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Fred's notes[edit]

Hi, I'm justfred, and I've come here after several years of editing Wikipedia (where I'm also justfred).

I've made the following notes for my own use while discovering Wikitravel. Feel free to comment/respond to them but don't feel obligated as they're just my scratchings.--Justfred

-Travel hints. On some of the Mexico pages, for example, there's information about driving in Mexico. Why copy this again and again - should there be a "driving in Mexico" page? Probably.

There is, in travel tips; but these are a little hard to find and link to pages. I'll keep working on these.--Justfred 13:01, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

-Individual locations. Should (for example) museums or other "attractions" have their own page? I think so. But the wiki is still growing so this should evolve.

See Wikitravel:What is an article? and the extensive discussions on the talk page for the reasoning behind not giving museums and other attractions their own articles. When there is a LOT to say about a place we do give it its own article - see Angkor Wat or Disneyland for examples, although they are fairly rare exceptions. -- Ryan 21:08, 25 September 2006 (EDT)
Makes sense to me, tho I'll check the discussions. I'd think places like the Louvre, the Met, etc. would merit pages, the point would be understanding where the line is drawn.--Justfred
...and as the Wiki grows, more and more places would need descriptions; for example, the airports as discussed, when they get large enough to overwhelm the page they are moved to a new page; same would be true for attractions (whether or not one can sleep there!)--Justfred 13:01, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

-GPS. Seems as if locations should ALL have GPS links. This would enable mapping, nearby locations, links to Google Maps, etc. But it also seems like "whose job is this?".

Plunge forward. You can add geocoding using the directions at Wikitravel:Geocoding. Also: how have you gotten through several years of Wikipedia editing without learning how to sign your posts? --Evan 22:27, 25 September 2006 (EDT)
Will check out that page. I'm sure most of these questions are answered somewhere, I haven't started really looking. And as far as the sig, usually I just click the handy symbol that isn't here (yes, I can be extraordinarily lazy about stuff like this. Sometimes I edit without logging on, even). And since this is a user page, I don't usually worry about it much. Let's see if I can get it right:Justfred 02:04, 26 September 2006 (EDT)
Okay, I added a couple of Geo tags. Not much use for them at the moment. I can imagine an automated program going back to add them later. Have also been reading the talk discussions.

-Treo Browser Support. Wikitravel doesn't work on my Treo's Blazer web browser. (Neither does Wikipedia.) (Unless I print to PDF, but I mean "live".) Most likely a problem with the Treo's browser, tho it handles most other pages fine. I don't have to edit or see pictures (tho both should theoretically be possible), but seeing text would be really useful. Maybe ? There are third-party viewers for Wikipedia, but I don't believe they work with Wikitravel. The CSS fix for 'pedia discussed at doesn't seem to work.--Justfred 13:01, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

Chain Restaurants[edit]

See (for now) User talk:Justfred/Chain restuarants.


Airports need airport codes. This is a big enough job that it should be automated somehow, possibly with links to Airnav. Maybe Airnav should be in related projects.--Justfred 17:16, 4 October 2006 (EDT)


Some Itineraries I'd like to do.

  • Baja "tip trip".
  • Breweries and hot springs of the Pacific Northwest
  • Highway 395