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Hi - I'm not entirely sure that a mountain pass meets the criteria for Wikitravel:What is an article?. If there is a town at the pass then we're all good, or if the pass can be considered a region then it would be a valid topic, otherwise the information should be included in the containing region article. If the pass is a valid town/region, please use the Wikitravel:Small city article template or the Wikitravel:Region article template.

That minor nit aside, thanks for all of your recent contributions! -- Ryan 04:26, 13 April 2006 (EDT)

I'm not sure either, but there was already a link to Bolan Pass in the Quetta article. There is a town or two in it, but I don't know their names. It doesn't really fit in any containing region since it is between Af and Pakistan. I suppose it might be considered a region on its own, but that is odd. Easiest to just mention it, without a link, in both Kandahar & Quetta articles, I think. I've done that and proposed it for deletion.

Other similar things I've edited are Khyber Pass and Karakoram Highway. They are major routes and have towns, so I don't see a problem there. Do you? Pashley 08:11, 13 April 2006 (EDT)

If it's a major route with towns that doesn't really fit into any other region then it seems like a good candidate for a region article, or possibly an itinerary article. That decision is (obviously) up to you since you know the area, so just use whichever template fits. If no template fits then we probably need to figure out where else the information could go. Either way, you seem to have a good grasp of what you're doing now, so I'll trust your better judgement. Thanks again for helping out. -- Ryan 12:29, 13 April 2006 (EDT)


Thanks for dealing with the Travel Topics! Majnoona 20:56, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

What's the right way to do that, though? I've been copying the "this is a Wikitravel ..." line, but Money uses an isIn Travel topics tag and I wonder if there's a susbt or other simple tag that puts in the right consistent text

You should really use Template:Traveltopic, I think. Also, Wikitravel is spelt with a lowercase t. --Evan 23:49, 21 April 2006 (EDT)
To use the Travel topic template all you have to do is type {{traveltopic}} and place it at the top of the article. Sapphire 02:00, 22 April 2006 (EDT)
Sorry no one showed that to you earlier. The only reason I knew about that is because I happened to catch Evan doing that. I went back and added into some of the articles you already worked on. Sapphire 02:20, 22 April 2006 (EDT)
I think Maj created it yesterday afternoon in response to Pashley's question right here! --Evan 07:36, 22 April 2006 (EDT)
Thanks. I've been meaning to go over my contributions, but you beat me to it. BTW: The regions might work this way: the North would be both East and Central Estonia and Tallinn would be kept separately. It's small country, so it doesn't make sense to split into too many regions imo. -Visitestonia 03:50, 28 October 2009 (EDT)

Test old names[edit]

I've created a few redirects from historically well-known names like Simla and Jogjakarta to the current official spellings. Test here whether others are needed. Calcutta Madras Bombay Canton Mumbai Kolkata Chennai Marrakesh Cape Breton Leningrad Stalingrad Zaire Congo Outer Mongolia Khumbu Buffalo City Orugallu Nanking Peking Congo-Kinshasa Congo-Brazzaville Zhongdian Indian Subcontinent Ceylon Tamatave Mukden Krasnovodsk Chungking Macao Upper Volta Devonshire West Indies East Indies Saigon Eivissa Jbeil Hotan Trebizond Shigatse Khorat Korat Oudomxay Ayers Rock Hostile environment Gold Coast

Three parts of WuhanHankou Hanyang Wuchang

Hey Pashley, that's very helpful. Thanks. However, I'm wondering whether Canton should direct to Guangzhou, rather than Guangdong. It is true that 'Cantonese' refers to the language, people and cuisine of Guangdong province, but until very recently the city of Guangzhou was referred to as Canton in the West - there was no other name - whereas the province was already known as Guangdong overseas. The airport code for Guangzhou (CAN) reflects this. Anyway, I'm just throwing out some ideas here. I'll leave it to you to make the decision. WindHorse 23 April 06 Ps. I also think that it is about time to change the name of Calcutta to Kolkata - what are your thoughts?

Personally, I like the old names: Bombay, Madras, Simla, Jogjakarta, Calcutta, Burma, ... They're what I know and what I consider standard in English. If it were up to me, the pages would all use those names with redirects from the new ones. However, I don't think that matches policy. Using the new names is OK with me too, as long as there's a redirect.

I think you're right, so I changed Canton. Pashley 03:21, 23 April 2006 (EDT)

I have a question regarding Canton. There are many numerous places in the US that share the name Canton with the Chinese Guangzhou. Would it be wise to create a disambig page at Canton with a link to Guangzhou, or would that be counter productive? I, myself, had never heard of Guangzhou or Canton, which, suprised me since the city is home to 6 million. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 21:27, 27 June 2006 (EDT)
I'd say that's definitely one of those where there's a main one (London, England; Canton, China; Stockholm, Sweden) and the London, Ontario or whatever go on an "other uses" page. You should not have to go through disambiguation for "Canton"; it is one of the world's major cities. Pashley 00:41, 30 June 2006 (EDT)
I followed your advice and moved the diambig page at Canton to Canton (disambiguation). Thanks. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 00:54, 30 June 2006 (EDT)

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Just wanted to thank you for all your great work on China and places Chinese. 加油! Jpatokal 04:42, 3 May 2006 (EDT)

Nice work on China! Ricardo (Rmx) 23:31, 30 May 2006 (EDT)


Thanks for creating the Hajj article. I'd like to suggest that you add that link to One month in the Holy Land article. I created an Islamic version, but I believe a Hajj itinerary is much more suitable. Also, will you redirect the Islamic Holy Land article? Thanks. - Sapphire

Time zones[edit]

This is the second time you've removed the info that time zone designation "Z" comes from the old alphabetic zone labeling system (where it did stand for "zero" but was accompanied by zones A-M and N-Y). Are you disputing that there is such a thing, or do you just not want to mention it? - Todd VerBeek 20:33, 4 June 2006 (EDT)

I'd never heard of it, am not sure it's important, and cannot read the link you give (I'm in China and that's a US Navy site; I wonder which gov't blocks access; most likely China but who knows) but I believe you and it certainly does no harm, so I've put it back.

It's a copy of a map published by Her Majesty's Nautical Alamanac Office. I wanted to mention it because there are still maps published (like that one © 2004) that use it. - Todd VerBeek 07:37, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

Marco Polo intinerary[edit]

I'm living in China and reading Marco Polo, so I think I'll do an itinerary for that route. After some discussion, the name became On the trail of Marco Polo

Sex tourism policy[edit]

My suggested text: User talk:Pashley/STP

Tibet advice on Altitude sickness[edit]

Are you able to comment at Talk:Altitude sickness#The Tibet thing? I'm more curious than anything. Hypatia 01:02, 14 August 2006 (EDT)


Hi Sandy,

I have some trouble to change the cotw this week because I changed it on the porject page but the new cotw doesn't show. Could you have a look? Maybe i don't get it. It's in the

The current collaboration of the month is

Help out by plunging forward to make it into a star article!

formula. Thanks, Jan 03:08, 15 August 2006 (EDT)

Looks OK to me. I see correct tags on both everest and Project pages. Maybe you need to clear cache or some such to get it working. I'm probably the wrong person to ask, though. Just a contributor; I have no technical expertise or administrator privileges on this system. Try the TRavellers' Pub or ask Evan. Pashley 03:27, 15 August 2006 (EDT)


Thanks for the email. I'm going to look into it the place. I'm hoping to be in SE Asia next fall so I'll stop by there and check it out. I found this on CNN's website, which may be of use to you Traveling China's ancient Silk Road. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 17:25, 15 August 2006 (EDT)

Silk Road[edit]


i'm extremely interested in following as much of the silk road as possible from somewhere in china (possibly Xian) back to Istanbul. obviously it is somewhat impractical to travel though Baghdad at the moment and i would intend to travel through iran instead but was wondering if you had any prospect of a time-scale or budget for the trip?




I think it's more of a southern US thing. We mostly do it on spring-fed rivers on hot days. I find it hard to believe that someone has never heard of it, but I have a pretty locale-centric mindset at times. It seems pretty specific to the location to list on the topic page. Maybe we can get more input from people that are less surrounded by it? Jordanmills 13:54, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

Later I mentioned finding tubes for rent in Yangshuo & he replied:

That's pretty cool then! Quite topically, I'm going to be on canoeing stretch of a river tomorrow (race training and doing research for Canoeing the San Marcos River). I'll keep an ear out for more international tubing. Jordanmills 11:28, 16 March 2007 (EDT)


I just realized you weren't an admin, which surpised me, so I've taken the liberty of nominating you as an administrator. Would you stop by Wikitravel:Administrator nominations and tell us if you would like to accept or decline the nomination. Thanks! -- Sapphire 16:50, 1 October 2006 (EDT)


Hi Pashley, I would like to thank you for your great work on the Guangzhou page. I'll be travelling to Guangzhou again in December and last time I was there, I thought that the city is somewhat difficult to grasp. There are only few guidebooks that have anything about GZ and the maps are usually horrible or in Chinese.

I have been creating a vector street map, but my progress is starting to slow down, since I don't have the street names. Since you seem to have a lot of knowledge about the city, I wonder if you could take a look at the map I have created and give me some feedback? Also if you have any resources (online or offline) that you could point out, I would be happy. You can find my email address from my user page. Thanks!

-- Trsqr 23:42, 17 October 2006 (EET)


So, you've now been added as an admin. This means you'll see some extra tabs across the top of each page to protect or delete the page. In addition, you can now "rollback" edits by other users -- a fast way to revert. You'll also see some links to "block" or "ban" registered or anonymous users. You're free to use any of these functions as you see fit to help the project, but we very rarely use any of them except the rollback feature and "delete" (usually after a vote). Let me know if you have any questions, and thanks for taking on this job! --Evan 15:42, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

ABC Islands[edit]

I just converted the ABC Islands page you created into a disambiguation. Please revert this without hesitation if you think it's not appropriate - cheers. ~ 07:31, 21 November 2006 (EST)

Historic capitals[edit]

Hi Pahley, the historic capitals listing on the China article looks great and is very informative. However, as the 'cities' and 'other destination' sections function primarily as indexes offering people a convenient way to locate specific articles, I'm just wondering whether this information wouldn't be better suited placed under 'history'. Anyway, I'm just throwing out an opinion here. You know your way around, so I'll leave the decision in your capable hands. Cheers. WindHorse 09:17, 20 December 2006 (EST)

Good idea. I've done that. Pashley 00:51, 21 December 2006 (EST)


I don't know if you've seen the new recent changes patrol feature, but it's nice for seeing what edits in Special:Recentchanges have already been reviewed by another admin. To save some clicks, admins can set their own edits as "automatically patrolled" on the "edit" tab of Special:Preferences. --Evan 02:06, 21 December 2006 (EST)

Admin nomination[edit]

I've nominated User:Cacahuate to become an admin; please comment on Wikitravel:administrator nominations when you have some time. --Evan 01:28, 6 January 2007 (EST)

Yunnan sub-regions[edit]


Any chance you could have a look at recent changes to Yunnan#Regions? ~ 09:25, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Wikitravel ToC[edit]

Hi, Sandy. You had some comments about the Wikitravel ToC placement when we had the big dust-up last summer, so I wanted to make sure I got your feedback on the current design. When you get a chance, can you comment about [1] on [2]? --Evan 12:42, 5 April 2007 (EDT)


Thanks for your comment and changes to this article. I'm happy with your changes. Xania 16:46, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks :)[edit]

Thanks Sandy for the English link on wikiHow. You have reminded me that I need to more fully develop that project when all the others are completed! :) And always happy to hear any other suggestions you might have. And thanks for having a look there - I appreciate that you took the time to take a look.


Chinese Dam[edit]

Hey, do you know of plans to flood a region of China as a result of some kind of project (probably a dam)? Which region is this? I think the flooding is supposed to happen either this year or next year. -- Sapphire(Talk) • 20:43, 26 June 2007 (EDT)


Come vist us!! 2old 12:03, 24 July 2007 (EDT)


vfd discussion in progress. I say summarise and delete. Testing a summary at User talk:Pashley/TGR

Teaching English[edit]

Great work! Neat to see how that article has grown over the years. I think it's certainly ready for guide status, though star status for travel topics is a little fuzzier, isn't it (is there even one yet?)... Maj 23:27, 27 July 2007 (EDT)


Hello Pashley. Your location and contributions are great for Wikitravel. I have a older Sony digital camera (model mvc-FD880 with wide angle lens), that uses 3 1/2 floppy discs and recharges on US 110v. I would be willing to send it to you if you can use it. It is no longer any use to me and is in a drawer awaiting a user. 2old 09:55, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

Teaching English[edit]

I think it's improved. I'm sorry I haven't been of more help - I'm wrapped up in the Chicago project and that greedily saps my every moment on Wikitravel. I think the article could use coverage of a few more important topics: visas, most importantly; I'd like to see how they are acquired, and corollary to that, which places hire from overseas (China, Japan, Korea). Also, the commerce question: is it a school or a business (e.g. teacher as salesman), which is a shock to the systems of many people who expect to be like their fifth grade teacher and are instead pimping a pink bunny rabbit for two year olds. It's tough to cover so many work situations in one article. I could foresee Teaching English in Japan covering a whole page quite easily, for example. Does that help at all? Gorilla Jones 02:01, 1 November 2007 (EDT)


So I shouldn't fix them? I don't understand. --The Yeti 11:14, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Nevermind, I totally misread your comment. Thanks for the encouragement. --The Yeti 11:17, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Gay travel[edit]

I applied the banner, which felt seriously weird since I believe quite strongly that the article should not be deleted (and for that matter, some of the things cited as examples of why it quote-unquote "should" be deleted should also have articles, IMO) -- but you're right, we should follow due process here. That probably entails giving it (exactly) its full two weeks, even though a clear consensus to keep is emerging, apart from the one wingnut. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:20, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Links to employment agencies[edit]

Just checking that you've seen this: Wikitravel talk:External links#Employment agencies ~ 00:35, 25 January 2008 (EST)


I just freaked out over the Get In page on DORI that I tried to fix (punctuation & grammar). Somehow, the layout section (and the whole article's page layout) went awry and askew. Can anyone get this page fixed, PLEASE? Because I have no idea how -- would appreciate that. Route66

Admin nomination[edit]

Hey, I just nominated User:LtPowers for sysop status. I'd appreciate it if you would comment here. Thanks! --Peter Talk 19:00, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Renting a car[edit]

Hi Pashley. Thanks for all your numerous fixes of grammar for Renting a car--they really help the article a lot. --DenisYurkin 11:02, 10 October 2008 (EDT)


Your edit just nuked 75% of Dali, am I missing something or was that an accident? Jpatokal 07:56, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Accident. Pashley 08:04, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Routebox navigation[edit]

Hi there. I have proposed a new route-based navigation system and implemented it for a test region. Everyone seems really anxious to start rolling this out, but I want to make sure our strongest contributors like you are behind this, since it may very well sweep the site. The discussion is now here. If you could give it a whirl and let me know your thoughts, I would be grateful. Thanks in advance! Texugo 11:54, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Edmonton CotM[edit]

I was wondering if you would be able to help in Edmonton's Cotm and discuss in the discussion page what you think needs to be fixed. It would be a great help. Thank you! Ring me in my talk. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 14:07, 18 December 2008 (EST).

License upgrade[edit]

I see you added license upgrade to the tech requests. It's actually not an issue for the tech team—IB has already given the go ahead with the upgrade. The problem was the inability of our community to reach a consensus on the matter. The only way to get it done, I think, would be for the community to reevaluate the idea, and to see whether anyone still objects. I'm staying out of it, though, my opinion is clear by now, and I expended enough goodwill on the last round! --Peter Talk 23:15, 6 January 2009 (EST)

the royal-imperial route in poznań[edit]

Hello, the article The Royal-Imperial Route is linked to Poznań site on Wikitravel. This tour is special one. That's not only some monuments but a route showing history and culutre of the city. There are some articels on Wikipedia about The Royal-Imperial Route, too. We add on the website links to articles in other languages.

Best wishes Trakt Królewsko-Cesarski


Thanks for catching my accidental revert-of-a-revert here. Apparently I was editing from the history when I removed the warning and failed to notice the "old version" warning, so many thanks for double-checking. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:08, 20 February 2009 (EST)


Feel like cleaning up recent revisions to China? Someone made a little history mess, you might be best suited to sort it out :) – cacahuate talk 20:32, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

China Link to Conversion Rates[edit]

Why did you undo my edit adding the link to current conversion rates? You mentioned "remove external link per policy, update text" where is that "policy". The page was the China page under Buy section.

Also, you changed the date to April, but NOT 2009 ... and if you clicked my link then used the info you found at the link to update the 6.88 to 6.83 ... then is that not a little hypocritical to remove the link, but use it to find the information?

Are we not after getting information that is usable and fresh ... not just stale and old.

Lastly, I was looking to get the Currency and do a conversion of some money ... the reason I made the edit was because I was looking for that information and surmised that the next person would find it useful as well. So I took the time to add it.

This is certainly no way to get well intentioned people to add useful items to the site.

I suppose you will just delete this comment as well.

Have a nice day.

Top Level Tour problem[edit]

My friend's agency's link is blocked. I think it has no problem to put it back in Guilin and Yangshuo section because "Wikitravel welcome business owners". Or please tell me what should we do to put it back without disbeying the rules. Thanks.

Iran CotM[edit]

Since you've been to Iran and you pledged support, I thought I'd just give you a heads up that it is this month's collaboration of the month. ChubbyWimbus 14:20, 2 August 2009 (EDT)

Korean Wikitravel[edit]

I'm not sure if you are aware, but the Korean pages are the templates for the Korean Wikitravel that is supposed to be created soon. See:

Unless you have the okay to delete these pages, perhaps you would restore them? ChubbyWimbus 23:24, 28 September 2009 (EDT)

Welcome messages[edit]

Thank you for your advice. I was just using a format based on PeterF's welcome message. Here for example. --Burmesedays 05:41, 29 September 2009 (EDT)


Hi there, I don't know if it's standard around here to reply on one's own talk page or on the talk page of the person who sent the message, but since I prefer to keep discussions together, I replied on my own talk page. I wanted to let you know so you can check if you want. Heimstern


Hi Sandy, the Star nomination of Bali is currently in discussion as User LtPowers objects the promotion due to grammar issues. You are a docent for English. Would you mind to check the article and if you see issues name or change them? This would be very much appreciated. Thank you very much in advance and have a nice day jan 06:07, 23 December 2009 (EST)


Thanks for your help fixing the syntax errors listed on User:Nicolas1981/Syntax_checks! Happy New Year! Nicolas1981 03:08, 5 January 2010 (EST)

Deactivate notice[edit]

Hi Sandy! I'm sorry to see you leave and wish you well. Would be great to see you come back one time in the future. jan 03:02, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

Something is odd here. I normally use Firefox on Linux; that + this site have had problems for months. I assumed it was the Great Firewall, but it does not seem to be; the site works OK with Internet Explorer on a different computer. Testing with a different browser (epiphany) on my machine, it is much better than with Firefox. Maybe one of my add-ons? I'll do some more testing and probably get it working at some point. Likely not soon. Pashley 00:58, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
Could be Sandy. I have had terrible problems with certain Firefox add-ons in the past. In my experience, Wikitravel works great a with a stripped down browser designed for speed. Google Chrome is the obvious one. Sometimes I cannot believe how quick Chrome is when patrolling for example. Saves a huge amount of time compared to any other browser I have used.--Burmesedays 01:14, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
I do not think it is only Firefox. Chrome on this machine is only marginally better. There are other oddities on my Internet connection, though this is the worst. I'm moving soon, though (to Shanghai) and hope that might make a difference. Pashley 11:21, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

My original user page message, now removed there: At this point (April 2010) I am mostly off the air as far as Wikitravel is concerned. For the last several months, site performance has been completely appalling for me — sometimes it does not load at all & when it does, it is extremely slow and the formatting is horrendous. I am not certain if this is the Great Firewall messing with things, or what, but the site is nearly unusable for me now.

For no reason I can see, the problem vanished this week. However, I'm about to move, won't be back here until I'm settled in the new place. Pashley 22:16, 9 July 2010 (EDT)
I'm moved & back. Pashley 20:03, 27 August 2010 (EDT)