YOU CAN EDIT THIS PAGE! Just click any blue "Edit" link and start writing!

User talk:AndreCarrotflower

From Wikitravel
Jump to: navigation, search

Hello, AndreCarrotflower! Welcome to Wikitravel.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Wikitravel:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. LtPowers 19:59, 11 December 2011 (EST)

You've done such marvelous work on the Buffalo guide. I've been following your progress admiringly. Ikan Kekek 04:11, 8 January 2012 (EST)
Thank you. I'm happy to hear I've done a good job. Being a local ambassador of sorts is something that I'm passionate about. I've got much more to add, so keep watching :) AndreCarrotflower 04:21, 8 January 2012 (EST)
Indeed, it's good to see it growing, though I would caution you to keep listings that are outside of the city to a minimum. The "Get out" listings are getting a bit long (and individual attractions should be merely mentioned and not given full listings), and some listings in the main body of the article are for things well outside the city. Everything you've written is good, but some of it should probably be reserved for articles on the outlying areas. =) LtPowers 15:24, 8 January 2012 (EST)
Thank you for your suggestions and for your continued help as I learn the finer points of Wikitravel. As for the "Get Out" section, all of the attractions I've listed are popular day trips for locals and I feel the article would be lacking without giving them at least a passing mention. However, I do agree with you that the listings are a bit wordy - a bad habit of mine. I will work on that. I do plan on setting to work at a later point on articles on outlying areas (East Aurora, in particular) and will transfer some of the listings in the Buffalo article for attractions in outlying areas to the others at that time. AndreCarrotflower 16:00, 8 January 2012 (EST)
I've merged and condensed many of the outlying attractions, but I don't know that I can eliminate all the individual attraction listings in the Get Out section (Old Fort Niagara in particular), as this is a popular and worthwhile day trip from Buffalo that it would be difficult to place in any context other than stand-alone. As the Falls is a major attraction, I'd like to leave the descriptions for Niagara Falls, New York and Niagara Falls, Ontario a bit longer than the others in their section. Any further advice would be appreciated. AndreCarrotflower 16:28, 8 January 2012 (EST)
Looks like a big improvement, though it could still probably be pared down a bit. At this point I wouldn't quibble, but if I were writing it anew, I'd include somewhat less detail on each destination. It's all good info, I'm just afraid it might be a bit overwhelming. We want people to click through to the linked articles and read what we have there. (By the way, Genesee Country Village & Museum is in Monroe County, the southwestern corner of it, not Genesee County). LtPowers 21:46, 8 January 2012 (EST)

Price range templates[edit]

As you're quickly moving Buffalo towards star status, you might want to take a look at Template:Eatpricerange and Template:Sleeppricerange as they are useful in articles when sections have been split into price ranges. See Singapore for a sample implementation. Also - nice work! -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:59, 30 January 2012 (EST)

Doh! Never mind, I see you found them already. I need to refresh my browser more often... -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:00, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Thank you! "Star status" sounds great. I hope to get it up to that level soon. Any further suggestions you may have would be most appreciated. I plan on submitting a proposal for district-ifying the article soon. Would I place that on the talk page? If not, where? AndreCarrotflower 01:10, 1 February 2012 (EST)
Yes, that should go on the talk page. And fantastic work! --Peter Talk 13:04, 4 February 2012 (EST)
Thank you, Peter. I will be submitting that in the next few days. AndreCarrotflower 20:19, 10 February 2012 (EST)


Since unsolicited advice is my forte, I thought I would make a recommendation for when you start the districting process for Buffalo: focus on two things: first and most importantly, refilling the main article's see, do, buy, eat, drink, and sleep sections with overview information and pointers to the appropriate district articles, and second, creating an understand section for each new article. I can certainly pitch in with moving content around, but it takes an expert to do the two aforementioned tasks well, and they are really crucial for making a districted guide work. --Peter Talk 23:23, 15 February 2012 (EST)

Thank you for your continued assistance. I have some ideas in that vein already, but I am (of course) open to further guidance as well. :) AndreCarrotflower 03:13, 16 February 2012 (EST)

DotM nomination[edit]

Hi, Andre. Just wanted to let you know I've nominated Buffalo for Destination of the Month. If you feel it's not ready to be featured on the front page yet, please do comment on the nomination! LtPowers 22:41, 2 June 2012 (EDT)

Thanks! I'm working on getting the article broken down into districts, but other obligations have consumed most of my time lately. Still, I'm really pleased with the work I've done on the article thus far and IMO it would certainly work well as a DotM. AndreCarrotflower 18:36, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
Out of curiosity, LtPowers: who makes the final decision as to which nominees for DotM make the cut? Is it a consensus thing, is it up to one or more senior-level admins, or something else? —The preceding comment was added by AndreCarrotflower (talkcontribs)
In theory, the decision is made by consensus, as with everything around here. In practice, when a new DotM is needed, whoever gets around to it first chooses from among the most promising options (those with the most support relative to opposition). If anyone objects to that selection, then a discussion would result on the talk page, but that rarely happens. Right now, we're short on promising candidates so anything that looks remotely ready is likely to be featured sooner rather than later. LtPowers 10:24, 13 June 2012 (EDT)
I know you're excited about Buffalo as DOTM (understandably!). I've bumped it from July to September based on discussions about the London Olympics and potentially featuring London for two months rather than one, so hopefully it's not too disappointing to have to wait a bit longer to see your city featured. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:18, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
Frankly, I was hoping for it NOT to be featured in July, because at last check it would have been shorted for a few days given that London as DOTM would have kicked in on July 27th. No worries at all - this will give me some time to tweak the article as needed. AndreCarrotflower 14:29, 18 June 2012 (EDT)


Hi, Andre. Many thanks for your meticulous work on the Nevyansk article. I took the liberty of making a couple of small changes in places where the intended meaning was distorted. But in general your style changes are great! I wish I could master it myself =) Atsirlin 06:10, 26 July 2012 (EDT)

Hi there! It was my pleasure to help with the article. I've been more and more of an active participant in the monthly DotM and OTBP nominations recently, and I took a great liking to Nevyansk based on your article. I wanted your nomination of it for OTBP to go through successfully, and I thought it would be good to spruce it up a little bit to make it really shine. I placed it in the OTBP schedule and barring any changes, it should be on the front page in mid-August.
I reviewed the changes you made to the article. Most of your points are well taken; however, there are a few minor grammatical issues in your changes that I'm going to adjust. I hope you're not offended because my intent is for Nevyansk to really make a splash as OTBP. I will make sure and explain these changes in the Summary section.
Congratulations on a well-written article!
-- AndreCarrotflower 02:45, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
No problem! Your comments are very instructive, as always. I hope that we could continue at some point, as soon as I find inspiration to translate another Russian article into English. Atsirlin 04:47, 27 July 2012 (EDT)

Re: Maps on the Rochester article[edit]

I was thinking the same thing and was kind of gearing up to work on it. Creating maps is an art form of sorts, one that takes a bit of trial and error to get right. I still don't feel like I've gotten my maps to be as useful as User:Peterfitzgerald's, but I do what I can. Check out shared:User:LtPowers/Gallery#Maps if you'd like to see more examples of the maps I've worked on.

For your edification, we have a Wikitravel:Mapmaking Expedition for those of us making maps; you may find some tips and get an idea for how we got to the current state of the art there and on its talk page. But your information central, with the most detailed instructions, is at Wikitravel:How to draw a map. I strongly recommend starting with an Open Street Maps map, as detailed on that page, as the alternative can be very tedious.

Those pages should get you started; feel free to drop a message on either page's talk page if you have any questions (not that I mind you contacting me directly, but the other mapmakers may have additional insights and/or respond more quickly).

-- LtPowers 10:02, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

On second thought, I think I'm going to put the map project off until after Buffalo's DotM month is over. I'm thinking that to get the maps looking the way I want them to look will require an investment of time that is prohibitive if the deadline is September 1st. Plus, I intend to get to work pretty speedily on districting the article after October 1st, and I'd rather have a map for each district article, with more detail and content, than one for the whole city that I would just have to edit down anyway.
-- AndreCarrotflower 20:21, 12 August 2012 (EDT)


Hi Andre, Would you be interested in updating these Main Page sections on a monthly basis?--IBobi talk email 18:42, 31 August 2012 (EDT)