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Talk:Scotts Bluff National Monument

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I still don't know whether this merits a full article. Using the standard of "can you sleep there?", then no, you can't. I suppose it could be folded into articles on Gering or Scottsbluff some time in the future. The thing is that right now, there are a number of pages that link to this article, and giving Scotts Bluff its own article makes it easier to find. Oh well.

If someone else wants to take the info here and put it in the "See" section of a town, they're welcome to it. -- Mikito 19:34, 29 Jun 2005 (EDT)

This one is a bit like Stonehenge in that it is definitely a travel destination worth writing about, and it isn't contained within a town (or even near a town), so it seems like a valid article; trying to lump it into a nearby town's article just because the park service hasn't built a campground seems like it would be awkward and also a bit counter-intuitive. The sleep and eat sections of the article can point to lodging and restaurants in the nearby towns, but otherwise it seems fine the way you've set it up. -- Wrh2 21:18, 29 Jun 2005 (EDT)
Thanks for responding. I tend to think that sites that are accorded some sort of "National" status--national parks, national monuments, etc.--should have their own articles, because as you said, they are destinations. They may not be final destinations, but people certainly go out of their way to see them.
In addition, it simplifies the write-up of surrounding small towns which may not have anything of particular interest to travelers. It's much easier to have one park/monument/historic site article to point to rather than recopy the same info for all of the nearby towns. -- Mikito 23:52, 29 Jun 2005 (EDT)
I agree for the most part, unless a monument/park/etc is contained within a larger destination. Independence Hall obviously should be within Philadelphia, and something like Anacostia Park fits nicely within Washington, D.C.. For the case of Scotts Bluff, which is out in the boonies by its lonesome, having a separate article seems like the way to go. -- Wrh2 01:50, 30 Jun 2005 (EDT)
Mikito: parks, etc. get their own destination page iff they're far from a city and would merit an overnight stay (See Wikitravel:What is an article?). If not, this information should probably be made a long attraction listing at the regional level; either in Nebraska or, more likely, Western Nebraska. --Evan 09:47, 30 Jun 2005 (EDT)
Evan, if the Scotts Bluff info is moved up to the state or regional level, how would the surrounding small towns be formatted? Right now, there aren't any articles for Gering or Scottsbluff. To put it bluntly, I don't know if there is anything of interest in those towns apart from their proximity to Scotts Bluff NM. The info for a Scotts Bluff regional listing could be just recopied into those town listings, but it might end up being longer than anything that is actually in Gering or Scottsbluff. Alternatively, the Scotts Bluff info for the town listing could be presented in abbreviated form, under the "Get out" section. What do you think? -- Mikito 16:39, 30 Jun 2005 (EDT)
The town of Scottsbluff really should have an article; it (with neighboring Gering) is about the only place for miles where you can find lodging, there are other historical sites nearby, and it's on a reasonably major road. I'll take a whack at it, and perhaps the national monument page should be merged into it if and when there's an article. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 15:12, 30 July 2006 (EDT)