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This is a good idea, but surely newer news should come first, and older stuff is then moved into the archives later? Compare WikiPedia:Current events.

Also, should we adopt Wikipedia's style and have daily headings, or keep 'threads' together? The daily heading style has the major advantage of being easier to maintain, but it's a little harder to follow (esp. without links into full articles). Jpatokal 09:18, 3 Jan 2005 (EST)


Please check Wikinews for international news stories; and contribute ones you don't see there. Content on Wikinews is currently all public domain. Sj 14:49, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

Is this a slippery slope?

I'm wondering -- is publishing daily travel news really part of our goals? I don't know if it's really helping us create a travel guide. Could someone put me straight? --Evan 18:46, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

I don't think it does any harm... cf. also LP's Travel Ticker. But I think the news here should be kept short, with links to Google News or Wikinews or whatever for the full scoop. Jpatokal 21:17, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)
The sort of news that I see as going here seem to be news items that would affect travel and tourism directly or be of significant interest to travelers, but isn't covered by Wikitravel in other ways. Natural and man-made events that cause unexpected travel disruptions could be candidates as well as stories that affect the traveler's experience. What is there so far is probably the range of things that should be covered.
Although I wouldn't expect a daily news story. I would also like to see positive or good news stories like Tourists Wanted:Thailand tourist industry has recovered from Tsunami and other such news that says the disaster in the other month's news has been overcome and travel is not disrupted any more. These sorts of we're baaaack stories are not carried by other news outlets. -- Huttite 22:37, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

France riots overstated in English Language press

Hey, I see that news of the riots in French public housing have been added to our travel news section, as it should be. I think though that we would be doing a service to travellers to point out that the impact on travellers is pretty much nil, and that the reports on English language media have been vastly overstated. I was in Paris the nights of the very worst riots, and saw nothing. And I was on a terrace in the 11th, which is in the quarter of the city toward the suburbs where the riots were.

I'm having trouble figuring out a tone for expressing this in the necessarily tiny main page blurb though. How's this: "State of Emergency in France over youth riots in remote public housing sites. Eng.-lang press goes berserk." -- Mark 06:46, 9 Nov 2005 (EST)

"Travellers not affected" for the last bit would be more informative, no? Jpatokal 07:51, 9 Nov 2005 (EST)

OK, so let's either do this or not

I've just updated the Travel News with a couple of stories today which were not huge gigantic headline stories and covered ad infinitum everywhere else. I would like to suggest that tomorrow somebody follow in my footsteps. It's easy: use the google news search to find stories of general travel interest. Read some of them. If it seems fairly important put it on the travel page.

I think that this could be an interesting and useful feature, but it absolutely needs to be updated more often.

If in a couple of days the stories I've just posted are still the most recent stories then I will yank the Travel News section off of the main page simply because there is nothing worse for a website than out-of-date "news".

So travel news supporters: get busy. -- Mark 10:35, 1 Dec 2005 (EST)

I've suggested this before, but it has to be made easier to update the news somehow, the code is a horrible mess and you need to be quite the Wiki-guru to manage it. Only problem is that templating it will be tough because of the three-column format... Jpatokal 11:40, 1 Dec 2005 (EST)
Another option would be to re-use Wikinews content... but alas, they've recently switched from PD to CC by-sa 2.5. Sigh. Of course, it might not be that bad to have the travel news under a mildly different license, because they're highly unlikely to be included in actual printed guides. Jpatokal 11:49, 1 Dec 2005 (EST)
I have to say I took a short-lived stab at adding news everyday, needless to say after breaking the main page 3 or 4 times I actually gave up. I'm happy to keep adding stuff to the travel news page if someone else adds it to the main page (and bumps the old). I dont think getting / writing the news is the problem at all, just the adding to the main page. I'll have another go at it... Majnoona 14:17, 1 Dec 2005 (EST)
I've added stuff here, but I am scared to add it to the main page. Bad things happened to me the last time I tried. --Ravikiran 12:44, 4 Dec 2005 (EST)
I've updated some more, but if others aren't interested, I think we are better off yanking it. It is not a good idea to rely on the sporadic enthusiasm of 1 or 2 people. At least, we should de-emphasise it on the main page. Just link to the headlines or something. --Ravikiran 13:05, 7 Dec 2005 (EST)
I really think the key is making the news easier to update -- but it would need a bot of some sort to automatically rotate out the older stuff, and this really isn't very high on my list of priorities right now. Jpatokal 21:29, 7 Dec 2005 (EST)