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Dearborn's location

Dearborn is on the southwest side of Detroit, not the north as given in the beginning of the Understand section. (It is, however, a wonderful place to eat.)

Detroit's mansions

All the places given for mansions in the Understand section are outside of Detroit proper. There are many beautiful mansions within the city in Palmer Park, Boston Edison, Arden Park and Indian Village, to name a few.

Ford's first assembly line

Was not in Detroit, it was in Highland Park, which is surrounded by Detroit. You cannot visit the building, but you can drive by it on Woodward Ave.

Get in - air

Windsor's airport is closer to the northern suburbs (and much of Detroit) than Metro Airport. Nearby airports are Flint Bishop, Toledo and Lansing.

Get in - car - street layout

Detroit is a grid on a wagon wheel because of the Great Fire.


Eat section completely leaves out the Lebanese restaurants in Warrendale and Dearborn, Hamtramck's Polish restaurants, Jacoby's downtown, Sinbad's, etc. It also includes chains (why on earth would anyone come to Detroit and eat in a P.F. Chang's?) The Roostertail (next to Sinbad's) is only open these days for parties.

None of the Detroit area restaurants liked by the foodies on eGullet are here. Nor is any idea of price given (restaurants listed are on the expensive side).

Thanks for the feedback, but please plunge forward and edit the page yourself! Jpatokal 01:24, 2 October 2006 (EDT)


Detroit certainly has some districts that I think deserve separate mentioning and description (e.g. Downtown, Midtown, New Center, Corktown, Greektown, etc - Hamtramck and Highland Park also, even though they are not municipally part of the city). We should at least get a map together of where these districts are to start with. --Locano 16:07, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Seems like this article is about ready to district-fy. It's a lot of work, though. You'll need to come up with a list of proposed districts - I recommend starting low, and continuing to subdivide them as they fill up. Cleveland has three, which are nicely done, but there are others that have too many, and the useful information gets spread too thin for travelers to use. On Chicago, we started with about half of the ones we currently have. There's some useful discussion here. Gorilla Jones 02:21, 18 November 2007 (EST)
Ah, thank you for your guidance. I definitely didn't realize how much work this might be. No time to start like the present! --Locano 20:48, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Proposed Districts

In the interest if district-ifying Detroit, here is the list of districts that I am thinking of creating.

Under the suggestion of this talk page, first the information will be divided into districts on the Detroit page, and as the section gains more information it can be split into its own article. Comments, suggestions? --Locano 21:18, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Doesn't seem excessive, and no objections have been raised - plunge forward! Gorilla Jones 12:25, 6 January 2008 (EST)

The situation in Detroit

Okay, so a lot of what I've read suggests that Detroit is not in good shape. I realize the point of a travel guide is to paint a positive picture of the location, but wouldn't it be useful under Understand to let people know that there are some problems there? For example, I would want to know whether crime was a problem there, and if there were neighborhoods that were safe/unsafe. Potential visitors who aren't aware of the situation in Detroit might go there and then be a bit disappointed. 08:04, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

I think a brief mention of crime and less brief treatment of Detroit's difficulties connected to the downward slide at GM is appropriate in the understand section, but the vast majority of crime information belongs in the dedicated "Stay safe" section. "Understand" should be pretty limited to background, history, and a little travel-related boosterism. --Peter Talk 16:06, 16 August 2008 (EDT)
Detroit is a great city and its seen trememdous progress and redevelopment in the past decade. Detroit is in very good shape, nearly all of its freeways have been recently upgraded and revamped, its airport is one of the nation's newest. Its hotels are some of the nation's best. Its also a safe city, just as safe as any other major city. The city is a fun travel destination with some of America's best attractions. Economic issues and the gas crisis are affecting the whole country. Side issues and auto company problems are not relevant to a travel guide. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)
Agreed that Detroit is a great city and a fun travel destination (especially for music!), but disagreed that it is just as safe as any other major city, and that the auto industry's problems are irrelevant. The auto industry is central to Detroit's history, and to ignore it and it's recent history would be a serious omission in background information. It would also be a basic omission in sightseeing information—one of the highlights of my last mini-vacation there was seeing all of GM's new models. --Peter Talk 17:02, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Detroit has low crime in areas frequented by tourists. It's just as safe as any major city. I travel to several of them. Detoit's crime has declined drastically from three decades ago. Even areas of higher crime emanate from certain limited locations which are not tourist areas anyway. Detroit has much larger and vibrant crowds for events and in its downtown than many other cities. An example are the unbelievably large size of weekend suburban crowds at Tri-Centennial State Park on the Riverfront. Agree of course, that the auto industry is central to Detroit's history. The auto industry has seen a rough year, however, the outlook is positive with restructings and cost savings which are yet to be reflected. Locally produced vehicles, such as the G6, the Malibu, and Cadillac are generally adding shifts. Company's quarterly business cycles/fuel spikes (which are subsiding) and accounting write downs are side issues and not really important for a travel guide. Indications are that Detroit automakers view their own circumstances much more favorably going forward than outsiders know yet. Manufacturing in Michigan itself rose 6 percent from 2001 to 2006. New business grads I know there, are receiving multiple job offers in their field. Most of the complains come from those who were fantastic but are lately just very well off. Educators which are plenty in Michigan are second highest paid in the nation after California which has a much higher cost of living. Further, the region has recently received committments for 4,800 new jobs from new investments, including and $11 billion joint venture from K-DOW chemical. The region has a healthy number of current job openings in a variety of fields and the midwest in general typically has a higher percent of its population employed than other parts of the country. Detroit Casinos are seeing gains while their counterparts in other cities are not. The economic impact of the current War has affected tourism nationwide, and moreso in areas like Tampa, Miami, Orlando/Disney and Las Vegas. Comparatively, Detroit's travel industry has faired reasonably well during the period and even seen gains. 11:02, 22 August 2008 (EDT)