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Why is it unsafe to display gay/lesbian affection? i live in spokane and have never seen anyone attacked for their orientation in public, i am not gay so i may not be correct, but is that needed on this page?SpokaneWilly 20:04, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

Do you routinely see PDAs that go unremarked? If not, you don't really know how Spokaners would react. That said, I think Spokane is not remarkably different than the rest of the USA on this issue, so no special warning should be added. -- Colin 18:33, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

This is my first day on wikitravel, so what is a pda? and it is spokanite not spokaner.SpokaneWilly 20:05, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

It's not Wikitravel jargon; it just means "public display of affection." --Evan 20:51, 2 July 2006 (EDT)

For what it's worth coming from a well traveled native-born Spokanite, while being more "conservative" (in the best sense of the word, if that's possible, sans any puritan connotations) that the west side (i.e., west of the Cascades), Spokane is no different actually than the majority of the country with respect to "PDA" regardless of orientation. PDA in general is completely inappropriate and distasteful, but we were all young once too. You may hear someone yell "get a room", but that's about as far as it goes. One difference of this region, is that while places like California like to pride themselves and brag themselves up on being "laid back" and "open minded", you'll be hard pressed to find a more easy-going and open minded region in the nation (and elsewhere) than the PNW because of our unique history (that very few appreciate or are even aware of in many cases). This is by and large a VERY tolerant region. When you hear of problems, more often than not it was brought here by people that brought their mindset here from elsewhere (noting that there has been a huge influx of people from TX, CA, the midwest and southeast in recent years, more than doubling the population of the PNW/IE - "Inland Empire").

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Should there really be a list of the major hotel chains in spokane? I think that should be removed and replaced by the local hotels.SpokaneWilly 20:36, 9 July 2006 (EDT)

We want both, and the big chains are easy. -- Colin 20:38, 9 July 2006 (EDT)

Why, i think that it is ugly and not needed. If people are smart enough to travel they are smart enough to know that there will be plenty of national chains in Spokane, the sleep section should be focused on the hotels that are unique to spokane or have significance to the city. And i also believe that the work on the pages should be left to people who know about the city, not people with editing bots. William M 21:52, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

As a community, we do not have a "focus on unique or locally significant hotel policy." If you think that's an error, then go to Wikitravel talk:Accommodation listings and propose a change to the current policy. If you can get a sitewide policy change, then we can implement it here. Until then, being a chain does not count against a hotel listing.
And I don't use an editing bot. Those are my changes and I take responsibility for them. We don't have a "locals decide" policy. Again, I'm not dismissing your idea out-of-hand, just saying it's a community process and we follow site policies rather than individual per-article preferences. So if you think the current policy is old and busted, then propose a new one.
Do see the Wikitravel:Avoid negative reviews policy. If you have a particular reason to recommend against one of the chains (a reason like "drug dealers like this hotel", "windows don't lock", etc.), just remove it and provide a reason here so we can all understand it. -- Colin 22:20, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

Define the "Palouse region"[edit]

I know this isnt regular Wikipedia where things are expected to be sourced, but still, I would like a reputable source (not Wikipedia-user generated: I dont know who made this picture- Washington (state)#Regions) or what it was based upon) that explicitly defines the Palouse region before we lump Spokane into the region. According to the maker of that image, it seems the Palouse is bounded by the Spokane River to the north. But, from my research on the Spokane, Washington Wikipedia article, I was under the impression that the Palouse region ends south of Spokane. Im not a Washington native, but I go to school at Washington State University and i've never heard of this factoid.

What I do know is that Spokane is in a transition area -an area that is heavily forested, and at the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. Spokane is certainly near the Palouse region...but that alone doesnt make it OK to characterize it as part of the region. Geographically I think the Spokane is markedly different, there are more trees and is more mountainous. I would say judging by the below definitions that the Palouse begins around Spangle, Washington, south of Spokane and I think Boise, Idaho is more part of the Palouse than is Spokane (it is North of the Snake River as well, but I dont believe it is considered part of the region also, despite its similar topography.

the National Wrather Service on Spokane: "The city is located on a plateau where the long, gradual slope from the Columbia River meets the sharp rise of the Rocky Mountain ranges. This is a transition area between the desert-like Columbia Basin of central Washington and the forested mountains of north Idaho and northeast Washington...." SOURCE:


Main Entry:

Pronunciation: \pə-ˈlüs\ Function: geographical name

1 river about 140 miles (225 kilometers) NW Idaho & SE Washington flowing W & S into Snake River

2 fertile hilly region E Washington & NW Idaho N of Snake & Clearwater rivers..." SOURCE:

I just want to get the facts straight whatever they may be, and I think there is plenty of doubt about this undefined and unsourced (non-Wikipedia) fact. 03:03, 13 January 2009 (EST)

You might have better luck asking this at Talk:Washington (state). If I recall right, the regions for Washington State were completely reorganized and it may be the Palouse is just a rough holdover from the prior organization. -- Colin 03:06, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Heres another source that verifies the fact that the Palouse region begins South of Spokane.

Excerpt from The "Climate of Washington", Source: Western Regional Climate Center: :

"NORTHEASTERN – The northeastern and higher elevations of the Okanogan highlands, the Selkirk Mountains, and the lower elevations southward to the vicinity of the Spokane River are included in the northeastern area. Ranges of mountains in this section of the State are separated by narrow north-south valleys. The elevation increases from 2,000 feet in the valleys to 6,000 feet along the higher ridges. Most of the temperature and precipitation records are from stations located in the valleys. The average annual precipitation increases in a northeasterly direction from 17 inches in the Spokane area to 28 inches in the northeastern corner of the State. ... PALOUSE-BLUE MOUNTAINS – This area includes counties along the eastern border of the State south from Spokane to the Oregon border and west to near Walla Walla. The elevation increases from 1,000 feet in the vicinity of Walla Walla to 3,500 feet in the Palouse Hills and to 6,000 feet in the Blue Mountains. Precipitation increases as the elevation increases in an easterly direction across this area. Annual precipitation is between 10 to 20 inches over most of the agricultural section increasing to 40 inches or more in the higher elevations of the Blue Mountains. The average winter season snowfall varies from 20 to 40 inches. Snow can be expected in November and to remain on the ground from periods ranging from a few days to two months between the first of December and march. Snowfall and the depth on the ground increase along the slopes of the mountains..."

Even if this data didnt exist, and all we had to go off of was that user-created picture (which shows the "Palouse" region as South of the Spokane river, I think we should still not include Spokane in that region because the majority of Spokane is north of the river.

In sum, the Spokane area represents a transition area between desert-like Central and South-eastern Washington and the Rocky Mountain foothills. I still think we should change the intro... 18:38, 27 January 2009 (EST)