User talk:Triskelle

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Add new Talk topic with Triskelle relating to edit done[edit]

Hi Triskelle

I see you removed the link which I added today because I saw some other third party of travel agency website are added there, it is fair for the links I created to live there as well, I can not understand why you want to remove our one but can allow the other ones to be live. Please be fair and treat us equally fairly. Thank yo

Thank you for your message, Wikitibet! I'll see what I can do for you, just please don't add the same Listing on multiple pages, also don't add the same listing more then ones for one article, you don't need to change other user's listings for your own without a proper explanation and don't put your own listing on top of others, please don't refer for Wikipedia because we don't allow attributions to be placed in the text. Because of this we can't accept information from any other site, thought sites can freely take our text so long as they can attribute us.
Also Wikitravel should link directly to primary sources and not link to secondary sources to find primary links(i.e official tourism sites for current events).

--Triskelle (talk) 10:01, 8 February 2017 (EST)

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I see you removed my link to our Vibescout--Tibet travel (talk) 08:42, 8 February 2017 (EST) daily update of events in Pretoria under the Do section:

  • Entertainment. check out Vibescout to find daily updates on current events happening in Pretoria. Experience authentic local markets, art exhibitions, nightlife, live music events and more - don't limit yourself to only the traditional tourist activities.  edit

My understanding under External link usage allows for this and would benefit tourists - as it is a dynamic list of current events in Pretoria - not an aggregate static list of venues or clubs etc. The official Pretoria tourism site does not provide this service http://gopretoria.co.za/ - many smaller official tourism sites use our API to add a list to their sites. There are three possible uses for external links: • In-article text links: Links within the article text should be kept to a minimum and generally should point only to primary sources. Examples of valid links to primary sources, might include ... and sites offering daily updates .... I would appreciate it if you could clarify the reason for the edit. Regards Marc


Hello, I removed your link to Vibescout, because it looks like an External link, and it's against our rules:
1.External links should point to primary sources.
2.Avoid links to: Nightlife guides and reviews in nightlife guides, blogs, forums and social networking sites, service directories... Hope it will help!

Kind Regards, --Triskelle (talk) 11:05, 5 December 2016 (EST)

You are correct - it is an external link - which is permissible, subject to meeting the criteria: 1. Vibescout crawls the web to find current events for specific tourism destinations and then provides the traveler with a list of current events - so in essence it creates a primary source of data due to its arrangement per city (some official tourism sites like Stellenbosch use our API to provide an up to date list of events Official Stellenbosch Tourism Site, but for many cities there are no event lists available) 2. Vibescout is not a guide/review/blog/forum/social networking/service directory - that would be static information that should be captured directly in Wikitravel and not linked 3. Vibescout is a site that offers daily updates of all events in a city - this is dynamic content and couldn't be captured in Wikitravel, hence requiring an external link (as per the Eternal Link article, heading External Link Usage, 3rd point In-article text links which permits sites offering daily updates) Regards Marc --Vibescout (talk) 9:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC+2)

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Added question about deleted listing[edit]

What is exactly the criteria you are using to determine there are enough listings on the "Eat" section on Luang Prabang page? The page has around thirty cafes and restaurants listed while in the downtown area itself must have them at least ten or twenty times more. Compared to some other towns thirty isn’t really that much, such as Vientiane or Chiang Mai which has around fifty. Jantteri666 (talk) 23:53, 17 December 2016 (EST)

Hello! Thank you for your message. Our policy is very clear, we don´t want Wikitravel to become like the Yellow Pages (Avoid long lists), we just want a small collection of listings, see our goals. It’s mean no more than about 5 - 10 listings in each category (Budget, Mid-range and Splurge). Also if you feel a listing should be replaced or removed, then this can be discussed on the talk page of the article. Kind Regards, --Triskelle (talk) 14:25, 18 December 2016 (EST)
In not sure if this is a right place to discuss whether that is actually a good goal for an online publication which is getting updated by different users over the time while practically no one is taking the care to edit outdated listings. What did bug me here is the fact that on the listing of "Cafes and restaurants" I did found only one similar kind of restaurant which could be considered budget friendly and popular both with locals and tourists. So, should I in order to list relevan information to readers which I would be assume to be the main target group, "budget travellers" or whatever you want to call it, also be responsible to edit the listing to be in accordance with the general goals (which by the way no one seems to actually follow due to the reason I mentioned above)? If that is yes, I think I will most of the time choose to rather enjoy my travelling time and not to share the information than spent it on editorial work and try to do the impossible guesswork to determine which information should be removed as outdated, or try to determine what is irrelevant/repetitive. Or in other words, isn't the goal actually quite counterproductive if new listings get removed because the "list is full" while the old listings stay practically intact years after years? Is that what an online publication should really be? By the way, I think you might have missed the point what is the actual difference between "goals" (flexible set of objectives that is tried to achieve, something "nice to have") and "rules". Jantteri666 (talk) 16:04, 18 December 2016 (EST)

Petra Removal[edit]

Hi Triskelle,

I saw that you removed my listing under Budget Sleep for Petra. It was my first edit to wikitravel despite using wikitravel extensively over the years. I didn't understand I wasn't supposed to add new listings to the top and so I've put it back in further down on the list.

As for your reasons for removal, I want to stress that I am NOT a tout. I'm an avid traveler who often travels solo and I do a lot of research because I'm female. In fact I've read some rather questionable things about some of the budget sleep options listed on the Petra wikitravel page for solo female safety (like Valentine's Inn, you can just Google it. I also heard not so good things while I was traveling in Petra). I really wanted to recommend the homestay I stayed in because I do not believe it is like the other listings on Petra wikitravel. If you do any research on Petra you will see warnings for solo females in terms of harassment and safety and I truly believe that this place deserves a spot on the Petra wikitravel.

If I need to make any changes to the listing please let me know. If you want me to make more contributions to the Petra wikitravel page that's fine as well or if you want me to verify my identity that I'm not a tout I can do it too! I just believe very strongly in Mousa and wanted to help other female travelers.

- Lucy —The preceding comment was added by Lucy1208 (talkcontribs)

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