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I'm taking license to include this themed itinerary based on the section Fields of pursuit on Wikitravel:Other ways of seeing travel. I've deliberately confined this to 4 states so that over the course of a long weekend it is possible to visit both the beginning of the Shaker movement and what appears to be its end, as well as a couple gems in the middle. That necessarily meant leaving out several worthwhile former Shaker villages that lie in other directions. Anyone wanting to construct another loop into the Midwest could, for example, aggregate the museum villages of Pleasant Hill and South Union in Kentucky and Shaker Heights in Ohio. Feel free to add that second itinerary within Shakers, Beginning to End, or maybe I'll have a chance to get to it later. Within the New England leg of this itinerary, the die-hard Shaker fan could also squeeze in a visit to the Shaker collection at Fruitlands Museum [1] in Harvard, Massachusetts (the town, not the university). SHC 21:13, 1 May 2006 (EDT)

Ok, now that I see where you're going with this it seems neat, but the title threw me off at first. Could it be a little more descriptive? "Shakers, Beginning to End" is cute and literary, but not very informative at first glance (plus, have they really "ended"?) Maybe "One week in Shaker country" or "Tour of Shaker villages"? Just a thought... Majnoona 21:42, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
I'm not crazy about the title either and I'm open to suggestions by anyone with more creativity than me. No, they haven't ended, but as of August 2005 there were four, only one of which was under the age of 70.SHC 21:48, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
If it takes reading the discussion page to figure out what it is about, I didn't do the job right. Does it need a rewrite or a quick, painless delete? SHC 21:54, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
It would be a good title for a travelogue or travel journalism piece, I'm just not sure if we want to start down the road of "interesting" article name. Anyone have a good suggestion besides One week in Shaker country? BTW, I have to problems with keeping the "beginning to end" as a heading in the article, since that's the order of the suggested tour... Majnoona 22:33, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
I just looked down the list of Travel_topics and it seems like the two best options are the <amount of time> in <place> or <verb> in <place> type names, so Driving in Shaker country? Is "country" the best term? or Touring Shaker villages? Majnoona 22:37, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
Country is apt. They did have a tendancy to spread out from their epicenter at Watervliet. Make the change before inertia sets in. Chances are no one (least of all me) will remember to do the housekeeping tomorrow. SHC 22:41, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
Ok, I've renamed, and removed needless caps. Could use a map and a photo or two, but that's for another day. SHC 18:59, 2 May 2006 (EDT)


Is there any reason for capitalizing the words beginning and end in the title? Otherwise we should stick to the article naming conventions and move the article a new title capitalizing only the first word. Ricardo (Rmx) 22:23, 1 May 2006 (EDT)

No particular reason. Make the change. SHC 22:24, 1 May 2006 (EDT)

This[edit] a cool article. I wonder if there's a way to wedge it into the Wikitravel:Itinerary article template? --Evan 19:10, 2 May 2006 (EDT)

Sure is. I've started to rework into the template. SHC 20:29, 28 June 2006 (EDT)

Internal Links?[edit]

Why no internal links on the town locations? Too distracting from the article? Towns not usable status? Nice job on this, btw. OldPine 22:53, 27 June 2006 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the omission of Pittsfield. I just linked it. The other locations either do not yet have articles or may not fit the definition of an article. SHC 19:51, 28 June 2006 (EDT)

I recently traveled to Orlando Florida and drove east of St Cloud to Lake Lizzie and Alligator Lake where there is the Lake Lizzie Nature preserve. I hiked to the are between the two lakes where the shakers planted their pineapples in the late 1890's as part of their development of their 7000+ acre Olive Branch Shaker Community. I also drove to Narcoossee and went to the cemetary where one of the shaker sisters was suppose to be buried. In all of my exploration, I saw no historical markers or no mention that the shakers were there and cleared much of the land for farming that is now being developed into residential communities.