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Reproductions of Copyrighted Materials[edit]

Archived from the Pub:

So... I'd like to add some of the Canadian provincial highway shields to maps. Unfortunately, many of them are copyrighted. I'm guessing tracing one is off limits (it would be a derivative work of copyrighted material). Does anyone know how to work around this without violating the copyright. A couple of things I thought off are:

  • try to create one that looks the same, but do it free-hand
  • create one that is similar looking but leaves out certain features so it is not an exact replica

Any thoughts? Shaund 19:40, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Would [these] work? --Peter Talk 19:56, 10 December 2008 (EST)
Unfortunately they don't help much (I actually have that page bookmarked already!). Those are the Trans-Canada signs plus two of the provinces. I've found signs I can use for about 5 or 6 of the provinces so far. The big problems are BC and Alberta. Wikipedia/Commons treats all of their highway shields as a non-free logo. It sounds like Ontario is the same, but someone created simplified versions (i.e., my second bullet point) to get around it. I'm leaning towards doing it for those shields I can't find public domain/CC versions of, but would like to see if there are any other options. Shaund 20:34, 10 December 2008 (EST)
Ontario shields, at least the 400-series ones, should be public domain, according to Commons. For any provincial highways whose shields aren't PD, I recommend a generic square or circle design, something like Wikipedia:Commons:Image:MA Route 2.svg or the "generic" default route markers used by some U.S. states (Wikipedia:Commons:Circle_signs). LtPowers 21:23, 10 December 2008 (EST)
Shaund is right, and good for bringing this up. Not so sure of BC, but Shaund knows well so I assume it is, but I guess BC has the problem AB has. Yes we have the TransCanada, Secondary/Non Special Major, and Series 400 Highways, great. But a lot of canadian highways have unique symbols that dont have similarities to others. One example of a major highway that is this is the QEII (Queen Elizabeth highway 2) in Alberta, [1],. which runs from Calgary to Edmonton. There is highway two whcih uses a generic symbol on the highway outside of the leg of Edm-Cal. But that isn't such a major one, and we already have that logo. A few places still use the generic QEII symbol that was used, but that is because it only recently changed.edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 16:07, 11 December 2008 (EST).
Thanks for the comments. I took a closer look at the Ontario shields and they're OK because the copyright expired. I'll use a very generic design for those provinces whose shields are still covered by copyright. At some point, I'll try to summarize the status for all the provinces and put it up on the map making or regional map page. Shaund 01:42, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Editable route icons[edit]

For the purpose of mapmaking, the path-based text on the shields from commons is a real pain (since you can't just change the numbers as text). I made an SVG with the basic 4 types of shields. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to make more such SVG bases for mapmaking, and include them in this list? --Peter Talk 16:28, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Why are all these routes uploaded as PNG? That's pretty useless when making maps. Can't we just change them into a list of SVG-templates? --globe-trotter 10:59, 25 January 2010 (EST)
These are meant for Wikitravel:Routebox navigation. SVG icons wouldn't work. We could have a separate list for mapmakers, but it would probably be easier just to create and use a shared:category:SVG route icons. --Peter Talk 13:02, 25 January 2010 (EST)
(edit conflict) They're not here for map-making purposes. (Map-makers can easily go to Commons for any route shields they need, choosing either PNG or SVG according to their preferences. There's no reason to upload them here, Peter's suggestion above aside.) These are for routebox navigation. LtPowers 13:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
Commons does a hideous job of organizing them, though... They also use paths for text, which is annoying. For our purposes, it might be nice to upload SVG files with all the most important route icons for each country/region, e.g., a European file, a USA file (which I have linked above in this thread), a Canada file, etc. --Peter Talk 13:28, 25 January 2010 (EST)
I've not had any problems with SVG road shields from Commons. The reason they use paths is so you don't have to have a specific font installed; while I do have the fonts installed, not everyone does. LtPowers 17:09, 25 January 2010 (EST)
Ah allright, understood :) --globe-trotter 13:51, 26 January 2010 (EST)