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Hi Robin, welcome to the team! IBJoel (talk) 12:06, 15 June 2016 (EDT)

Hi, could you tell me why you removed my site link The article on external links doen't give me that information. (says it doesn't exist)

Hello Robin, this is the only way I could figure out to contact you. I don't quite understand the "tout" or "external link" issues. This is for the City of Key West and we have to ask all the questions in a certain way to have it be a viable, comparable study. I can provide the external link to the City's web page which has the survey link in it? We didn't tout the City, I thought I just explained why it was important. How would you suggest I edit to not tout?

Australia guide[edit]

First, I want to say that I disagreed with the ban as I did edit it but I still wanted to get the point across that I wasn't sure if the guide should encourage LGBT people to visit a place where they could be in danger. Second, I started a compromise edit where both our ideas are included. I have most of the warning there except now I added that they can visit but then they should keep their orientation private plus my idea that with the Northern Territory and Queensland being conservative it might be safer for LGBT to visit other areas of Australia. Let me know what you think and if you don't like it then we'll collaborate on more edits to it. 11:48, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

  • I advise you to check out the wording used in the Dangerous Destinations and Homophobia section of the Gay and lesbian travel article, as this is the language we would like contributors to use. Your revised edits still use generalized actions and exaggerations, unlike those of warnings in countries where being LGBT is actually a crime. Iran Gay and lesbian travel is a great example of a tastefully worded description about the acceptance level for LBGT. For Australia, please refer to the following recommended description. "Certain areas of Australia, including the Northern Territory and Queensland, typically carry more socially conservative views. While the LGBT community is gaining more widespread acceptance, travelers are advised to avoid public displays of affection." IBrobin (talk) 14:49, 20 June 2016 (EDT)

That edit does not fully explain how some may face violence or refusal of service. See my new edit. I removed anything remotely discouraging but I kept a small description of what could happen for safety purposes. Now leave it alone. There is no reason to keep reverting. 01:56, 24 June 2016 (EDT)

  • In order to validate the warnings you are claiming are pertinent to those areas of Australia, you must back it up with proof. Our sources prove your warnings to be inaccurate and exaggerated, especially about violence and blocking gays from public accommodations. The sodomy laws have been repealed in all states of Australia as of 1997. [1] In fact, Australia is known to be in many lists about the top LGBT friendly countries in the world, with an acceptance rate of 79%! [2] [3] This is good news! We appreciate your concern of visitors to Australia but we also need to maintain the most up-to-date information for all destinations worldwide. IBrobin (talk) 11:22, 24 June 2016 (EDT)