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Archive for Wikitravel:Votes for deletion acted on in August 2007. If you can't find the chronicle that interests you here, try Wikitravel:Votes for deletion/July 2007 or Wikitravel:Votes for deletion/September 2007 for things that may have happened earlier or later, respectively.


  • Delete. I uploaded a more detailed map, this one is fairly useless for travel – cacahuate talk 02:21, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete on en, but keep a copy on shared for other languages. I have to say the replacement map isn't all that much better either, mostly because it uses the "old" (real) names instead of the atoll codes -- this map off Wikipedia is better, esp. as it even lists all the hotels. I'm not entirely convinced about its claimed "PD" status though. Jpatokal 03:15, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 06:24, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

Woodstock (Cape Town)[edit]

  • Delete - Cape Town is not nearly ready to be divided into suburbs/districts and this article does not really add anything of value to the traveler --NJR_ZA 09:47, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect. How about setting up a redirect to Cape Town? WindHorse 09:43, 17 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect to Cape Town. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 12:53, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Image:Xel-Ha picture.jpg[edit]

Looks like a copyvio and might anyway not be according to our style. Delete. --Flip666 writeme! • 06:40, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Three out of four images on the Xel-Ha page have text printed over them, so look like copyright violations. I found the restaurant one on the resort's own pages. Speedy delete all three? Pashley 12:41, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete all 3 - For now I have removed them where they were used on the Xel-Ha article --NJR_ZA 18:01, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete, delete, and delete some more. --Peter Talk 22:44, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 06:28, 7 August 2007 (EDT)


  • An article about a mountain in the Andes. Text copyvioed from Wikipedia [1]. Recommend redirecting to Andes. WindHorse 21:13, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect to Andes sounds right as this is not an article. And as a heads up, the anon came around and undid the vfd and copyvio removal on the article. --Peter Talk 22:44, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Nah, just delete it. This isn't a destination, and a redirect doesn't really make sense. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:47, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
This is an attraction (for trekking), as a quick google search will show, and the outcome of this rather lengthy discussion was that we should redirect whenever possible for anything that could be an actual place/attraction (but restaurants and hotels still get the speedy). --Peter Talk 01:36, 30 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Redirected to Andes --NJR_ZA 06:30, 7 August 2007 (EDT)


  • Delete - Not an article ---NJR_ZA 04:39, 2 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Speedy-delete - obviously an ad. --Flip666 writeme! • 05:30, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 06:34, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

Trans-Kalahari Highway[edit]

I don't know much about this road, but it looks like a non-article to me. --Peter Talk 15:47, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Unsure. There are quite a lot of articles about the route, so it could be developed into a travel topic: [2] and [3]. Where is our South Africa expert?: NJR_ZA. --- WindHorse 12:32, 12 July 2007 (EDT) 20:57, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
Delete - I think the article as it stands is just about complete; it is long, hot and boring with very little of interest along the way. Travelers may use portions of it to get around, but I don't think it requires it's own article. --NJR_ZA 05:52, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
Delete based on NJR_ZA's recommendation. WindHorse 12:36, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
DeleteI am not a wikiT member, but I think this article doesn't deserve any right on its own!! - I think the article as it stands is just about complete. FYI I have been traveling this route!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)
Keep The only reason I put this in is because the highway can be an important connection for people who want a "quick" connection between Windhoek and Gaberone. It is one of the main highways in southern Africa, even if it is long and boring. When I drove it 2 years ago, I was glad to have seen a description of it in Lonely Planet. -German Guy
Keep. NJR writes "Travelers may use portions of it to get around, but I don't think it requires it's own article." OK, but it does no harm and some travellers might use the info, so I don't think it requires deletion either. Pashley 12:49, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
OK, how about Redirect to Botswana and move the little bit of info on that page to Botswana#Get_around? I just can't see how this page can every grow beyond it's current content in order to become a real article
Fine by me. Pashley 10:20, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
Undecided. To me the question isn't whether an itinerary article is "interesting," it's whether it's "valuable." How long does this thing take, and how many people use it? If the answer is "several days" and "more than the occasional vehicle," I could see the article expanding into an itinerary, "long, hot and boring" or not. More info, please. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 12:51, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect to Botswana. The creator of the article says above that its main purpose is to connect Windhoek and Gaberone... so it can be mentioned then in the "Get in" sections on those pages, and in "Get around" on the Botswana page. I don't think we should create articles on roads, unless they're a part of an itinerary with a point of view. If you were traversing California from north to south, Highway 1 could make a good itinerary, because it's a route someone would take because of the journey, and for what there is to see along the way. Interstate 5, however, would just be mentioned on the California page, because you would most likely take that if you were just trying to get from point A to point B. So if it has more in common with Hwy 1 than I-5, someone speak up... At any rate we don't seem to have a consensus to keep, which is what is needed – cacahuate talk 19:29, 6 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Info merged into Botswana#Get around and article Redirected to Botswana --NJR_ZA 14:03, 12 August 2007 (EDT)


Laying aside possible copyvio issues, we don't usually use non-photographic clip art to illustrate destination articles. If someone can find an actual photo of the dance in question, that's OK, but ... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:56, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete. Not in accordance with our Wikitravel:Image policy --Peter Talk 22:44, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. Not in accordance with policy on images containing people. WindHorse 20:52, 27 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 14:07, 12 August 2007 (EDT)


Graffiti, delete --Flip666 writeme! • 18:02, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Actually, this looks to me like a well intentioned contribution. And since Galmudug is a region of Somalia (with its own government and some degree of sovereignty no less), I say keep and add a region template, but remove most of the current information, as it is not travel relevant. --Peter Talk 18:12, 27 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Keep. It is an actual region that is seeking to gain semi-independent status within a united Somalia. See WP article for reference: [4]. WindHorse 20:49, 27 July 2007 (EDT)
  • added template, de-orphaned. Keep. --Flip666 writeme! • 05:44, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Kept -- NJR_ZA 14:11, 12 August 2007 (EDT)

Anna Nagar[edit]

Anna Nagar is a suburb of Chennai. In the future it might be worth considering it as an independent article, However, as Chennai has not yet been split into districts and Anna Nagar has no major attractions, I recommend redirect to Chennai for the time being. Here's the WP article on Anna Nagar for reference: [5]. WindHorse 08:29, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Keep, at least for now. We are somewhat inconsistent in the way we handle suburbs of large cities. However, if it really is a suburb (and I realize that the term connotes different things in different places), the norm seems to be that if someone goes to the effort of creating a page for the suburb, it stays put, until a more integrated approach to the metropolitan area is taken. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:59, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
    • I disagree (ad hoc districting is evil), but even by that logic it should be under Chennai/Anna Nagar, not the present name. Jpatokal 13:12, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Redirect. I agree with Jani, I would really prefer to see districting & regioning done systematically, it can be a major pain to undo ad hoc districting when creating a valid district scheme. --Peter Talk
  • Redirect. I authored this article and I think it should be redirected to Chennai.

Outcome: Redirected to Chennai/Anna Nagar. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 15:39, 12 August 2007 (EDT)

Delaware House Travel Plaza[edit]

  • Delete. Not an article, and no useful content either. Candidate for speedy if that's the consensus. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:43, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Speedy delete. Borderline vandalism. --Peter Talk 13:54, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Speedy delete. Gorilla Jones 15:43, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted, speedy or not. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 16:11, 12 August 2007 (EDT)

Image:Saffron Caffe.jpg[edit]

Not in accordance with our Wikitravel:Image policy WindHorse 04:38, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

I already speedied this one and left the contributor an explanatory note. --Peter Talk 05:10, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
But strangely, it appears that it is still there. Apparently I do not know what I am doing ;) --Peter Talk 05:16, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
Add Image:Saffron Coffee.jpg to the vfd pile. It is an apparent copyvio. --Peter Talk 05:19, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Keep!! The people aren't travellers, but Lao people working there. Tourists don't just go to see buildings and places--the most interesting thing are the people. Also, this is important because it is the only place in the world travellers can get Luang Prabang coffee.

  • Delete. According to laws in many countries any photo with recognizable people requires a release from those people explicitly stating that the photo can be published. As a result, Wikitravel deletes photos with recognizable people. See Wikitravel:Image policy#People_in_photos. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:10, 1 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. Ryan's assessment is correct, and there's no way around it, short of getting the releases. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 15:49, 12 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 14:30, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Image:Falls kuang si.jpg[edit]

Looks like a delete candidate. WindHorse 04:41, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete - tagged with text --NJR_ZA 14:30, 12 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 14:33, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Costa rica rental car[edit]

Advert, not an article, but someone might want to make this a real article --NJR_ZA 03:48, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

  • no improvement till now. Delete --Flip666 writeme! • 16:50, 8 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 14:35, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Airport in Norman, Oklahoma[edit]

Nonsensical title, so suggest delete rather than redirect to Norman (Oklahoma). WindHorse 12:46, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 12:25, 14 August 2007 (EDT)

Ninety's Sandwiches & Icecream[edit]

Outcome: Deleted; content in Charlotte/University City. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 23:16, 15 August 2007 (EDT)


Last I checked categories were still not in use. Jpatokal 06:54, 3 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:00, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

Instituto Cultural Oaxaca[edit]

Not an article as per Wikitravel:What is an article? -- Tim (writeme!) 08:40, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 13:48, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

Image:Shilin Market Vendor.JPG[edit]

Not in accordance with our Wikitravel:Image policy WindHorse 00:30, 5 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete. Those sausages look disgusting! – cacahuate talk 18:47, 6 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 13:54, 19 August 2007 (EDT)


  • Outcome: Speedy Deleted - Create by spammer --NJR_ZA 17:18, 20 August 2007 (EDT)


  • Outcome: Speedy Deleted - Created by spammer --NJR_ZA 17:18, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Sunday River[edit]

  • Outcome: Speedy Deleted - Created by spammer --NJR_ZA 17:22, 20 August 2007 (EDT)


  • Outcome: Speedy Deleted - Created by spammer --NJR_ZA 17:22, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Fort lejune[edit]

  • Outcome: Speedy Deleted - Created by spammer and article name is spelled incorrectly --NJR_ZA 17:25, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Sandakan Memorial Park[edit]

Borderline at best, doesn't pass the sleep test. I've done a quick content merge into Sandakan. Jpatokal 11:16, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:48, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Kundasang War Memorial[edit]

As above. I've done a quick content merge into Kundasang. Jpatokal 11:21, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:53, 20 August 2007 (EDT)


  • Delete. This one doesn't include Afghanistan, which we include in Central Asia, but I've uploaded a new one that does – cacahuate talk 18:46, 6 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:54, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

All Images by User:Chanfana[edit]

Users uploaded the following images and placed them on Elvas. Google search quickly showed all to have copyright issues. --NJR_ZA 16:10, 5 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 17:57, 20 August 2007 (EDT)


Not a destination. Delete Texugo 21:20, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Outcome: Speedy Deleted -- Fastestdogever 21:28, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

ICU and Image:ICU.jpg[edit]

Not an article, and the logo is a copyvio. Might be worth rescuing in part to Daejeon though. Jpatokal 00:40, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Delete. Per Wikitravel:What is an article?. The contributors may want to copy some of the content to the city in which the school is located. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:45, 7 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 01:31, 23 August 2007 (EDT)


A district of a city that has not been created yet... -- Tim (writeme!) 11:42, 8 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 01:33, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Grossglockner Hochalpenstrasse[edit]

Is a road, so doesn't warrant an article. Besides that, there's not much info here of use to travellers. Could potentially be an itinerary, but I'm not convinced there's enough information for that. -- Tim (writeme!) 08:50, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Merge and Redirect as per Flip666's suggestion seems to be the best action --NJR_ZA 18:04, 20 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Outcome: Merge and Redirect --Flip666 writeme! • 08:37, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

St. Andrews, Scotland[edit]

Two (different) articles on the same place: St. Andrews, Scotland and St Andrews. Content from the first has now been merged into the second. Delete or Redirect? I would say delete, but it was fairly significant content, so I'm not sure. WTDuck2 15:43, 14 August 2007 (EDT)

  • The norm in situations like this is to merge and redirect. The "St. Andrews, Scotland" title is formatted the way Wikipedia (among others) handles place names, and while we use a different formatting, people used to Wikipedia would do searches using this format. A redirect to St Andrews (which itself might need examination for a possible disambiguation) helps us be responsive to their needs, and costs nothing. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 11:19, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
OK, that makes sense. And the disambiguation is probably a good idea, because there's also a St. Andrews page (with .), which is a different place in Canada. WTDuck2 06:22, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

I'll leave this up for a day or two, but given your agreement, I've gone ahead and done the redirect. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 14:33, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Redirected to St Andrews. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 12:23, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Express Comedy‎[edit]

  • Delete. This may have been an addition meant for Wikipedia, but it's not a travel article per Wikitravel:What is an article?. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:00, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. Gorilla Jones 19:14, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Speedy delete. Obvious non-article. Jpatokal 22:51, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 22:27, 25 August 2007 (EDT)


Image licensed under GFDL, and not CCbySA, upon looking at source website, it appears not to be even GFDL... -- Tim (writeme!) 04:53, 12 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:22, 26 August 2007 (EDT)


  • Delete. This may have been an addition meant for Wikipedia, but it's not a travel article per Wikitravel:What is an article?. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:00, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. Gorilla Jones 19:14, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Speedy delete. Obvious non-article. Jpatokal 22:51, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:48, 26 August 2007 (EDT)


  • Delete. This may have been an addition meant for Wikipedia, but it's not a travel article per Wikitravel:What is an article?. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:00, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Delete. Gorilla Jones 19:14, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Speedy delete. Obvious non-article. Jpatokal 22:51, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:48, 26 August 2007 (EDT)

Japans man Jhon[edit]

  • Outcome: Speedy Deleted. Obvious non-article --NJR_ZA 06:12, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

Image:Ja-map.png and Image:Ks-map.png[edit]

Delete. These images already exists as shared:Image:Ja-map.png and shared:Image:Ks-map.png, but for unknown reasons someone has re-uploaded them on the English language site. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:23, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Outcome: Deleted --NJR_ZA 06:15, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

Public transport lines in Australia[edit]

I am not sure what to do with this page... Seems like a list of some (all?) major bus lines in Australia, without any comments. Difficult to keep up to date. But on the other hand it might be handy, because the company running the respective line is listed. What do you think? I am unsure. --Flip666 writeme! • 05:35, 3 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Maintaining that list will be next to impossible. List (full listing, url, email, phone fax etc) the the bus/train services listed there that operates nationally to Australia#Get_around and list the ones that operate locally in the appropriate region? Then delete the page? --NJR_ZA 18:13, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Deleted. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:22, 28 August 2007 (EDT)


Copyright vio - from googlemaps. 12:33, 31 August 2007 (EDT)

  • Speedy delete. --Peter Talk 12:45, 31 August 2007 (EDT)

Outcome: Speedy deleted. --Peter Talk 12:45, 31 August 2007 (EDT)