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Archive for Wikitravel:Votes for deletion acted on in June 2007. If you can't find the chronicle that interests you here, try Wikitravel:Votes for deletion/May 2007 or Wikitravel:Votes for deletion/July 2007 for things that may have happened earlier or later, respectively.

Clare County[edit]

per User talk:60.52.138.153 ~ 60.51.204.185 13:02, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

Ebbelwoi[edit]

A kind of apple wine: not a travel topic. Article apparently created because someone left the name linked, Wikipedia-style. - Todd VerBeek 19:56, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:14, 20 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Deletecacahuate talk 16:10, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete -- Fastestdogever 10:26, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 00:59, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Moula Ali Dargah[edit]

I have no idea what or where this is, but it doesn't sound like an article. "Content" (I use that loosely) might be worth rescuing if somebody can figure out where it could go... Jpatokal 05:21, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Redirect to Hyderabad – I copied the info (or something resembling it) into the Hyderabad article, where it belongs... it's not big enough to warrant its own article – cacahuate talk 17:37, 20 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Redirected to Hyderabad --NJR_ZA 01:04, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Images by User:Kpvishnu[edit]

This user uploaded a lot of images, most of which appear to be copyvios, and none of which a license was selected for. Ryan left the user a note on his talk page last year, but the user never contributed again under that name. Many of them are tiny and not that useful anyhow.

  • Delete allcacahuate talk 18:44, 20 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:14, 20 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete -- Fastestdogever 10:26, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 01:09, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Mount Donna Buang[edit]

This was speedy-deleted on the grounds that it's not a destination, but being that it's a ski resort and we've kept other ski-resort articles, I've restored it and would like to see our rigorous process applied. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 10:09, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

  • It might be a free-standing destination, depending on how remote and how extensive it is. I assume You Can Sleep There™, but if it's within day-trip distance of Melbourne and/or just a single lodging, I'd put it as a "Do" item there and redirect. Unfortunately the article doesn't give any real clues, does it? - Todd VerBeek 11:53, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
  • I've done a bit more poking around, and my sources imply that you cannot sleep there; the nearest lodging appears to be in somewhere called Warburton. However, Mount Donna Buang definitely qualifies as an "attraction" along the lines of other ski areas that don't justify articles themselves. The indicated path forward seems to be to create a Warburton stub, and redirect this one there. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:43, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Redirected to Warburton --NJR_ZA 11:11, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Htl Montebello.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Uploaded without a license, image taken from this site. Also is an image of a hotel, which we usually don't use. -- Fastestdogever 12:54, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 11:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Montebello.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Uploaded without a license, image taken from this site. Also is an image of a hotel, which we usually don't use. -- Fastestdogever 12:54, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 11:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Capitol.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Uploaded without a license by the same user that uploaded the other two. Also is an image of a hotel, which we usually don't use. -- Fastestdogever 12:54, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 11:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:275pxKaiapos.jpeg[edit]

  • Delete. Privacy-policy violation. - Todd VerBeek 17:38, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete -- Fastestdogever 10:26, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 11:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:SG-Cachoeira.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Apparent copyvio: [1] - Todd VerBeek 17:38, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 11:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Saogabrielmapa.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Apparent copyvio: [2] - Todd VerBeek 17:38, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome - Deleted --NJR_ZA 11:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology[edit]

Attraction, not a destination. Jordanmills 19:49, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Redirected to Dinosaur Provincial Park. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 18:31, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Wagamon[edit]

  • Delete. An article about a hill that's good for picnicking. - Todd VerBeek 15:31, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect to Erattupetta -- Fastestdogever 10:26, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep There is a Hill Station, a monastery and several hotels, not only a series of hills. See: [3] & [4] WindHorse 09:37, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep Pashley 22:00, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Kept, but flagged for Manual of Style work. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 18:34, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Quetta[edit]

The following images were uploaded by User:Ajmalahmedkhan, who has previously demonstrated a limited understanding of copyright.

All other pics are also guilty by association and I'd be tempted to delete them to be sure. Jpatokal 07:06, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete all. -- Fastestdogever 10:26, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete and check text for copyvios as well. I already removed one section for that. Pashley 04:16, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: All deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 18:46, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Norwegian police officer 2006-06-06.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Image of person without model release. Also not really illustrative. -- Colin 13:08, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. -- Fastestdogever 10:57, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete for obvious reasons. WindHorse 22:04, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:30, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

Cook County[edit]

It's time to seriously reorganise Chicagoland. It seems to me that these county articles might make sense in a guide for locals who know all about the county boundries, etc. however they are not terribly useful for the traveller. If the counties are mentioned at all it should be in a geographical exposition in Chicagoland.

I'm definitely supportive of not using counties as regions, but given the famousness of this one it might be worth keeping as a redirect. - Todd VerBeek 11:18, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
Famous or not the page has sat empty for several years, and I think it's a good part of why Chicagoland has been stagnant, since nobody has wanted to undertake a county-by-county exposition of the suburbs. -- Mark 05:57, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
Redirect. I'm from that continent but not that region. I've never been closer to Chicago than its airport. I recognise "Cook county" but had never heard of Chicagoland until I saw the page here. I think that means some people might search for Cook county, so there should be a redirect. Pashley 06:25, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
Good point. I've done it. -- Mark 15:30, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
Redirect WindHorse 21:48, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Redirected to Chicagoland. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:31, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Kankakee County[edit]

The situation here is similar to that of Cook County above. There is no real information on the page, and all of the cities included are linked out from Chicagoland.

Kankakee County is no Cook County, but a redirect to Kankakee wouldn't hurt. - Todd VerBeek 09:54, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
Redirect to Kankakee

Outcome: Redirected to Kankakee. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:33, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Century 21 new horizon.gif[edit]

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 23:07, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Hahn[edit]

  • Delete - An airfield. --NJR_ZA 10:29, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep, although it needs to be formatted properly. It's 100 km away from Frankfurt and features hotels etc, so it's a sleepable destination. Jpatokal 10:56, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep. I suppose technically it's an article for the village of Hahn, which just happens to have a commercial airport which is the main focus of the article. - Todd VerBeek 18:21, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep as Hahn (the village with an airfield) WindHorse 09:39, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep - for reasons above. I've added a city template and moved the airfield info into the Get In section, as a start. WTDuck2 10:46, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Kept. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:50, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Flores from the South East.jpg[edit]

  • Delete – covered with a huge logo for one of the accomodation options on Flores, and we've already got a similar aerial shot of the island anyhow. – cacahuate talk 04:22, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. Probably a copyvio as well. -- Fastestdogever 10:57, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
The uploader is the owner of the guesthouse in question, so I've put the image on her userpage and removed it from the Flores article. So, no need to delete  :) – cacahuate talk 01:59, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep, with Cacahuate's modification -- and with significant misgivings. This gets into a murky area that we're going to have to address at some point: how to handle user-page content that's not in line with article content guidelines? But in the absence of clarity there, the copyvio issue seems to have gone away, at least. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: kept, only for use on user's userpage – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Ziarat_Residency.jpg and Image:Ziarat Residency In Winter.gif[edit]

Apparent copyright violations from [5] and [6] - Todd VerBeek 12:07, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

And a bunch more, with copyvio refs contained on each page: Image:Mehrgarh Dentistes.jpg Image:Markhor2.jpg Image:Markhor.jpg Image:Pir Ghaib.jpg Image:Wildgoat.jpg. He uploaded one that turned out out to be legal (except the fraudulent claim to be PD), and another that he uploaded to Wikipedia as well, and appears to be original by him. - Todd VerBeek 13:03, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

  • I've deleted most of these, but Image:Pir Ghaib.jpg, which is taken from the Flickr site, appears to be released into the public domain on Flickr, if I understand the blurb there correctly. Could one of you folks who know more about Flickr than I look into that? As far as I can tell, that one can be retained, and it's a nice photo. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:51, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
It's listed as "All rights reserved" on Flickr, so I'm gonna delete it now too... – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted all – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Other Islands (New Zealand)[edit]

A catch-all for the smaller islands of NZ, but all of the islands listed hug the coastline of either South Island or North Island, and the articles linked to from here are already (appropriately) linked to from those regions. Currently an orphan. - Todd VerBeek 17:40, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete no one will search for 'Other Islands'. WindHorse 22:04, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect - we may as well redirect this on the off chance that someone will try and recreate it in the future. -- Tim (writeme!) 07:50, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. Agree with WindHorse. This doesn't seem a sensible thing to search for. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:53, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: redirected to New Zealand – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Tel Aviv/HaYarqon Street[edit]

A street does not a district make. Only content is a link to a hotel. -- DanielC 08:52, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete WindHorse 22:04, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete, after merging hotel content into something appropriate. Keep for the moment. I've changed my mind on this. Tel Aviv poses some curious problems fitting into our usual hierarchy, in that it is a not-terribly-large city (under 400,000) that would normally not need districts at all, but it's the centerpiece of a definitely huge metropolitan area (Gush Dan -- 3M, I think) that isn't well developed yet in terms of articles here. On reflection I think it would be best to keep this district until we make sense out of the entire Gush Dan complex of articles and articles-to-be. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:56, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Kept so Bill can sort out – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Savica Waterfall[edit]

Not famous enough to warrent it's own article. -- DanielC 08:54, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

  • delete It does rate a one-line entry in Waterfalls; I'll do that. Does it need to be mentioned under Slovenia or some of its regions and cities? Pashley 23:04, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. (Info will get added to Julian Alps before long.) - Todd VerBeek 15:43, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect to Triglav National Park as it appears to be quite famous, and so people may search for it directly. See: [[7]] WindHorse 09:40, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: redirected to Triglav National Park – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Drakensberg[edit]

Outcome: kept and added a "merge into Southern Africa" tag... there's a lot of info here, so don't want to delete it to make way for a redirect – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Logo of the city.jpg[edit]

  • Delete - this type of image belongs on Wikipedia, not here. -- Fastestdogever 10:38, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Hist-listina.jpg[edit]

  • Delete - this type of image belongs on Wikipedia, not here - not very useful to to a traveler -- Fastestdogever 10:43, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Erb 2.gif[edit]

  • Delete - another one of the coat of arms images. -- Fastestdogever 12:34, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Nathpa jhakri[edit]

Hydroelectric dam in the middle of nowhere, do they even accept visitors? Might be worth a bullet point in the nearest city, but I have no idea where that would be. Jpatokal 22:22, 30 May 2007 (EDT) Outcome: deleted... I've been to this plant, and it's definitely not any sort of attraction and doesn't warrant a mention in the Shimla or Kinnaur guides – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete. Nearest reasonably well-known city is Shimla.
  • Delete. If there is a dam, there is a lake and so the possibility for recreational facilities, but I have no personal recollection of there being here any nor can I find anything on the web, so delete with possible bullet on 'Get out' section for Shimla. WindHorse 22:12, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Wateractivities2.jpg - Image:Wateractivities3.jpg - Image:Wateractivities4.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Recognizable people with no model release (duplicates at different sizes). - Todd VerBeek 15:34, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Cancun aerial-big.jpg - Image:Cancun aerial-med.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Duplicates of a copyrighted promotional image. - Todd VerBeek 15:34, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Img portada vallarta2.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Copyright violation; recognizable person with no model release; and the image is promotional in nature. - Todd VerBeek 15:34, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:QROO-OPT.jpg[edit]

  • Delete. Coat of arms for a state. Not useful to the traveler. - Todd VerBeek 15:34, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: deleted – cacahuate talk 02:10, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Foods grown in Papua New Guinea[edit]

Not an article -- Tim (writeme!) 09:32, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete - no text, not article. WindHorse 21:30, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete - impressively random. --Peterfitzgerald Talk 16:32, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
  • I think this one qualifies for a speedy-delete. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:29, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy delete. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 10:33, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

James humphries[edit]

Not an article, speedy deleted without Wikitravel:Votes_for_deletion process --NJR_ZA 07:42, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

Tester[edit]

Delete - Someone's test page. Texugo 20:14, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Deleted. — Ravikiran 01:30, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Espace Dali[edit]

  • Delete. Seems like a neato attraction, but that's what it is, and we don't have articles about attractions. I've noted that we already have lots of information about Espace Dali in the correct destination article, and have added one of the images generously contributed by User:Espace dali to illustrate that article. I've also linked out to the espace dali website from their listing.
  • Delete. It is a gallery dedicated to the works of Salvador Dali. WindHorse 22:04, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:29, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

User talk:202.133.139.4[edit]

One edit only, reads: "Good morning to a nice day for you the time over to sad to my wrong life before and good bey my love George Cowie to my life Saiyuri and the last to my heast good bey this wrods to stupid girl SAIYURI." ~ 58.8.2.182 02:39, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy deleted by User:Peterfitzgerald -- Colin 15:53, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

User:63.108.178.2[edit]

User page created by a spambot. ~ 58.8.2.182 15:02, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy deleted -- Colin 15:53, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Image talk:RyanairFlightJake73.JPG[edit]

Talk page created by a spambot. ~ 58.8.4.108 14:31, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy deleted -- Colin 15:53, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Grundlsee[edit]

  • Delete - stub about a lake, a body of water. - Todd VerBeek 19:46, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep. There is a village called Grundlsee located on the shores of this lake. See: [8] & [9] WindHorse 22:16, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep. Consistent with the "Chicken" example above. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:31, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Kept --NJR_ZA 17:36, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Tn-tatra.jpg and Image:Tat-inf.jpg[edit]

  • Delete - Unless they was uploaded by the hotel owner, these are copyvios. VFD rather than speedy to give him time to object, just in case. -Todd VerBeek 16:21, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete for reasons stated above. WindHorse 22:21, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Also Image:Trencin.jpg, which is one of those, cropped. - Todd VerBeek 18:58, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:42, 23 June 2007 (EDT)


Image:Harbin_nightlife.jpg‎[edit]

Violates privacy policy, no model release. Jpatokal 21:09, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete for reasons stated above. WindHorse 21:31, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete would definitely need a release. --Peterfitzgerald Talk 16:32, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:44, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Sea Of Japan[edit]

Per Wikitravel:Bodies of water ~ 61.47.110.57 11:21, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete or maybe just redirect to East Asia? --Peterfitzgerald Talk 16:32, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect to East Asia - people might search for this... -- Tim (writeme!) 05:55, 17 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect - this is definitely something that will be searched --NJR_ZA 17:48, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Redirected to East Asia --NJR_ZA 17:48, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Winstrom[edit]

Not sure - Trying to de-orphan this place and can't find any information about it at all on the net. As there is no info present on the page, and I'm not sure this place even exists, I'm vfd'ing it. -- Tim (writeme!) 17:05, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete. This is the work of the kid from Maine who distracts himself by creating dubious empty articles for others to clean up. Since he doesn't consider whether the noun in question is a travel destination that needs an article, they are more often than not useless. - Todd VerBeek 17:35, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete --Peterfitzgerald Talk 16:32, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:53, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Krabi roti.jpg[edit]

No model release. Jpatokal 09:31, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete - model is the whole picture and no release --Peterfitzgerald Talk 16:32, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:56, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Kosher[edit]

Not a guide. Not really a travel topic. -- Tim (writeme!) 17:32, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 18:00, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Mulder[edit]

No info, nothing on the net about this place. You guessed it, the coolest kid in town has struck again -- Tim (writeme!) 12:08, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Already Deleted --NJR_ZA 18:00, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

BCN Week[edit]

per Wikitravel:What is an article? ~ 61.47.94.214 08:28, 7 June 2007 (EDT) Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 18:05, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Baku Metro 1.jpg[edit]

Despite Wikipedia's dubious claims to the contrary, this is almost certainly a copyvio of an official map. Note how the diagram is slanted, and the text in the center is illegibly small even at maximum enlargement. Jpatokal 13:16, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Good catch Jani, I didn't notice that one at all. I've just started making a new version of the map for Wikitravel, will upload it in a few mins. -- Tim (writeme!) 06:28, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
Done. Delete this one. -- Tim (writeme!) 07:01, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 18:05, 23 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Republique1.jpg[edit]

Added without licensing information and picture is of a private establishment (hotel front). --Peterfitzgerald Talk 19:35, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 03:47, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:Local Children Lake Malawi.JPG[edit]

Adorable privacy violation. - Todd VerBeek 22:33, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 03:49, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Image:SturgisSD.jpg[edit]

Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 03:50, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Sesriem[edit]

Should probably be merged into Sossusvlei. Jpatokal 02:53, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Merged and redirected to Sossusvlei --NJR_ZA 04:01, 24 June 2007 (EDT)


Afsluitdijk[edit]

  • Delete - Not an article --NJR_ZA 10:56, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
  • This article has already gone through the VFD process - see Talk:Afsluitdijk. There wasn't a lot of comment at the time, so we may want to re-examine this one (in which case I don't have an opinion either way). -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:57, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
  • Yeah, let's merge and redirect this as a famous attraction into North Holland (picked because that end of the dijk is closer to Amsterdam, and therefore more likely to be seen first by tourists). - Todd VerBeek 17:26, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Merged and redirected to North-Holland --NJR_ZA 04:38, 24 June 2007 (EDT)


You shouldn't have revealed my IP address since now you shall be punished[edit]

  • Outcome: Speedy deleted --NJR_ZA 09:09, 24 June 2007 (EDT)