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: Hi 118.! What do you exactly mean by ''too large for some users to edit the lead''? Do you mean editing the page? Please know, that on Wikitravel we refrain from splitting the articles. Thanks! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] ([[User talk:IBAlex|talk]]) 14:48, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
 
: Hi 118.! What do you exactly mean by ''too large for some users to edit the lead''? Do you mean editing the page? Please know, that on Wikitravel we refrain from splitting the articles. Thanks! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] ([[User talk:IBAlex|talk]]) 14:48, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
::Yes - they will not be able to edit the whole page at all!
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::Exactly what I wrote: The present size means it will be too large for some users to edit the lead paragraph of [[New York City]] (as opposed to individual sections) due to limitations in their operating system and cache memory size. There is an obscure way that users can edit just the lead section, but very few will know the technique (do you?) and this means that, unwittingly and unintentionally, we are disenfranchising many editors using non-Mickysoft combinations or older, less powerful machines. That's sad and stupid, because it defeats the purpose of a Wiki.
::The present huge size means it will be too large for some users to edit the whole page by simply hitting the edit button (and thus the lead paragraph of [[New York City]]) (as opposed to individual sections) due to limitations in their operating system and cache memory size. There is an obscure way that users can edit just the lead section, but very few will know the technique (do you?) and this means that, unwittingly and unintentionally, we are disenfranchising many editors using non-Mickysoft combinations or older, less powerful machines. That's sad and stupid, because it defeats the purpose of a Wiki.
 
 
::Where do you get the weird notion that "on Wikitravel we refrain from splitting the articles"? We've done that repeatedly over the last 10 years and, indeed, there is a formal process enshrined in policy for what we call districtification?
 
::Where do you get the weird notion that "on Wikitravel we refrain from splitting the articles"? We've done that repeatedly over the last 10 years and, indeed, there is a formal process enshrined in policy for what we call districtification?
 
::Take a look at http://wikitravel.org/en/Talk:Cruise_ships
 
::Take a look at http://wikitravel.org/en/Talk:Cruise_ships
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Secondly, I've been editing as an IP since ''long'' before I created this account.
 
Secondly, I've been editing as an IP since ''long'' before I created this account.
 
Thirdly, do you know the way that users can edit just the lead section, when they have the article size problems I'm describing?
 
  
 
Substantively, you are really missing the point here in a huge and important way.
 
Substantively, you are really missing the point here in a huge and important way.
  
Any Webmaster will tell you that it is extremely rare that any casual web reader will ever bother to point out even the most extreme typographical or navigational error - they just click on to the next website. This is even true of Government websites and major airline booking sites where they are very motivated to get a tax rebate or book a flight trust me on this - I really do know what I'm writing about here.
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Any webmaster will tell you that it is extremely rare that any casual web reader will ever bother to point out even the most extreme typographical or naviagtional error - they just click on to the next website. This is even true of Government websites and major airline booking sites - trust me on this - I really do know what I'm writing about here.
  
 
We do rely on the casual user to update this site with price changes and a thousand and one little edits. If they can't edit a page at all, they really are not going to tell you.
 
We do rely on the casual user to update this site with price changes and a thousand and one little edits. If they can't edit a page at all, they really are not going to tell you.

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