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Hello, Binbin !
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Thank you for your interesting contributions to our Malaysia article!
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Hi Binbin Maedeh1985 (talk) 02:17, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
I take it this edit results from direct observation rather than hearsay?
Congratulations on your lightning promotion to admin status - would you mind if I copyedited your rather controversial Malaysia contribution? --118dot93dot73dot30 19:42, 28 April 2013 (EDT)
- I suppose Binbin just restored the content deleted by 18.104.22.168 and brought it back to your revision from 18 Apr 2013 . It means that his contribution wasn't controversial as he did not put any original content. 22.214.171.124 should be asked for the reason why he deleted the content as this could help us understand why it was deleted. Thanks! IBAlex (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2013 (EDT)
- Fair point.
- However, all my edit that you referenced did was what it said on the tin: copyedit (I used the abbreviation "ce." in my edit summary). When I copyedit I do not necessarily make a judgement call on the material I am copyediting.
- By restoring what another (IP) editor made the decision to delete, I would have thought that Binbin was implying agreement with the (restored) rather controversial material (otherwise why restore it?) - hence my (unanswered) 2 questions to Binbin above. --118dot93dot73dot30 04:39, 30 April 2013 (EDT)
test. --Binbin (talk) 22:32, 12 January 2014 (EST)
Heyo Binbin, i am new to editing wiki's how do i go about it? --Charmingseo1 (talk) 13:44, 6 October 2018 (EDT)
- Hi, welcome! To help new comers with their contributions, we've created a quick contribution guide and a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. However, I see you've taken your time and made quite a few edits already, some of which have been reverted by our admin as they are not in line with our policies about external links. Please have a look at above policies and make your edit accordingly. If you have any further questions, please feel free to drop me a message here. Thanks! --Binbin (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2018 (EDT)
Please take a look at User:Surgeon78m... --Ttcf (talk) 00:28, 18 February 2014 (EST)
- Hi Ttcf, thank you very much for your message. Yes, he's definitely a spammer. And I've blocked this user. Warm regards. --Binbin (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2014 (EST)
- Thanks! --Ttcf (talk) 01:05, 18 February 2014 (EST)
Thank you for your kind words, Binbin! Being a Rome resident myself (and annoyed by the inaccuracies which one can find in most guidebooks) I decided to put my skills to good use...
Quirite (talk) 13:34, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
- Hi Quirite, thank you so much for leaving a warm message here on my talk page. I really appreciate this as well as your genuine and valuable contributions to Rome out of your pride to your hometown as well as your earnest willing of helping others. I hope we can stick together and make the information about (at least) our hometowns just a bit more accurate. If you need any help at all in your edit, please feel free to let me know. I will be more than happy to help you out. Warm regards. --Binbin (talk) 22:46, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
Miami- South Beach
Hello Binbin, I noted your edits to the tours of South Beach; however, if you believe an independent traveler could provide the same experience for themselves, I'm going to have to assume you've never been to South Beach.
There is no possible way a traveler can independently walk around South Beach and fulfill the substance of either tour on their own. There are no guide signs, no plaques, or anything else of that nature in the city. It is a disservice to travelers to remove tours that they are unable to replicate on their own.
Assuming they can get the information from the Wikitravel page is incorrect. At this point the history of Miami Beach is so far off that is is embarrassing. For example, there was never any 'unsettled farmland' in Miami Beach. When the Lums (who were a father and son, not brothers) arrived in Miami Beach to farm coconuts (which wasn't until 1882,) the land was a mangrove forest that they had to clear. The Lums never left any land to John Collins, Collins never came to Miami in 1894 (the Lums project was still going on into 1895!) and when he did come it wasn't to expand the land or find fresh water. The Lummus brothers (who are not mentioned by name in the article) bought land from Charles Lum, not John Collins. Carl Fisher never took over the Collins Bridge project from John Collins, he loaned him the money, and in return Collins gave Fisher land in Miami Beach; which is how he (Fisher) got his start there. South Beach is not an incorporated town, Miami Beach is. South Beach was a ghetto in the 80's, as well as into the 90's. The Mariel Boatlift had a huge impact on Miami, including the beach. The designation of the Art Deco historic district, architectural elements, and architects themselves are also nowhere to be found.
It's definitely mind boggling that we need to provide a link to a Kenneth Cole store (I guess visitors can't find that independently?) but assume they can figure out the history and significance of South Beach on their own. --DNevens (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2014 (EDT)
- You might want to continue this discussion at Talk:Miami_Beach/South_Beach#Deletion so that other editors can voice their opinions as to whether an exception should be made to Wikitravel:Activity_listings#Tour_listings. It sounds like you know enough about the history of the area to develop an itinerary! --Ttcf (talk) 19:07, 13 March 2014 (EDT)
- Ttcf- I am new here and trying to get the hang of this. It looks as though Binbin is some sort of an admin which is why I left the message here. Now that I am rereading it I apologize if it sounded a bit harsh. I am currently out of state caring for a sick family member and when I found Wikitravel and saw how big a mess the South Beach page was, I thought it was a perfect opportunity to help people while also getting my mind off current issues. I would be happy to develop itineraries and edit the page so it is factual and of assistance to people that want to visit South Beach, but I don't want to waste my time if my contributions, contributions I thought were helpful considering they are official, well respected tours of the area, are going to just be deleted. It makes me nervous going forward that any work put into the page will just be in vain. --DNevens (talk) 00:01, 14 March 2014 (EDT)
- Yes, Binbin is one of the hard-working and conscientious IBadmins here at Wikitravel.
- (IBadmin means that he was appointed by Internet Brands, Inc - the owners of Wikitravel rather than selected by the community of editors in an rfa. Here's the list of IBadmins.)
- I do hope that your loved one makes a speedy and complete recovery.
- I do understand that it can be very frustrating having somebody delete your work - that's why I really would encourage you to discuss what you would like to contribute at Talk:Miami_Beach/South_Beach - who knows, we might be able to either agree an exception or that your contributions will actually fall outside our usual tour policy.
- I think I've been editing on this site longer than anyone (except possibly User:Nurg) and in the last decade or so (and especially in the last couple of years) I've seen a lot of editors come and go. It certainly seems like you have the essentials of local knowledge and an easy to read prose style, David... --Ttcf (talk) 04:29, 14 March 2014 (EDT)
- Hi DNevens, thank you for such a detailed and thorough explanation. You are right, I've never been to South Beach (would love to though). Again, I'm sorry that I deleted part of your contributions. Yes, what you mentioned does make sense, and the listings help the travelers to explore the culture and past of South Beach. Please understand that I didn't delete these listings to discourage you from more contributions, but because of our policy does not generally allow walking tour. Now I'm putting back your listings. I hope you can put a word or two on the Talk:Miami_Beach/South_Beach#Deletion, so that other editors may understand it. I really hope your family member will get well soon. Meanwhile I'd really appreciate it if you can put this unpleasant episode aside and continue to add more valuable information about Miami Beach/South Beach and more. Best wishes, --Binbin (talk) 05:11, 14 March 2014 (EDT)
Hi Binbin and Ttcf, Thank you both for your kind words. Thank you Binbin for reinstating the tour posts. I will definitely put a note on the South Beach page. I apologize again for being rude in my original reply. I will definitely continue adding to the South Beach page, and will also look at the Miami page as I know both areas very well. --DNevens (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2014 (EDT)
- DNevens, awesome you joined our traveller's community and that you would like to help us improve our Miami Beach/South Beach. I deleted all the tours, however, because in my opinion they are not in line with our Tour policies. I started a discussion about in in the article talk page. As beautiful as South Beach is, I don't think this article deserves a "special exception" from our well-established guidance. I'd rather see your time and effort devoted to developing all the other section of the article than the tour itself. Warm regards and all the best to your family, IBAlex (talk) 14:02, 14 March 2014 (EDT)
Hi Binbin, thanks for your message. I'll definitely keep adding to the wiki as my travels progress. If you want to see where my wife and I have been, you can check out our blog policies and guidelines] :-) - OoDoh6ei (talk) 02:08, 5 April 2014 (EDT)
- Thank you OoDoh6ei for your message here. Great places you are travelling to. Enjoying your days and look forward to seeing more of your contributions. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 04:07, 6 April 2014 (EDT)
Your edit on food tours
Thank you for your suggestion, but food tours are actually value-added service (since most food tours bring visitors to local restuarants that are not touristy adjusted). You can see that food tours are listed on many wiki travel pages
The list of food walks are very common across Wikitravel pages.
- Hi there, thank you for the message. Yeah, on retrospect, you are right. Sorry for my deletion. I see you've reverted my edit. So, great job I have to say. Please keep your good work up! Cheers. --Binbin (talk) 00:09, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
Thank you for the welcome message. I'm quite new to wikitravel and to confluence type of projects, so please bear with me if I make any mistakes...
I'm a fast learner though :)
Learnro (talk) 20:33, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
- Hi Learnro, thank you for dropping a word on my talk page. I see you've made some very good contributions to Wikitravel. Great job! I'm sure you will be familiar with things here real quick as you contribute and read more. But also please do feel free to ask if you have any questions at all. We will very much be looking forward to more of your contributions. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 03:52, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
Please do not edit lake toba get in,because this information about transport very important to traveller who comes to lake toba,especially our country indonesia,please help our area about information for they trip,because to lake toba hard to find information about transport.thank you—The preceding comment was added by Indomaret (talk • contribs)
Hi, apologies, I basically copied the code from cycle canton above which has a web address. First time posting. Will do again without the website. —The preceding comment was added by Bob2000 (talk • contribs)
- Hi Bob2000, thank you for the message. Generally, we don't allow content copied from other site, [[secondary sources, and of course first person pronouns and touting are not allowed in Wikitravel articles. So if and when your contribution is reverted, it's the best if you can check if your contribution is in line with our policies. But again, thank you for reaching out to me. And I will be looking forward to more of your constructive contributions. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 22:32, 31 January 2015 (EST)
Answer STILL needed
You may wish to answer the direct question you have been asked at User talk:126.96.36.199... --Babaying balikbayan (talk) 06:44, 30 January 2015 (EST)
- Yes, Binbin, it is more than a week now and I really do need a YES or NO answer (on my talk page, please - NOT here) to the question that I posed: "Do I have your permission to move part of this discussion there, please?"
- PLease read my talk page carefully and reply there, so that (if you give permission) it's quite clear where the discussion came from... --188.8.131.52 07:52, 1 February 2015 (EST)
One specific question and one general question
Hello. I noticed that you edited this edit made by another user yesterday. Indeed, initially he linked the hostel name to the secondary source but then corrected himself and changed the secondary source to the hostel's facebook page. That was done because the hostel's web page is turned off now, probably permanently. Many companies are switching from regular web pages to the facebook, both business and government/municipality institutions, among them branches of Tourism Department. It's some sort of recent trend. And back to that hostel - their e-mail address is changed to the new Gmail address, this has certain merits for small business. So, some of hostel staff or some of visitors tried to correct this listing. You reverted it - and now external link does not work again, and the e-mail does not work again. My specific question: although it looks like it was linked to the secondary source, it actually wasn't, so no violations were made. May i bring back the edits of that another user? I prefer not to bother and if there are some other reasons to support your edit i'll easily agree, but so far it looks senseless. I'd like to hear you reply. It's extremely uncomfortable to revert admin's edit :) .
And my second question is general: it's rather common (at least in LT) that regular web pages disappear and companies are switching to Facebook, or to some more general domestic web sites that may look like a secondary source but actually it is the only one (and primary) source. I don't mean eg "Booking" or any similar international web site, i mean either facebook or some domestic websites that carry several (say) hotels/hostels/guesthouses descriptions and work as some sort of a board for those who has no their separate account or web page. I predict that i will make such corrections to the existing listings and some admins will revert them. I came across this several times. May i revert them every time, indicating that this is not a secondary source or something? I want to avoid unnecessary misunderstandings. So would my (or anyone else's) such edits and reverts be acceptable? Or should i behave in some different way in order to avoid misunderstandings in the future (then what is that way)? I simply don't dare to "touch" the incomprehensible edits made by admins and do leave them "as is" although they mislead the travelers/readers. --Local (talk) 12:15, 4 April 2015 (EDT)
- Hi Local, thank you for raising this question. I'm sorry that my and/or other admins' edits may mislead the travellers/readers. Please understand that we are making every effort to keep Wikitravel in good shape for the travellers around the world. My answer to your specific question: yes, please revert my edit.
- To your general question: you are right, it always a bit tricky when it comes to external links especially when the office website of a business is changed to a social networking site link. Of course you can revert my or other admins' edit if and when you are sure that that business does not have any other official web presence, and please let a brief line in the "Summary" column when you do so. Please read our policies about what not to link to before you make any such edit. Again, if you find my and/or other admins' edits are not correct, please by all means correct them for us. You attention and help is very much appreciated. Thank you! --Binbin (talk) 08:37, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
- Thanks for sufficient explanation and encouragement. WT written policies are clear for me, just there are some "unwritten policies", or at least that looks like it, these are totally unclear to me :) . I reverted your edit, added brief explanation why. Thanks again. --Local (talk) 05:57, 7 April 2015 (EDT)
Around the world in 80 days
I removed much of the content for the get in to New York because it was much too detailed. Every bit of information for the options of getting to or between the airports was provided. A user only needs a general overview of how to get there. The transportation to the starting airport should not be the main section. New York is a good place to start this journey, but not the only one in the world. Also, it seemed as if this long section was copied directly from the get in section of the New York City article. --Kfinger (talk) 14:10, 18 May 2015 (PDT)
Question about deleted post.
thanks for contacting me about my post on Usti nad Labem.
However, I still dont understand fully why you deleted it? How does it not fit in with the site policies? I had only put in a few lines because I wanted to see if it worked and had planned to add to it later.
The nearby, smaller city of Decin has a page. As Usti is recovering from a lot of economic hardship and beginning to promote tourism and has at least enough things to keep a traveller busy for a long weekend, I thought it would be good to for it to have a wikitravel page.
If you can let me know what was wrong and if you have nay other tips for writing my first page I'd be grateful.
- Hi Andy, thank you for reaching out to me here. Yes I did delete Ústí nad Labem because there's basically no information at all in that article, even in the introduction section. So I assumed that this is another blank page created for no purpose at all (we do have users who created dozens of blank articles), and I deleted it. Thank you for your explanation for your good intention. I've restored the article. You can proceed to edit it now. Sorry that I make that wrong assumption. However, please do have a look at our policies and guidelines and style before you edit it and other articles. Again, thank you so much for reaching out to me and your intention of editing Ústí nad Labem. We will be looking forward to your valuable contributions soon. Please do feel free to contact me if you have any questions at all. Thank you! --Binbin (talk) 10:48, 18 July 2015 (EDT)
- Hi Binbin,
- Thank you so much for your nice reply. I will try and add some more to the post on Usti over the next few weeks. Maybe it would have been better to start with adding to a page that had already been written. However, I will give it a try! cheersm ANdy
- Hi Andy. No problem. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions at all. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 03:06, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
I do plan on adding more information, it's not quite done yet. I wasn't able to find the business owners of the locations. --Cmordway (talk) 14:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
- Great job you've done there! Thank you! --Binbin (talk) 10:40, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
Thanks for your message on my page. It's encouraging to read your words. Once again, thanks and God bless you! User:AntonioMartin (User talk:AntonioMartin) 22:05, 2 September, 2015 (UTC)
- Hi AntonioMartin, thank you for contacting me here. Please do let me know if you have any questions at all. And once again, we are looking forward to your valuable contributions. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 06:30, 7 September 2015 (EDT)
Thanks a lot for your welcome message :-) -Ravirustam84 (talk) 08:28, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
- Hi Ravirustam84, thank you for leaving me a message on my talk page. Thank you for your great contributions to Chennai. Great job! Please let me know if you have any questions. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 10:34, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
I actually created the Sarteneja page, I just forgot to log in! Oops.Iowa Joe (talk) 09:44, 21 November 2015 (EST)
- Okay. Thank you for letting me know. Seems you've been to a lot of places. Are you planning to update the places you've visited? Please feel free to contact me here if you have any questions at all. --Binbin (talk) 01:24, 22 November 2015 (EST)
Deleted page - Pic la Selle
Binbin - I thought that Pic La Selle should have its own page because it is an exception to the rule that sites should not have their own page because it is too far away from the nearest city for a day trip and requires an overnight stay. As the highest mountain in a country known for its mountains, it is also worthy of its own page.
Please justify your deletion - and how is a final decision made? Thanks —The preceding comment was added by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs)
- Hi, I just replied here, as you left a message there as well. Adzas (talk) 11:39, 15 December 2015 (EST)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. As explained, this mountain should not have its own article. However, it could be mentioned on Haiti (as it already is). Or, maybe you can create an article about "La Visite National Park" to which Pic La Selle is a part, as explianed to you here. Again, thank you for your contributions and thank you for reaching out here. Please let me know if I've made myself clear or if you need more information. Thank you! --Binbin (talk) 08:52, 16 December 2015 (EST)
I've been trying to add the USE-IT Brussels tour to the wikitravel Brussels page, and the item keeps being removed. Ik believe it makes sense to add it because it's an atypical project that avoids the tourists traps and encourages young people to go discover different, more unknown parts of Brussels.
Deletion of Draganac Monastery article
Hello I recently added an article about Draganac and I saw that you deleted it. I'm a new contributor and after reading the rules I can understand how the monastery may not fit into the guidelines for an article. I was wondering if I could by any chance retrieve the information I wrote on the monastery so I could post the information in a more relevant manner? For example should I instead post my article for Draganac under the article for the nearby city of Gnjlane? —The preceding comment was added by Pitaifli (talk • contribs)
- Hi Pitaifli, thank you for reaching out here. Yes, you can certainly add it to the nearby city such as Gnjilane. Draganac has been restored upon your request. Please feel free to take some/all info and add it to another article. I will delete it in the next 7 days. Plus, we usually sign our message on discussion pages (but not on articles though) by adding ~~~~ . Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions at all. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 03:39, 14 February 2016 (EST)
- Thank you Binbin, I'm an American currently working in Kosovo and I'm looking forward to contributing more information to the wiki on the topic. Pitaifli (talk) 04:33, 14 February 2016 (EST)
- You are most welcome! We will be looking forward to more of your valuable contributions here. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 08:45, 14 February 2016 (EST)
I noticed the reference to touting in relation to a contribution about Buddha Belly Tours / Restaurant on Cat Ba. They are very distinct offerings however I can see that it may stand out on a page with not a large amount of content, so accept it should be in one category.
Are you happy with the 'do' section to include:
- Buddha Belly Travel offers excellent day excursions  to both the highlights of Cat Ba and off the beaten path locations such as Thien Long Cave, which is only accessible by a short boat trip. Mr Duong, the owner, is a charming and passionate host, who also runs a vegetarian restaurant in Cat Ba town. —The preceding comment was added by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. Yes, it's great now. Thank you! Please feel free to contact me here if you have any questions. Plus, messages on talk pages should be signed (by ~~~~). Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 05:12, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
I have just noticed that you deleted the picture that I post on http://wikitravel.org/en/Ha_Giang. Can I have the reason why? Thanks a lot.
Sorry, I've check your message, I understand now. —The preceding comment was added by Zennysmile (talk • contribs)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 05:59, 2 May 2016 (EDT)
Hi! In warning https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/ukraine-travel-warning.html there is no mention of Kharkiv. kharkiv and Ukraine in general except parts occupied by russsa is much more safe then in France or USA now. Oleksii (talk) 00:25, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
- Hi Oleksii, thank you for reaching out here. Yes, you are right, the warning is for "Crimea and the eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk" only. I've removed the warning in Kharkiv. Thank you again for pointing this out. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 04:52, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
Questions and issues
I'm new here, and I haven't gotten much experience into using wikidot, but I've been a guest visitor and never edit articles without accounts, but I have a few or couple things to bring up, since you're the admin:
There's some articles that don't have this red "WARNING" box on them, but some are still placed under that category, like for example, the city article Moscow, doesn't have a red box on the page, but is still labelled as "Articles with Warnings" and there isn't a red warning box for any reason, why?
I can see one a few pages (IE: the note where there is a notice regarding the Zika outbreak) on some pages, but should they be under a different category, such as "Articles with notices" rather than Articles with Warnings, since there are some articles that have only the yellow notice box and some do not use the actual red warning box (Though Articles with notices doesn't exist, Articles with Warnings does)?
Also to ask, should the Zika outbreak articles, should they use the red warning box instead rather than the yellow one? As for policy, should all material regarding travel to cities or countries be sourced before any material is posted or warnings are posted (IE: If a country gets a travel warning from a specific country (US state travel), that travel warning stays on the wikitravel site until the travel caution or warning is removed from the official website that actually placed the warning.
For example, if Saudi Arabia gets a travel warning from the state.gov website, that should be placed with a warning box on the page here, but when that warning gets removed from the site, should it be removed from their site, or should it stay for as long as possible?
I have one request to ask you, do you have a article on the Zika outbreak, I have a medical app that can provide information regarding the Zika outbreak and it might prove useful, but do you have a article regarding the Zika outbreak?
Let me know if you have a article for that.
- Hi Vmkcheat, welcome to Wikitravel, and thank you for reaching out here. Very interesting observations. As a matter of fact, we have warning boxes, disclaimer boxes, caution boxes, etc. Each represent different types of information. And you are right, warning boxes should be removed as soon as the destination becomes reachable again. We don't have an article on Zika outbreak because we have rules about what does get its own article. And we don't really want Wikitravel to become a classfied advertising platform for all kinds of apps, also please have a look at our polcies about touting. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 05:04, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
Travel Warning information
Should the following pages have travel warnings added?
Quick questions: Should political alerts count? travel.state.gov adds alerts when it comes to short term political events
that are temporary, should they not be added when it comes to the articles here? If not, should they be added as a note or
a caution box?)
Saudi Arabia (USA has one updated this month as of recent, due to new continued terrorist attacks)
Turkey (travel.state.gov has added a travel warning due to terrorist attacks, warns about the southeastern part
of Turkey specifically)
Haiti (The Department of State has issued this Travel Warning to inform U.S. citizens traveling to or living in Haiti about the lack of adequate emergency medical facilities, and the security environment in Haiti.)
Bangladesh (The Department of State warns U.S. citizens to consider carefully whether you need to travel to Bangladesh, in light of the latest attack in a series of extremist events.)
Venezuela (The Department of State warns U.S. citizens that violent crime in Venezuela is pervasive, both in the capital Caracas and throughout the country.)
A couple of the articles already have a caution regarding the Zika outbreak, what can we do with those if we add a red warning box to the pages that already have a caution regarding the Zika virus? Haiti and Venezuela have a yellow caution box, but should we add the warning box above it, below it, or in the "Stay Safe" section, whichever section is appropriate for the country and the reason why it was given that warning in the first place?
Linking to map service
Hello Binbin! Thanks for reviewing my changes. You removed my links to multi-page printable PDF maps of two locations (at the bottom of their Understand sections). I believe these can be very useful to travellers, and I don't see how this kind of content can be included in Wikitravel directly. The links are not to Google Maps or other online map tools. They are to a free PDF resource. Why did you remove them? I did look at the Maps section on the External Links page, and tried to restart the discussion there. Full disclosure: I'm the developer of this service. Kontextify (talk) 09:33, 14 October 2016 (EDT)
- Hi Kontestify, thank you so much for contributing to Wikitravel and reaching out to us. We really appreciate it. I saw your post on External Links talk page, and I replied there. Again, I appreciate your efforts, please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Thank you! --Binbin (talk) 00:20, 15 October 2016 (EDT)
How to write street art to be an article? I have to change to topic 'street art in bangkok' right? Because I think street art is one of places to travel. I write this article for guide photography to see treet art in Bangkok. Teaypvrn (talk) 06:45, 15 November 2016 (EST)
- Hi Teaypvrn, thank you very much for reaching out here. You've raised a very interesting question, one that takes a bit of discussions. While "Street art in Bangkok, Thailand" shouldn't be an article, "Street Art" in general makes a very good Travel topic as many artist and travelers alike do have great interest in it. Would you like to work with me on the "Street Art" project (of which street art in Bangkok will be one part)? I will create a travel topic article Street Art, and you can add the street art in Bangkok in the See section of Bangkok, and then you can add a short description on the new article. We will also encourage other like-minded travelers to contribute and add more cities where street art can be an attraction.Maybe we can end up with a nice project featuring all major street art sites around the world.What do you think? --Binbin (talk) 07:53, 16 November 2016 (EST)
It is ILLEGAL in the City of Berwyn, Illinois for adults to talk to minors even with the parents' permission.
And only someone who says; It's a capital felony under Federal law, FBI and Homeland Security enforced, yes, even carrying a minimum sentence of even 6,000 years and more to life without parole, mandatory castration, mandatory requirement to register as a sex offender and even being forbidden to live within less than 75 miles of a school, church, park, playground, or any place where minors congregate and/or the death penalty to have even casual interactions with minors, or even if casual interactions with minors were grounds for an immediate military air strike, would dare remove a warning that it is illegal under municipal law for adults to interact with minors even with the okay from the parents and even if the minor initiated first interaction! Like in other words, Sgt. Gerald Conoboy of the Berwyn Police Department should have just ordered immediate full Martial law and ordered an immediate carpet bombing military air strike on me in 2000 as well as a full military lockdown of the entire continent of North America (USA, Canada, and Mexico) because I was visiting friends still enrolled at Morton West High School! And like in other words, Conoboy needs to learn to immediately carpet bomb and take down, full RPG attack, any adult even seen outdoors within the entire City of Berwyn on school days!
Conoboy TOLD me, POINT BLANK; It is ILLEGAL in the City of Berwyn for adults 18 and older to have ANY type of social interactions AT ALL with anyone 17 and younger! Even friendly interactions between adults 18 and older and minors 17 and younger are illegal in the City of Berwyn, Illinois, even if it NEVER gets into something sexual! And even if it is okay with the minor's parents! The ONLY exception is if the minor is the adult's son or daughter. Conoboy also told me, point blank, that the ENTIRE area bordered by 16th Street on the north, East Avenue on the east, 31st street on the south, and Harlem Avenue on the west is a restricted area on school days! He told me that NO adults are allowed outdoors within that area on school days unless on public transit or unless the adults are parents picking up their children from school. Scuzz (talk) 19:43, 11 December 2016 (EST)
Question regarding "tout" warning
You recently left a message on our user page that said not to tout, and you linked to this rule on the "Don't tout" page: http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel:Don%27t_tout#Don.27t_list_the_same_place_many_times
However, we have never added the same exact place twice; we are adding separate hotels on the corresponding city pages. Can you please explain which guidelines we are breaching? We have read the guidelines very carefully and have made sure we complied with all of them.
Thank you. --—The preceding comment was added by Countryinncarlson (talk • contribs)
- Hi Countryinncarlson, thank you for reaching out here. I've changed the welcome message on your talk page so that you can see our general rules for business owners. It's pretty obvious that you have been adding the same business/place on multiple pages, which is considered touting. On Wikitravel, as a standard practice, we don't allow chain hotel owners to list all their branches in all the cities they are operated, because our goal is to create a free, complete, up-to-date and reliable world-wide travel guide for travels around the world, not to create a yellow page for business owners. Plus, we usually sign our message on discussion pages (but not on articles though) by adding ~~~~ . Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions. Thank you! --Binbin (talk) 05:26, 26 January 2017 (EST)
About Roudkhan Castle
Not delete my pagea again.I'm Iranian and know my local places Saeedkhajeh (talk) 03:38, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
- Hi Saeedkhajeh, thank you for reaching out to me. Please refer to your talk page for my reply. If you have any further questions, please feel free to let me know. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 04:08, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
Query on reverted article
Hi Binbin, I tried adding more accurate details (and change some grammatical errors) on the article Batu Pahat. That was several day ago. It got reverted to an article that is not so updated. Can I know what have I done that caused its rejection? I have read through the guide. —The preceding comment was added by Adoreonline (talk • contribs)
- Hi Adoreonline, thank you for reaching out to me. Sorry that this happened. Please do understand that we value original and up-to-date information, and we are really trying our best to keep this site from spammers and irrelevant information to make Wikitravel a free, complete, up-to-date and reliable world-wide travel guide to help travelers around the world. But sometimes we do make mistakes, we apologize for our errors, and we have undone the revision to your edit. We really appreciate your contribution, and we appreciate your reaching out to our admin team for our mistake even more. We really hope that we will have more passionate and constructive contributors to make Wikitravel a better place for all travelers around the world! We really look forward to more of your contributions. Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions at all. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 01:37, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
Level 2 protection for Wyoming page
Hi it seems like that troll with an ip keeps using an ip generator software or site to evade his ban and continue to blank areas of the safety section. Please consider my suggestion to put protection on it to allow only registered editors to make changes to the pages and ban all the harmful ips for the page. Thanks.2600:1:F11C:2AD9:2093:A661:E381:2E06 15:11, 9 February 2018 (EST)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. Sorry for my late response. I see Adzas has protected the page. Will keep an eye on the page too. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 04:45, 12 February 2018 (EST)
Hello From Newest IB Team Member!
Just wanted to say hello on your user page while practicing going around Wikitravel. Feel free to send me a line on my page! IB hill (talk) 14:02, 28 March 2018 (EDT)IB_hill
- Hi, thank you for dropping me a message here. Welcome to the community! --Binbin (talk) 02:17, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
It is not my listing. The place is new and it has received a lot of attention from the media. It just opened yesterday.You can check here: instagram.com/eightbistrocaracas/. The inauguration was yesterday and Venezuelan fashion celebrities attended. The newspaper El Nacional, the most important in the country, also attended. I always go to fancy restaurants in Caracas. As a proof, you can check also my instagram profile. I am always spending money... everywhere. —The preceding comment was added by QuinteroP (talk • contribs)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. Sorry for the confusion. By "your listing" I mean the listing you posted. Please have a look at our policies about listings. If you have any further questions at all, please feel free to drop me a message here. Plus, please sign your messages by putting ~~~~ at the end of your message. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 08:01, 29 April 2018 (EDT)
/* Talk */ Added some changes that were in the previous version that were useful
I have been to India many times for 15 years. When you say that in South India don't speak Hindi as you will be met with hostility, that is not necessarily true, as I am South Indian from Chennai where plenty of North Indians live and that never happens. I didn't delete useful info either, I simply shortened the Talk section into a couple of paragraphs. The information in the previous edit stated is still there, just condensed. I really don't understand your problem. Instead of multiple paragraphs about the English language, I would recommend adding more content about other regional languages of India, such as Tamil, Marathi, Telugu etc. I am against the notion given from the Talk section that Hindi and English are the only languages spoken in India. -18.104.22.168 06:44, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. The reason I reverted your contributions was that you delete a large chunk of information without a proper explanation nor any substitute. I see you've added more information after your deletion. I think it's okay now. Thanks again! --Binbin (talk) 06:53, 25 July 2018 (EDT)
Hi, I noticed you deleted my articles for Blythburgh and Walberswick. I presume due to this guideline: "Small towns, villages, and unincorporated hamlets which have very few—if any—defining features that would attract a tourist. Any particulars of these small communities can be mentioned in larger regional articles."
I believe both of these villages have defining features that would attract a tourist. Can you please restore the articles to my userspace so I can continue working on them? Thanks. MrCutts (talk) 08:55, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. Yes, you are right, I did delete them due to this rule. However, upon your request, I have restored both articles. Please continue working on them. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions at all. Thanks! --Binbin (talk) 10:15, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
Deletion of General Tours
Hello Binbin, I'm new to Wikitravel, so I'm still learning how it works. I noticed you deleted my edit on Tongren for Shamkhun's Tours. I read the section on tour listings, and I'm still confused as to why it was deleted. I was recently in Tongren, if it weren't for Shamkhun's Tours my time there would have been very rough, especially since I speak none of the local languages. I was able to see and participate in parts of the local culture I could not have had I not used the tours. Could you give me some tips on how to make this less general? I believe it is an invaluable service for visitors to Tongren. Thanks! FarAwayFriend (talk) 08:50, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
- Hi FarAwayFriend, welcome again to Wikitravel, and thank you for reaching out here on my talk page. Sorry I deleted your contribution on Tongren, but as a general rule, we don't allow general tour listings here on Wikitravel. Tours listed here should:
- have a "real world" office with a phone number and address in the location where the tour operates.
- constitute a value-added activity at a destination (e.g., a helicopter tour of a city, or a camel expedition into the Sahara)
- For other requirements for tour listings, please refer to our tour listing policies. If the Shamkhun's Tours does meet our requirements, please revise your listing and add it again and we will be happy to keep it. Otherwise, I'm afraid it shouldn't be here on Wikitravel. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 04:22, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
- Hello Again! Okay, I'm sorry if I'm being dense, but I'm still confused. So for example, on the page for Xiahe there's a listing for the company Nomad Travel. It says, 'They offer a wide variety of tours in and around Xiahe. Their guides are well informed. Company's service is excellent. Highly recommended.' That seems more general than what I wrote. If I include the address, and specified a value-added activity would that qualify it for inclusion? For example, through the company I was able to take an hours drive to a village, stay with local farmers, share lunch, use a hand sickle, and carry wheat in a traditional Tibetan harvest fashion. With the tours of Thangka painters homes, my guide translated interviews with the Thangka painters, explained the techniques and education involved in becoming a Thangka painter, and the history of Thangka painting in the village.
- Again, sorry for my confusion, I really appreciate you helping me understand how to add listings for tours on Wikitravel. I love this website so much, it has helped me expand my horizons while traveling and I hope to try and do the same for others. Cheers! FarAwayFriend (talk) 09:04, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
- Hi, you are right there are many listings that do not follow our policies, but it's no reason for adding illegitimate listings or adding content that does not meet our policies in general. With that being said, yes, if you include the address and value-added activity this tour operator offers that will benefit travelers, then it certainly can be included. Once again, thank you for being interactive and constructive. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions about how contributions should be made on Wikitravel. I will be looking forward to more of your contributions. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 02:35, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
- Thank you for all of your guidance! FarAwayFriend (talk) 07:07, 29 August 2018 (EDT)
You are most welcome in our country.. you will be amazed to see the Kumaoni culture and surroundings around our guest house with Himalayan facing view Nits (talk) 02:28, 6 November 2018 (EST)
- Hi Nits, thank you! I'd love to visit your country when I've got a chance. Thank you! --Binbin (talk) 03:13, 6 November 2018 (EST)
Just have a question in regards to a couple pages. Whenever any company lists themselves in the Inca Trail page under the companies heading, seems you delist it for touting (listing in multiple pages). Yet the three companies that are currently listed on the Inca Trail page are also on the Salkantay trek wikipage. Seems like this is contrary to what you are delisting the other companies for. Just wondering if there is something that I am missing? :) —The preceding comment was added by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs)
- Hi, thank you for reaching out here. You are right that I have delisted listing that have been added to multiple pages based on our policies about touting. Please refer to our discussion on similar situations. Even though it's not exactly the same with our case, you can still see our dilemma we are facing. Cheers! --Binbin (talk) 08:43, 8 December 2018 (EST)