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Talk:Southern California/Hierarchy

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Southern California, for Wikitravel, is a region in the southwest of California. It encompasses Los Angeles and San Diego, as well as all the cities in that area.


  • West: Pacific Ocean (but Santa Catalina Island and the Channel Islands are included)
  • North: The Grapevine on highway 5, and that part of highway 101 where it leaves the coast north of Santa Barbara
  • South: The Mexican border
  • East: The Inland Empire, although I'm not sure what the traditional border for this is

Here's a hierarchy for the region. Note that we don't normally do this kind of hierarchical list thing for articles -- it looks terrible, and isn't really useful -- but it can help us hash stuff out.

  • Southern California <region>
    • Santa Barbara area <region> (name for this)
      • Santa Barbara <city>
      • Carpenteria <city>
      • Goleta <city>
      • Isla Vista <city>
      • Channel Islands <city>
    • Ventura County <region>
      • Ventura <city>
      • Oxnard <city>
    • North Bay (Southern California) <region>
      • Malibu <city>
      • Santa Monica <city>
      • Venice Beach <city>
    • South Bay (Southern California) <region>
      • Manhattan Beach <city>
      • Hermosa Beach <city>
      • Torrance <city>
      • Palos Verdes <city>
    • San Fernando Valley <region>
      • Encino <city>
      • etc.
    • Los Angeles central area <region> (name for this needed)
      • Los Angeles <huge city>
        • Los Angeles/Downtown <district>
    • Channel Islands <park with all the islands>
      • Santa Catalina Island <region>
        • Avalon <city>
      • Two Harbors <city>
    • Orange County <region>
      • Beach Cities (Orange County) <region>
        • Huntington Beach <city>
        • etc.
    • San Diego County <region>
      • San Diego <city>
      • Ensenitas <city>

OK, just go ahead and edit that, adding and removing cities and regions. We'll give this a try. -- Evan 12:07, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)

Wow you work quick!Ron 12:16, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)

I removed the high desert; I think that stuff goes in Desert (California). -- Evan 12:18, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)
Also, I think the Inland Empire (California) is it's own region, outside Southern California. See California#Regions for the ones I listed there. -- Evan 12:20, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)
Wow! I just went searching on google to see other sites' listings of California regions. Look how close we are to the Open Directory's! Not really cogent for Southern California discussion, but still. -- Evan 12:27, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)
Hmm, ok i think i see how its structured now. But you would get some diagreement that the Inland Empire is not in Southern California. I also dont think that it would hurt to included the desert region in southern california along with the california section. Its your call. Im gonna read some more before i start adding templates to these. Ron 12:34, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)