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Quite impressive list. But do you really carry your credit card(s) and its/their PIN code in one place? One crucial advice: don't. I know what I'm talking about; I've been robbed in Brazil (and nearly robbed in Indonesia). They never got my cards and my PIN codes together. DhDh 01:47, 11 Feb 2004 (EST)

I fail to see the reason for a lot of these. Some I don't even know what are:

  • Invitation letter: Who's inviting whom to what?
  • Marriage certificate: Why?
  • Other documents: Which ones?
  • Sweater: This depends on where you're going.
  • Tidbits or polo: What kind of tidbits? I don't play polo, so why should I bring it?
  • Pocket knife: This is likely to be confiscated at the airport.
  • Torch: I'm not a welder, so why should I carry one?
  • Chess: Chess isn't a video game, and what does a cell phone have to do with either?
  • Collar bones: Hopefully these are in your shoulders, not in your sewing kit!
  • Inhaler/roll on/nasal spray: This is a contradiction in terms.

-phma 21:18, 10 Feb 2004 (EST)

Thanks a ton, Some of these are specific brand names available in India. Updated the list with clarifications, take a look. -Sridhar 18:10, 11 Feb 2004 (IST)

So, I like this idea, but I'm worried that it may be hard to do a generic packing list. After all, if I'm going to climb Denali, I need an ice axe more than I need an IDP. Can we do this in a way that's applicable to all travelers' needs? Or should we do different lists for different destinations/activities/types of travel? --Evan 02:13, 11 Feb 2004 (EST)

It would make sense to me that locations that have special travel needs should be noted in a "Packing List" or "Don't Forget..." section to an article. -- Yosemite 03:33, 11 Feb 2004 (EST)

Would suggest different packing lists for different activities. I once ended up in Palani (a smalltown in TamilNadu, India) without soap and towel! I was used to staying in business class hotels and never found a reason to carry these and expected to stay in one such hotel in Palani. In the hotel I stayed 'running hot water' was a luxury! So expecting the hotel to provide soap and towel was stupid. I made it a point to add these to my packing list once I returned. -Sridhar 10:25, 11 Feb 2004 (IST)

UK English torch = US english flashlight by the way. Polos are mints here if that helps. Caroline 20:59, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

I think this needs lots - including what not to bring, cultural sensitivities etc. One bit of advice from tourist watching in London is don't broadcast where you come from by your clothes. Certainly don't wear anything national/political. Don't have day bags that only open behind you. Don't have large cameras out at all times. Massive rucksacks on your back in crowded areas is a no no. Is this too patronising? Caroline 21:30, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

As much as I alway think "common sense isn't all that common" it's kinda hard to imagine that most travellers don't know at least the basics ("pack clothing for the weather you'll encounter" "Dont walk down empty dark alleys with money stuck to your forehead").
I'm also starting to think that this article is too general to be really usefull. There's a Arriving in a new city article that has a related article Tips for travel in developing countries, maybe all of these need to be rethought to be more useful for specific types of trips? There's a big difference between packing for a weekend in LA than a 6 month budget trip to India...

So I've modified the list a little bit. I think it has the following use for travellers: you can print it out, cross off the stuff you aren't taking, and use it as a reference while packing. Speaking as someone on their first major overseas trip, I know that I've deeply regretted not packing some of the things I've listed as Essential and Very useful ;) -- Hypatia 08:24, 6 Nov 2004 (EST)

Making your own packing list

Often someone goes through this article and deletes tons of stuff to make the packing list into a list that only has stuff that is useful to them. We don't want that -- we want the list to be universally usable, and each traveller is expected to rewrite the list for themselves. But please don't rewrite it here! Instead, please copy the text of the article into Word and edit it there instead. Alternatively, create a login and make a sandbox page (for example, I have a sandbox at User:Cjensen/sandbox). Copy this article's text into your sandbox and edit it there instead.

If you have already made this mistake and we then removed your changes, here's how to get a copy your old version so you can print it or work on it some more: go to the article web page. Click 'history' which will bring up a list of all old versions. Click on the last version you edited, and your last version of the list will come up. Now cut and paste your old stuff to Word or whatever and work on it there.

Thanks! -- Colin 15:24, 24 Sep 2005 (EDT)

I'm sorry, but I think you're kidding yourself if you think this list is "universally usable". It's not, and it never will be... the whole premise of a universal packing list is unworkable. If you try to make it useful for everyone, it becomes useless for anyone, because what's "essential" for one person going to one place is "useless" to someone else going elsewhere. You've got things listed as "essential" that I've managed without for cumulative months in various places, and "very useful" items I can't even think of why I'd ever want them. (Door wedges?) Too many of the items are "very useful... if you're taking a certain kind of trip", and just clutter up the list if you're not. Or they don't have any explanation, leaving people to wonder what they are or why they're on the list. No surprise that people keep trying to edit it down!
What might be more useful would be various articles along the lines of "Packing for a cruise", "Packing for a business trip overseas", "Packing for a ski trip", "Packing to study abroad", etc. Those might be close enough to actual packing lists, and reasonable and helpful enough suggestions in their respective contexts, that people won't be so inclined to "correct" them by taking out the things that don't fit with their own prefered kind of travel. - Todd VerBeek 13:59, 25 March 2006 (EST)
Yet another person has tried to fix this so-called "packing list" (which should more accurately be titled Anything you might possibly bring along when you leave the house even if you don't know what it is or why you'd want it but I needed it once), only to be reverted. This is (originally) someone's personal packing list, after all, and despite the attempt at categorizing it by essential/useful/optional, it still reads like one. Is anyone interested in helping to fix it, or do you all just want to preserve it as the train-wreck that it is? - Todd VerBeek 07:22, 19 April 2006 (EDT)
Lol. I could actually use that kind of list... hmm, keys, wallet, baby bag, door wedge... Anyway, I think there's always a problem with this type of "common sense" travel info, simply because there's no such thing. Some folks do actually need to be told to bring their passport when they leave the county, pack socks if it's cold, etc etc. But the packing list seems to be so context driven (who are you, where are you going when....) that even the Packing for a cruise (artic or tropic? with children? over 50?) is going to be all over the place or too personal.
I'd like to see a real argument & plan for how/why this can work otherwise it gets my vfd. We just dont have a place for personal planning tools right now... Majnoona 09:24, 19 April 2006 (EDT)
I think the key to making this sort of thing work is to focus on commonalities (and forget about the door wedges, resumes, and recipe file). Despite personal preferences and different travel specifics, probably 80% of what a given person brings along on a cruise (for example) is also brought by 80% of everyone else. Someone who's never done that kind of travel would benefit from knowing what most other people bring. I don't see these being useful as checklists per se, but as general guides from people who've done it before. - Todd VerBeek 09:47, 19 April 2006 (EDT)
I agree. I've moved some packing advice into Tips for travel in developing countries, where I think it makes more sense. Much of this list strikes me as ludicrous. I don't even own moisturiser, let alone consider it "essential" for packing. Pashley 11:19, 19 May 2006 (EDT)
...but it is essential if you live in the tropics and plan an extended sojourn somewhere very dry. Which just kind of goes to prove the point. Jpatokal 11:52, 19 May 2006 (EDT)


Just a question- why is a passport not listed as essential?

Well, not all travel involves leaving your home country, and there are some border crossings that don't require one (e.g. certain EU members, U.S./Canada (at present)). - Todd VerBeek 09:47, 19 April 2006 (EDT)

Complete overhaul

In keeping with the consensus on VFD that something should be kept here, and the general disatisfaction with what was here before, I've taken a stab at rebuilding it as a how-to/ideas article (rather than a checklist). I tried to incorporate most of the more-commonly-practical list items into the article as suggestions to consider in building one's own packing list. If I left out your favorite "door wedge" or "recipe file" or "resumés", you're welcome to add them if you really feel people in general will benefit from that advice, but be prepared for others to disagree and edit accordingly. - Todd VerBeek 17:29, 20 May 2006 (EDT)

Nice work. I've edited in several places. Pashley 21:20, 20 May 2006 (EDT)