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Talk:Santa Fe (New Mexico)

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I moved this article to conform with our Wikitravel:article naming conventions. -- Evan 17:40, 4 Sep 2003 (PDT)

I've started populating the "Eat" section, but it needs a lot of work. Santa Fe is an absolutely extraordinary place for dining and my own experiences here, despite living in the area for close to 30 years, barely scratch the surface. Please add stuff if you can. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 17:33, 23 Sep 2005 (EDT)


Per our earlier discussion, I like the way this article is coming along and think it might eventually be a candidate for Destination of the Month. One of the DOTM requirements is that the article have a couple of good photos -- doesn't have any non-GFDL images for Santa Fe that I could find, so does anyone else know a source for CC-SA Santa Fe images? -- Ryan 00:12, 29 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Yahoo CC, Commons, Flikr Most of them are CC-2.0, but you can probably get permission for CC-1.0. --elgaard 15:10, 29 Sep 2005 (EDT)


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Uh, Ryan, why that last revert to the Santa Fe page? I actually made the reverted change myself. I just wasn't on a computer that I could easily login from (was traveling this weekend to check a few things out and used somebody else's comp while on the road). The "teenager, not much to do" verbiage long pre-dated my work on that page and is much at odds with other things on it, but I wanted to leave the earlier poster's remarks about movie houses, etc.

Meanwhile, I got a connection to some photos that I think will top the thing off. Will apply them as soon as the guy who promised them gets home and sends me mail. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:00, 2 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Just a mistake on my part. I didn't notice that there were any content changes, and just saw a formatting change by an anonmyous user. The new list format didn't look quite right to me, so I reverted it. Normally lists are of the form:
  • Item1. Description of item1.
  • Item2. Description of item2.
Since this list seemed more like paragraphs I reverted. I've since un-reverted, so your changes are back. Sorry for the confusion. -- Ryan 21:12, 2 Oct 2005 (EDT)
No prob. I agree that the new format doesn't "look quite right," but I am searching for a tactful way to include what the earlier contributor said (minus the "not much to do" part) within the framework of the overall article. It's not always a smooth fit, but one would prefer to be inclusive. Incidentally, I've added a bunch of other stuff on "Festivals" (hopefully following the standard format :-) ); would appreciate your critique. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:51, 2 Oct 2005 (EDT)
Format is far less important than content (IMHO) - anyone can edit a page to fix format, but only someone who knows the destination can add useful content, so don't get too over-concerned with formatting. That said, I cleaned up a few items (mostly lodging and a couple of restaurants) to more closely conform to the Wikitravel:Restaurant listings and Wikitravel:Accomodation listings.
Format comments aside, I really like the way the content of this article is developing - you're giving a great insider view to the city, with food, lodging and activity suggestions that cater to all manner of traveler. From what I've heard about Santa Fe the festivals, rodeos and fairs are a really big deal and something that are uniquely Santa Fe, so I think it's fine the way you've set them up. This article is definitely one that I would use when visiting, so thanks in advance of any future travels. -- Ryan 01:17, 3 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Sunrise Springs revert

Note to whoever put in the Sunrise Springs mention: thanks, it's a place that truly deserves mention, but it was already in there (under Sleep/Splurge). I've done the revert. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 19:43, 20 Oct 2005 (EDT)


For completeness, this article should have a "Drink" section, but I am unqualified to write it. Anybody want to have a go? -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:16, 3 Dec 2005 (EST)

Inappropriate links

I rolled back links for an interior designer and what looked like a software company. I'm not sure what use they would be to the traveler. --Evan 19:57, 8 Dec 2005 (EST)

Usable, not Guide

So, I realize this article is up for Wikitravel:Destination of the month, but we need a lot of work on it. In particular, most of the listings aren't in the format required for Wikitravel:attraction listings, Wikitravel:restaurant listings, Wikitravel:accommodation listings, etc. I think we need to have at least addresses and phone numbers, and preferably some price range for maybe 50-60% of the listings. Opening hours would be good, too. I think a lot of these listings have links, so non-New-Mexicans can chip in and add info. I'll take a poke at a few of the listings.

I'm sorry to be a downer, and I'm probably being too strict, but I think this article needs some polish before calling it a real guide. --Evan 12:25, 16 Dec 2005 (EST)

I take that back: on closer review most of these listings do have an address. I'm going to change this back to a guide. --Evan 13:02, 16 Dec 2005 (EST)
I see what you've been doing with the museums, etc., and basically like it. However, you've introduced a couple of errors that I'll fix later -- some subtle stuff connected with passes and Museum Hill. Santa Fe is a very "non-linear" place and any attempt to make a linear, hierarchical description of some of its features is a challenge... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 13:05, 16 Dec 2005 (EST)


There are several subtleties to the museums that I have tried to capture in the current (23:32 16 Dec 05) version of the text. If you're planning on any surgery to these, please give me a heads-up beforehand and I'll try to help; seemingly reasonable prose can turn out to be misleading if you're not careful. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 00:37, 17 Dec 2005 (EST)