on them, but some are still placed under that category, like for example, the city article Moscow, doesn't have a red box on the page, but is still labelled as "Articles with Warnings" and there isn't a red warning box for any reason, why?
I can see one a few pages (IE: the note where there is a notice regarding the Zika outbreak) on some pages, but should they be under a different category, such as "Articles with notices" rather than Articles with Warnings, since there are some articles that have only the yellow notice box and some do not use the actual red warning box (Though Articles with notices doesn't exist, Articles with Warnings does)?
Also to ask, should the Zika outbreak articles, should they use the red warning box instead rather than the yellow one? As for policy, should all material regarding travel to cities or countries be sourced before any material is posted or warnings are posted (IE: If a country gets a travel warning from a specific country (US state travel), that travel warning stays on the wikitravel site until the travel caution or warning is removed from the official website that actually placed the warning.
For example, if Saudi Arabia gets a travel warning from the state.gov website, that should be placed with a warning box on the page here, but when that warning gets removed from the site, should it be removed from their site, or should it stay for as long as possible?
I have one request to ask you, do you have a article on the Zika outbreak, I have a medical app that can provide information regarding the Zika outbreak and it might prove useful, but do you have a article regarding the Zika outbreak?
Let me know if you have a article for that.
Travel Warning information
Should the following pages have travel warnings added?
Quick questions: Should political alerts count? travel.state.gov adds alerts when it comes to short term political events that are temporary, should they not be added when it comes to the articles here? If not, should they be added as a note or a caution box?)
Saudi Arabia (USA has one updated this month as of recent, due to new continued terrorist attacks) Turkey (travel.state.gov has added a travel warning due to terrorist attacks, warns about the southeastern part of Turkey specifically) Haiti (The Department of State has issued this Travel Warning to inform U.S. citizens traveling to or living in Haiti about the lack of adequate emergency medical facilities, and the security environment in Haiti.) Bangladesh (The Department of State warns U.S. citizens to consider carefully whether you need to travel to Bangladesh, in light of the latest attack in a series of extremist events.) Venezuela (The Department of State warns U.S. citizens that violent crime in Venezuela is pervasive, both in the capital Caracas and throughout the country.)
A couple of the articles already have a caution regarding the Zika outbreak, what can we do with those if we add a red warning box to the pages that already have a caution regarding the Zika virus? Haiti and Venezuela have a yellow caution box, but should we add the warning box above it, below it, or in the "Stay Safe" section, whichever section is appropriate for the country and the reason why it was given that warning in the first place?
Linking to map service
Hello Binbin! Thanks for reviewing my changes. You removed my links to multi-page printable PDF maps of two locations (at the bottom of their Understand sections). I believe these can be very useful to travellers, and I don't see how this kind of content can be included in Wikitravel directly. The links are not to Google Maps or other online map tools. They are to a free PDF resource. Why did you remove them? I did look at the Maps section on the External Links page, and tried to restart the discussion there. Full disclosure: I'm the developer of this service. Kontextify (talk) 09:33, 14 October 2016 (EDT)
Hi Binbin How to write street art to be an article? I have to change to topic 'street art in bangkok' right? Because I think street art is one of places to travel. I write this article for guide photography to see treet art in Bangkok. Teaypvrn (talk) 06:45, 15 November 2016 (EST)
It is ILLEGAL in the City of Berwyn, Illinois for adults to talk to minors even with the parents' permission.
And only someone who says; It's a capital felony under Federal law, FBI and Homeland Security enforced, yes, even carrying a minimum sentence of even 6,000 years and more to life without parole, mandatory castration, mandatory requirement to register as a sex offender and even being forbidden to live within less than 75 miles of a school, church, park, playground, or any place where minors congregate and/or the death penalty to have even casual interactions with minors, or even if casual interactions with minors were grounds for an immediate military air strike, would dare remove a warning that it is illegal under municipal law for adults to interact with minors even with the okay from the parents and even if the minor initiated first interaction! Like in other words, Sgt. Gerald Conoboy of the Berwyn Police Department should have just ordered immediate full Martial law and ordered an immediate carpet bombing military air strike on me in 2000 as well as a full military lockdown of the entire continent of North America (USA, Canada, and Mexico) because I was visiting friends still enrolled at Morton West High School! And like in other words, Conoboy needs to learn to immediately carpet bomb and take down, full RPG attack, any adult even seen outdoors within the entire City of Berwyn on school days!
Conoboy TOLD me, POINT BLANK; It is ILLEGAL in the City of Berwyn for adults 18 and older to have ANY type of social interactions AT ALL with anyone 17 and younger! Even friendly interactions between adults 18 and older and minors 17 and younger are illegal in the City of Berwyn, Illinois, even if it NEVER gets into something sexual! And even if it is okay with the minor's parents! The ONLY exception is if the minor is the adult's son or daughter. Conoboy also told me, point blank, that the ENTIRE area bordered by 16th Street on the north, East Avenue on the east, 31st street on the south, and Harlem Avenue on the west is a restricted area on school days! He told me that NO adults are allowed outdoors within that area on school days unless on public transit or unless the adults are parents picking up their children from school. Scuzz (talk) 19:43, 11 December 2016 (EST)
Question regarding "tout" warning
You recently left a message on our user page that said not to tout, and you linked to this rule on the "Don't tout" page: http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Don%27t_tout#Don.27t_list_the_same_place_many_times
However, we have never added the same exact place twice; we are adding separate hotels on the corresponding city pages. Can you please explain which guidelines we are breaching? We have read the guidelines very carefully and have made sure we complied with all of them.