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::Oops.  I was wondering "who's the prick making that political edit"--and it turns out it was me!  I fully support restoring Turkey to the list, and it should be shaded in both on the M.E. map here and the general Asia map. There is no getting around the fact that it is both European and Asian, in all senses of both words.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:46, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
 
::Oops.  I was wondering "who's the prick making that political edit"--and it turns out it was me!  I fully support restoring Turkey to the list, and it should be shaded in both on the M.E. map here and the general Asia map. There is no getting around the fact that it is both European and Asian, in all senses of both words.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:46, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
  
It was totally a mistake that such a region, Middle East, exists. It is not even a continent. "Middle East" is artificial. So while adding Cyprus, which is classified as in Asia geographically, to Europe, why do you classify Turkey as in Middle East? Turkey has agreements with European Countries, such as UEFA, European Council, so many other associations. So simply remove Turkey from Middle East map, while it is an official candidate  of European Union. This should be considered to classify Turkey where it should actually be placed. --[[User:Nitrium|Nitrium]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Nitrium|Talk]]</sup></small> 00:23, 11 December 2011 (EST)
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It was totally a mistake that such a region, Middle East, exists. It is not even a continent. "Middle East" is artificial. So while adding Cyprus, which is classified as in Asia geographically, to Europe, why do you classify Turkey as in Middle East? Turkey has agreements with European Countries, such as UEFA, European Council, so many other associations. So simply remove Turkey from Middle East map, while it is an official candidate  of European Union. This should be considered to classify Turkey where it should actually be placed. --[[User:Nitrium|Nitrium]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Nitrium|Talk]]</sup></smal> 00:23, 11 December 2011 (EST)
::This is not WikiGeopolitics, it's Wikitravel, where [[the traveller comes first]]. ~Relevant information is included here for the benefit of people seeking '''travelling''' information. This is why this page exists, this is why Turkey is included here and should not be removed. [[User:201.67.83.121|201.67.83.121]] 17:28, 10 December 2011 (EST)
 
:: But, it gives an political Message, MiddleEast is created to mention a region in political aspect. MiddleEast should not be used in terms of Travel. When you group Turkey to the MiddleEast, you give a rough  message that Turkey is a country like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Jordan, Egypt, which is totally false. Turkey implements secularism, democracy, Swiss model, and all European standards. Only because of having a Muslim majority in Turkey, you classify Turkey to be in such a region. Isn't this a prejuidice? If it is ok with talking in terms of Travel, please kindly put Cyprus, and Greece to the same region, which are close to the region --[[User:Nitrium|Nitrium]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Nitrium|Talk]]</sup></small> 00:40 11 December 2011 (EST)
 
:::It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with geography.  You'll note that Turkey is included in the country lists on both [[Europe]] and [[Middle East]].  That is the only fair way to describe the geographical situation -- and the political situation is not of particular importance to us, as a travel site.  [[User:LtPowers|LtPowers]] 22:25, 10 December 2011 (EST)
 
 
 
Can you kindly check Asian Region? Turkey is shaded and not included as Middle Eastern country... If you are supporting the idea of including TR here in ME, please unshade Turkey and include it in the Asian Map also, this gives more consistent message.  --[[User:Nitrium|Nitrium]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Nitrium|Talk]]</sup></small> 00:53 11 December 2011 (EST)
 
 
 
Yes is there valid explanation for my previous question or request.--[[User:Nitrium|Nitrium]] 15:26, 28 December 2011 (EST)
 
 
 
:It looks like the map of Asia has been fixed to include Turkey.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 19:50, 29 December 2011 (EST)
 
  
 
==Palestinian Territories==
 
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:::Istanbul should be on there, it's the largest city of the Middle East. Turkey should also be colored on the map. --[[User:Globe-trotter|globe-trotter]] 15:37, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:::Istanbul should be on there, it's the largest city of the Middle East. Turkey should also be colored on the map. --[[User:Globe-trotter|globe-trotter]] 15:37, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
 
== Turkey and Arabic ==
 
 
"Arabic is the primary language of the region, and the main language in all Middle Eastern countries except Iran (where Persian predominates), Turkey (Turkish) and Israel (Hebrew). Even in those countries, Arabic is fairly common as a second language;"
 
 
This is a false expression for Turkey. In Turkey, Turkish is primary language, and in Turkey, Arabic is not faily common as a second language. This statement should be corrected. Even though the worshipping language is in Arabic, most of the people do not understand or speak Arabic.  --[[User:Nitrium|Nitrium]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Nitrium|Talk]]</sup></small> 16:50 11 December 2011 (EST)
 
 
: Good point, and for that matter while Iran has an Arabic-speaking minority in some regions and Arabic is used in the religion, I doubt it is widespread as a second language there.
 
: Is it enough to change "fairly common" to "sometimes spoken"? Or do we need some more radical rewrite? [[User:Pashley|Pashley]] 19:50, 11 December 2011 (EST)
 
 
== Iraq is included as the Middle East? ==
 
 
For the same reason as Iran, couldn't it also be controversial to add it to the Middle East since it can also be considered part of South Asia or Central Asia? Any thoughts? [[User:Riyadhman|Riyadhman]] ([[User talk:Riyadhman|talk]]) 06:08, 30 June 2016 (EDT)
 

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