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Links to kitsap.com
Many of the pages that you have added today appear to have been copied from kitsap.com. That means they are copyright violations! Unless you can show - here - that you hold the copyright to re-publish the content of kitsap.com then other Wikitravel will consider it a copyright violation. Also your links to kitsap.com do not follow our Manual of Style. If you persist on not following our guidelines then other users will continue to delete or change your work. Please respond here to stop this happening. -- Huttite 01:23, 19 Nov 2005 (EST)
I wrote the sections of the VisitKitsap.com site I used. What do I need to do to show that?
For most of the 32 communities on the Kitsap Peninsula the individual city pages on VisitKitsap.com are their primary tourism sites. I see the point, but how do I do it correctly? My thought was to get the basics up and then I will go through city by city and add more content and additional links to all the various sites.
The following pages were created based on content the same as on http://visitkitsap.com/
Just as a note - you don't have to create every new article with (Washington) in the name. We only specify something like the state when there is another place in the world by that same name. It may be best if dig through the links that are in the Welcome message at the top of the screen, looking mostly at the Manual of Style.
You can find out about the naming schemes I mentioned above here: Wikitravel:Disambiguation pages.
Thanks for your hard work - all together everything will get smoothed out. -- Ilkirk 12:56, 19 Nov 2005 (EST)
I meant to add Washington to all the cities I am working on (on the Kitsap Peninsula - washington state) so that they would not be confused with other communities with the same name in other areas - some were and someone else added the Washington, so I just did it to all of them. But, of course now there are two pages - such as Poulsbo, and Poulsbo (Washington). When doing searches only the blank Poulsbo comes up and not the Poulsbo (Washington). I thought I was editing, not adding a second page. How do I delete these older pages? thank you, anyone. Kitsap 13:04, 19 Nov 2005 (EST) PS - seems easier to get the Washinton in now, instead of later when there may be more links set up. Befair, for example is not the only Belfair in the country and certainly not the world, etc. Others you just never know what might be out there.
Yes, but now that I have the two pages, how do I get rid of the plain Poulsbo, and keep only the Poulsbo (Washington)? Kitsap 14:50, 19 Nov 2005 (EST) - PS - since so many cities are yet to be added and any city on the Kitsap Peninsula is probably going to be the smaller, less recognized city, it seems only common sense to add (Washington) now instead of having problems in the future?????
Apology if I confused you
I am sorry if this has been confusing and rather overwhelming to you but I hope this experience does not put you off. I can see you have done lots of hard work and want to share it. The thing that made me take action was the 32 new articles you added in an hour. That sort of volume attracts attention as it looks like spam. Unlike an ordinary website, Wikitravel is like being on live TV, where everyone watching can see what you are doing. Most of the time we just watch what is happening and let things go by. Sometimes we see things happening that should not be - that is when we become policemen and step in to sort out the mess. Most of the time, such as in your case, it is a little problem where some advice is needed.
Keep editing your Kitsap pages with the "(" and ")" in the titles. I have redirected all pages to these. However you do not need to have "(" and ")" in titles unless there are 2 places with the same name.
I also admit I may have confused you. I did move the places you had ended with (WA) to (Washington) as "WA" is also the state code for Western Australia and Wikitravel is read around the world, not just in the USA. (BTW:I am in New Zealand - half a world away from Kitsap!) I realise you may not have been aware of any of this, So I apologise for confusing you.
I have also read back over your responses. - Yes you respond on this - your talk - page. You can tell us anything you want about yourself on your user page - though it is public. So you might just want to say that you wrote the content for VisitKitap.Com at - this stage - though it makes a good story if you also tell us how you came to write it and what your relationship with Kitsap is - like you live there and obviously love the place.
All in all I think you are doing well and getting the hang of things around here. I look forward to reading the finished articles - they have started out pretty well - all things considered. That said it is almost Sunday lunchtime here in NZ and time I got breakfast. -- Huttite 17:57, 19 Nov 2005 (EST)
Yes, I'm confused
No, I won't be discouraged
Yes, I will get better
I need to reread what everyone wrote, look at the pages and I will eventually figure it out and get better. I will also add something to the page about me. As an FYI - I am the Director of Tourism Development for the Kitsap Peninsula Visitor & Convention Bureau. The VisitKitsap.com website has been my "baby" - I am not a web developer, but I worked with a wonderful company and helped with the concept and design. I wrote most of the copy, took most of the pictures and work on it daily. I live on the Kitsap Peninsula, love it, and earlier added to wikipedia (sp?) and do need to go back and improve, but recently heard about this site and thought it an even better place to talk about Kitsap.
My thought is to get it set up (all comments and help appreciated!) get the basics down - get in the lodging, museums, etc and then encourge others in our area to add. This is a beautiful place, close to Seattle, but a ferry ride away.
Back to the photo part - I took most of the photos on VisitKitsap and will be adding some of those and others I have taken and not used anywhere else. Can you point me to the area that talks about how, what, how many, format for uploading photos? I won't get to this part for a while (swamped at work) but give me some time!
Thanks again for the help!
Hi. I just wanted to stop in and say thanks for your contributions on the Kitsap Peninsula and the communities there.
It's one of my big hopes that regional experts like yourself will take the time to work on guides for their regions. I think that having well-written travel guides available for towns and regions can be a big help for local tourist industries. And, obviously, it's indispensible for travellers.
I think that we can leave it up to you and your employer that you understand our copyright policy and that you're willing to release the contributions made here under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license.
Thanks again for your work and please feel free to ask me or any other Wikitraveller if you need a hand. --Evan 12:54, 20 Nov 2005 (EST)