Difference between revisions of "Talk:Edinburgh"
Revision as of 19:12, 28 November 2010do we really have to discuss casual sex? there are sites specialized for that... since someone posted the same "gay sex/casual sex" into glasgow/edinburgh" and perhaps onto other cities: why not a "where to meet people", perhaps with links to sites specializing into the harder stuff... Contents
Removal of sex sectionI've removed the sex section since it really doesn't fit in the way it's written:
-- Colin 00:25, 13 May 2005 (EDT)
Separate Article for Leith?The Rotal Yacht Britannia is mentioned, but do people think it is worth writing a separate article for Leith? I don'tthink it is worth the effort of splitting the city up into "Huge City" districts, but would this be worthwhile? -- DanielC 09:43, 12 Jun 2005 (EDT)
Having spent a bit more time on Wikitravel and seen some of the quality guides to cities nowhere near Edinburgh's international stature, I have to go back on what I said above. It really needs some work to do it justice, and to make it managable I think districtification is a must. I've made a start on moving some of the relevant material into the Old Town and New Town guides, and added a new district, Stockbridge and Canonmills. You could make an argument for another district covering Bruntsfield, Marchmont, Southside but as there are no real sights here I think any restaurant/bar/hotel listings can just as usefully be left in the Old Town. (Stockbridge and Canonmills has the Botanics and the Water of Leith).Tarr3n 08:45, 23 July 2008 (EDT) The University of EdinburghAn anoymous (141.140.120.40) contributer marked in a change comment ~Learn - I've never heard it called "Edinburgh University," only the "University of Edinburgh"~ So, I would like to say that I have heard the term "Edinburgh University" used frequently, including by students and former students of the institution. I've used both terms myself depending on the formality of the situation. If I am in a particularly pedantic mood I'll use "The University of Edinburgh" as that is the correct title. --Colin Angus Mackay18:43, 16 Jul 2005 (EDT) I would agree, both terms are entirely interchangeable and frequently are by the University itself and students.Sgrobertson 06:31, 4 Aug 2005 (EDT) The names are interchangeable. I know people who refer to it as "ed dot ack dot uck" (as do I sometimes - it is shorter and just rolls off the tongue!) --82.41.11.43 08:16, 3 Jan 2006 (EST) As an Edinburgh Graduate I used both depending on the time of day, although strictly speaking it is the UoE. Travel by trainThe statement that a "shuttle bus service links [Waverley and Haymarket rail stations]" is innaccurate and misleading. Several normal city bus routes serve both stations, but there is no dedicated shuttle, or any other bus service designed expressly to provide a link. Nor is there any reason for one. Almost all train services to and from Haymarket also serve Waverley, and vice versa. In normal circumstance, you would never need a bus to provide an intermediate link.
Whisky, not "Whiskey"The article uses the American/Irish spelling of the word throughout. This might be confusing to visitors- Scotch is spelled differently to indicate a difference in taste and means of manufacture. Purists would be offended by the wrong usage. Also, the "Whisky Museum" referred to in the article should be the "Scotch Whisky Experience". It would also be useful if a link could be added to the website: http://www.whisky-heritage.co.uk/index.html
Stay SafeI think the "Stay Safe" section is likely to cause undue concern about safety in Edinburgh's suburbs. Some of Edinburgh's suburbs are among the wealthiest and safest parts of the UK. A visitor is unlikely to experience violence or threatening behaviour. The exceptions are Craigmillar, Muirhouse and Pilton where significant social problems exist- but a visitor is unlikely to find himself wandering there late at night. It seems a shame to suggest that all of Edinburgh's suburbs are dangerous.
Black Pudding/"Blood Sausage"The "Eat" section suggests that visitors should stop by a chippy and have a "deep fried blood sausage". I realise that this was probably intended to make the term "black pudding" understandable to non-UK visitors, but I fear if someone turned up and said "I would like a deep fried blood sausage" they may be met with a vacant stare from the person behind the counter.
Travel by car in the city centreThe article is correct to claim that Edinburgh is not car-friendly, but the statement "Recently there have been massive changes to the traffic in the center of town, making it almost impossible to traverse by car." has been falsified by time. This referred to the City Council's "Central Edinburgh Traffic Management" scheme that was implemented, for a short period, in 2005. Most of the restrictions were later reversed in the light of significant public discontent. More information here: http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/10/12_edinburgh_today_-_central_edinburgh_traffic_management_scheme.htm
Accommodation entriesThere seems to be some contention as to what construes an entry. As per Policy I have removed all links that lead to "Directory" type agency sites. This devalues the philosophy and values of a wiki.
Leith Internet cafe removalI have added Leith Internet cafe ande it was removed. I wanted to know what was the reason for that? I have added Leith Internet cafe in 27/12. This is a real internet cafe, and it was deleted. I wanted to know what was the reason for that —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.219.50 (talk • contribs) DuplicationsThere is all sorts of duplicate information between the district articles and the main Edinburgh article. I suggest we remove most of the duplicates from the main article and leave them in the district articles. Carson 19:03, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
DistrictificationAs per the discussions above under "Separate article for Leith?" and "Duplications", I've been doing a fair bit of work tidying up, adding listings, and districtifying. Edinburgh/Old Town, Edinburgh/New Town and Edinburgh/Leith have all been in existence for some time, though only Leith had a significant amount of content, the Old and New Town content was all still in the main City article. I've now stripped out the content from Edinburgh into those districts, and created some new districts to cover areas away from the City Centre and Leith - namely Edinburgh/Stockbridge and Canonmills, Edinburgh/East, Edinburgh/South and Edinburgh/West. South Queensferry has had it's own article since April 2007, to which I have added a link under Edinburgh#Districts which will hopefully direct more wikitravellers to that destination. It would be great if someone could create a district map for the article. I don't have the software or skills to produce one for Wikitravel, but have quickly produced an outline entitled Edinburgh Wikitravel Districts on Google Maps [1]. I'd appreciate opinions on the districts and boundaries if anyone feels they could be arranged better.Tarr3n 07:30, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
South QueensferryI didn't notice this article before. If it is to retain its article status (rather than be merged into Edinburgh/West), it should be moved to Edinburgh/South Queensferry and displayed on the map. Should we instead treat it as a separate town? If so, it should be moved from the districts section to the get out section. --Peter Talk 20:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)
"See" section and LandmarksI dont understand why this article was featured previously. The things section that should interest most, the core part of a guide, nanmely the landmark section is merely a collection of links and does not offer any valuable information. Is wikitravel meant to be this superficial? I think it should be encouraged to go more into dept. LiangHH 15:16, 20 November 2008 (EST)
B&B rows?I seem to recall that there are two major B&B areas in Edinburgh, one not far north of Princes Street, and another in Old Town (Minto)? The Sleep section doesn't record this though. —The preceding comment was added by 206.47.210.130 (talk • contribs) .
Airport ParkingThis article currently has a large table giving some info about Airport carparks. I noticed that a user recently stripped out some of this info and it was reinstated by another user. I'd actually question whether this information is relevant at all to visitors? If you're travelling to the airport with your hire car you will have specific instructions on where to drop it off anyway. To me, detailed airport parking info is only relevant to people who actually live here and are travelling elsewhere. Those people are unlikely to be looking here for that information, and in any case the list of carparks in the table is far from complete and doesn't even give details of short stay and pick up/drop off facilities. I'd be inclined to strip it all out and replace it with a short paragraph summarising the parking arrangements at the airport. Anybody want to offer a counter opinion before I go ahead and do that? Tarr3n 08:37, 26 November 2010 (EST)
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