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I've pretty much rebuilt and rewritten this article. I go to these bars, I go to these restaurants, I go to these shops and I experience this city everyday. It's nice to be able to have the chance to share it with other people. I tried to offer up mainly local establishments for people to visit, since chains populate most of this country anymore. Please write if you have any questions or curiousities about Indianapolis. And please, other Hoosiers, add your travel info! :) Missvain 00:48, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Missvain, you've done an incredible job expanding our coverage of this interesting city. Thank you so much -- your work is going to help thousands of travelers.
Would you be interested in acting as a docent for the Indianapolis article? That way, if readers have questions, they can ask you directly on your user page. --Evan 07:31, 15 December 2006 (EST)
Evan, thanks, yes, I would like to be a docent. I thought I added the docent note at the bottom of the page, but perhaps I did it incorrectly? Thanks a lot for the encouragement. Missvain 09:44, 15 December 2006 (EST)


A few months ago this article sucked so I have to give props to Sarah for bringing it in line with MoS and filling it out, but now it's a little too informative. Should Indy follow the guidelines for a huge city and be broken down into districts? Viewing this in the eyes of a traveler this article offers an amazing amount of information that can't be found in any paper guide book, but since it's all lumped together it's very hard to discriminate which information is relevant to my needs. The amount of information is kind of a roadblock (pun intended) rather than a help so I'd encourage breaking the article down into districts for readability. -- Andrew H. (Sapphire) 15:14, 15 January 2007 (EST)

  • I am sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I'd be totally okay with putting the entries into districts, it's just an overwhelming task that I struggle with when it comes to districting the page. Perhaps you can give me some tips or ideas about doing this for my fair city. Thank you! Missvain 14:04, 14 February 2007 (EST)
    • Wow this guide has loads of info! We need to get this split up I think. The first thing we need to do is to come up with some ideas for where the districts should be, then we can begin shifting the listings out... Any suggestions for districts? -- Tim (writeme!) 12:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)
Split Makes sense to me, but I have no emotional investment in it. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:24, 12 August 2007 (EDT)
Suggestion from Koavf on my talk page is for districts to be Westside/Speedway, Northside and Carmel, Southside and Greewood, Eastside, and Downtown. Any further comments? -- Tim (writeme!) 16:09, 14 August 2007 (EDT)
I would recommend defining clear district borders before proceeding to split, see recommendations in Wikitravel:Geographical_hierarchy#Districts_in_cities for more details. --DenisYurkin 16:18, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
Yeah, that district proposal sounds just right to me. And as soon as someone does come up with nice, clear borders, lets do this—this article is a lot to take in at one time. --Peter Talk 17:51, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

Price category for Shapiro's[edit]

Just noticed that Missvain moved Shapiro's into the "moderate" price category with the comment, "moved shaprio's to moderate. it's a pricey cafeteria!!" While I'll agree it's slightly more expensive than the average cafeteria, I think it's still "cheap" overall. Seems to me the useful comparison is to all restaurants, not just to other cafeterias. Thoughts? Chuck Carroll 15:05, 4 February 2008 (EST)

  • Hi Chuck..I honestly think it's moderate still. I know you get a lot of food for your money, but man, the average budget traveler might not want to opt to go to Shapiro's. I can only afford to honestly throw down for a lunch there once in the blue moon. But, either way, it's listed, and that's cool! And whats pricey for me isn't always pricey for others :) Missvain 22:14, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
    • I still disagree. You can get a full meal there (i.e., not just an entree) for 12-14 bucks, which is less than half of what you'd spend at some of the other restaurants in the "mid-range" price category. Is it more expensive than, say, Yat's? Sure. Will some very budget-conscious travellers opt to avoid it because of the price? Sure. But I don't think a restaurant where the entrees cost less than $10 should fall in the "mid-range" category. If the cutoff between budget and mid-range is that low, there are quite a few other restaurants currently listed as "budget" which would have to be moved to mid-range. (Bazbeaux, Greek Islands, Iaria's, Shalimar, Bosphorus, just of those I'm familiar with.) Chuck 12:39, 16 December 2008 (EST)
I'd agree that the cafeteria should be kept in the budget category. (And I dropped a wad of cash at Greek Islands last time I was there!) Anyway, I've been meaning to mention here that this is one heck of a guide. --Peter Talk 14:19, 16 December 2008 (EST)


Isn't this article too long for Indianapolis? It's just as long as the Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, London, and Paris articles. Surely if one can find this much to write about for Indianapolis, then the aforementioned cities articles should be even longer as they have much more history, attractions, and facts to offer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

It's not half as long as the guides for those cities. Chicago has 27 articles included in its guide, NYC has 27 as well, and is barely half finished. London has 69 articles (this is probably too many). San Francisco has 15. Indianapolis has only one, and I think it does a good job of covering the city. --Peter Talk 08:31, 21 May 2009 (EDT)
I think I can understand, although not necessarily agree, with the anon comments above. I think the article is well on its way. I have spent time trying to clean up abbreviations Wikitravel:Abbreviations, price ranges, etc., today. I also attempted to start to split up the Eat/Budget items, and see the mid-range currently has 19 listings (if you like, cool; if location makes better sense, perhaps someone with more expertise on Indy could take a stab). Two things would probably help: The +/-7 rule of thumb could probably be applied to sections, and 2) trying to be concise when possible Wikitravel:Tone.
Unbeknownst to most, Indy has an awful lot to offer visitors. I'd definitely split the city into districts rather than reduce the size of the article. A division along the lines of Downtown, Broad Ripple, North Side, West Side, East Side, South Side would probably make sense, although that may be a bit more districts than one would want. Maybe North and West could somehow be combined? Or create a giant Outskirts article to cover North, West, and East? None of those areas have much to see, although there is plenty to eat! --Peter Talk 19:15, 16 September 2010 (EDT)
Support the above. Zepppep 12:54, 17 September 2010 (EDT)