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Pisew Falls[edit]

I hope your visit looks more like the first picture on Pisew Falls Provincial Park, and not like the second one. :) - Todd VerBeek 15:26, 17 July 2006 (EDT)

The reason it was still a "stub" is because it didn't have a complete outline, with all the sections we usually put on a national/provincial/state park article. I've added the missing section headers, which may give you some suggestions for what else to add to the article. It isn't essential that the sections all be there, but if (for example) there is nothing at all to buy at the park (not even souvenir snow globes) it's usually best to say that, rather than not having a "Buy" section and leaving people to wonder. I've upgraded the article to "outline". It's very close to the next step up ("usablecity" - there isn't a separate status indicator for usable park articles); the criteria for that are spelled out at Wikitravel:City guide status. I look forward to seeing what more you can do with the article when you get back! - Todd VerBeek 15:55, 17 July 2006 (EDT)

FYI, Wikitravel guidelines consider any place you can't spend the night (whether camping, in a hotel, etc.) an "attraction", rather than a "destination". The difference is that a destination gets its own article, but an attraction is supposed to be included in an article for wherever you would sleep when visiting it. For example, you can't sleep at the Statue of Liberty, so regardless of how popular it is, it's part of the article for New York City instead of being the subject of its own article. While I agree with this policy in principle, I think it falls apart a little for remote parks and such which are bigger "destinations" than the nearest city would be. So to avoid anyone questioning whether this is a valid article subject on the grounds that "you can't sleep there", it might be a good idea to include some "Sleep" options in the article, even if they happen to be outside the park boundaries (such as those in Sassigiu Rapids). After all, without that info listed, it really isn't "usable" for travelers planning a visit to the park. - Todd VerBeek 21:53, 17 July 2006 (EDT)