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Hi, just checking if your account is still all ok, with all the vandalism going on I may have deleted something, so send me a message ok? Thanks! Adzas (talk) 06:41, 21 January 2021 (EST) , Yeah I'm ok my page may have been blanked but that's okay I can start brand new. Most previous messages are from months ago so I don't need them. I'm more concerned with the guy making many alts. Thanks.Tut (talk)

Hey Tut, I see some discussions on your user page, maybe with all the mess they ended up there. You may want to copy and paste them here. GiulioC (talk) 09:44, 21 January 2021 (EST)

Discussions reposted[edit]

Hello Tut! Welcome to Wikitravel.

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Edit war[edit]

I reverted your edit on Amarillo. If you're not happy with the article's content please use its talk page to discuss the issue. GiulioC (talk) 09:49, 19 March 2019 (EDT)

Your edit on United States.[edit]

Your recent edits on United States had to be reverted as it removed some serious information. It is ILLEGAL under Federal law in the United States for adults to approach, let alone interact with, children they don't know, and it's enforced by the FBI and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Guys especially can face up to 100 years to life in Federal prison. Also, it is considered inappropriate, even illegal, to approach and/or interact with anyone you see that is in a "clique" in the United States. In the United States, when you see that someone is in a clique or group, you are expected to leave them alone and stay away from them. Tires (talk) 00:13, 23 July 2019 (EDT) I strongly disagree with all of those claims. We are not here to incite fearmongering and as an American living in the US all almost 27 years of my life I know that none of these concerns were ever a real threat or concern.Tut (talk) 00:34, 23 July 2019 (EDT)

To answer your earlier question. No, I *am* Thomas.W. There's no other me and I have no reason for any other accounts. So if any *new* account bearing my name or hassling me comes along, go ahead and block it. Thomas.W (talk) 17:22, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

ok. Tut (talk)

The troll[edit]

To answer your question from several days ago. Yes it *was" another or the same troll. Thanks. Thomas.W (talk) 16:55, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

Ok he got banned again. I suspect the former troll made a new account. Tut (talk)

Edit war regarding Australia and Australian states articles.[edit]

Hi Tut, I don't know why you're convinced that Australia is bad or dangerous for lgbt people, because it isn't.

Australia is ranked 5th highest worldwide for lgbt people, has multiple lgbt pride festivals, and lgbt people are protected under law and have the same rights as others.

Why are you posting on Australian pages that Australia is dangerous for LGBT people to visit? Ypu don't seem like a troll as you have made useful edits to a number of non-Australian articles.

Thanks MottX (talk) 12:42, 2 June 2021 (EDT) MottX (talk) 12:42, 2 June 2021 (EDT)

I'm not a troll I have seen mixed sources saying sime areas are friendly some are more conservative just like anywhere. The more conservative religious area are riskier for LGBT Tut (talk)

Your sources are incorrect. There is overwhelming evidence that Australia is highly lgbt friendly. Even if some areas may be more conservative, that is not cause to classify the entire country as anti-lgbt and to make sweeping statements about police and the country. We have pride parades and festivals in Australia. When I used to go to school I did so at a Catholic school, and even they promoted gay and transgender rights, including it in our education. This issue has come up before, and multiple editors, including IBJoel, have sided with the fact that Australia is LGBT friendly, as are most Western countries. MottX (talk) 22:30, 2 June 2021 (EDT)

See my compromise edit in Australia. Then see the talk page before we do anything else. Cheers. Tut (talk) 07:50, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

Your edit was not a compromise. You are making the same false claims. See my post on Australia talk page. Multiple administrators of WikiTravel agree with me and the argument that Australia is lgbt-friendly, as do statistics, personal experiences, and wikipedia. Please do not revert. Cheers. MottX (talk) 10:18, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

I disagree. We can both be heard it doesn't have to be an either or situation. See this new version. Thanks. Tut (talk)

This is absurd. This is like if I put on the USA page that "Americans are all idiots who live in rivers" and then we compromise edited to "Most Americans live in lakes". A compromise does not work when one side is still just lying and being disingenuous. Please stop claiming false things about Australia. Please tell me why you think this? MottX (talk) 10:44, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

Read these also second source you need to just copy it doen't appear correctly in html form Some sources to proof factuality https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/queenslands-alarming-gay-phobia-20101115-17txg.html smh.com.au/national/antigay-hate-crime-rife-in-qld-study-20100603-x2d4.html thee proof what I mean Tut (talk) 10:49, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

Those sources are over 10 years old. Multiple laws have been passed, and attitudes have greatly shifted since 2009 and 2010. You have purposefully chosen older articles which support your point, also called cherrypicking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking. MottX (talk) 10:51, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

I have made a compromise edit to Queensland. MottX (talk) 10:56, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

Repeating a complete revert is not a compromise edit. There are no new sources saying these attitudes improved. I'm not cherrypicking just posting what I could and I looked while open to the idea of finding sources that supported either your claims or mine but claims were the only supported by anything. Tut (talk) 11:03, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

I only just published the edits. Please read. 11:11, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

Please see my edition. Tut (talk) 11:16, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

Just an FYI, the Northern Territory is the official name for Australia's northern state, not "Northern Australia". I have added clarifications that resorts in far-north qld are safe, but to be careful in rural towns and areas in QLD and NT. MottX (talk) 11:25, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

I removed that discrimination is rare and put back that it sometimes occurs since it seems more common than you think and may not always be reported. Also, there could be some conservative parts of Brisbane so I changed it to some parts of Brisbane are LGT friendly. This maybe a situation like Chicago which has its liberal and conservative areas. The main highway there is where LGBT activity is strong but the rest of the area surrounding the main business district of Chicago are hostile. Also we can't prove that discrimination and anti-gay views aren't in other parts of Queensland so I changed it to outside of Brisbane these attitudes and situations occur since there is nothing saying it's isolated.Tut (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2021 (EDT)

North-east queensland is the most anti-lgbt. This was shown in the map that was in the source you provided earlier. I have changed to article to reflect this. I have also changed wording to suggest discrim and violence is possible, but have not made it seem safe or dangerous. Brisbane itself is known for being very lgbt friendly in almost every area, so I have kept this in. MottX (talk) 11:35, 3 June 2021 (EDT)