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Extra cities[edit]

I removed these from the main page's cities list to get it down to 9:

  • Holambra - Near Campinas, a city of Dutch colonization and greater producer in Brazil of flowers. At the end of winter every year, there is the "Expoflora", an exhibition of flowers and typical Dutch dances and presentations.
  • Ilhabela - A beach city, with some of the most beautiful beaches in the state.
  • Barretos - Known by the rodeo, with large farms and the greatest rodeo of the world.
  • Ribeirão Preto - Sometimes nicknamed "The Brazilian California". It's the third largest city in the state, after Campinas and São Paulo City.
  • São Caetano do Sul - Close to São Paulo City, it's the Brazilian city with the highest standard of living.

Texugo 08:44, 24 January 2011 (EST)

about the cities list[edit]

I wouldn´t keep Holambra or Barretos or Ilhabela or Ubatuba or Maresias out of the main list for the benefit of Osasco or Campinas or SJC, which are important economically but not so much as far as the traveller is concerned. Texugo understands Portuguese and seems to have been to Brazil already. I bet he wouldn´t disagree. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

I pulled Barretos and Ilhabela out because we need the list down to 9, and those don't have articles at all yet. I agree that Ubatuba and some of the others need to be substituted in for Osasco, etc. I thought I would first see what we have and don't have articles for and try to organize a bit before tackling that though. See below:
Texugo 09:38, 24 January 2011 (EST)


In an attempt to clean up and organize, I am using this as a workspace to figure out what we have and don't have in SP: Texugo 09:38, 24 January 2011 (EST)

The following list is now loosely organized by region. This is not necessarily a proposal to regionify the state as of yet, just an intermediary step in that direction.Texugo 11:11, 24 January 2011 (EST)

  • Campinas area
  • Central
  • North
  • Northwest
  • Sorocaba area
  • West
  • Piraíba Valley


An excellent map for reference of Grande São Paulo can be found here. Texugo 09:49, 25 January 2011 (EST)

New region proposal[edit]

(copied from pt:Discussão:São Paulo (estado)) I thought I would put this here too, since we tend to share map files across language versions. A new proposal to regionify the state-- I based it on governmental meso-regions here, combining them in twos or threes to create nine regions that basically conform to the results of a discussion on pt:. With SP, it has been notoriously difficult to arrive at 7+-2 regions, and I think this is the best scheme we've hit upon so far, so I thought I'd air it here as well for comments. What do you think? texugo 23:47, 13 February 2011 (EST)

SP Mock 1.png
Mesoregions or Araçatuba and São José do Rio Preto
Mesoregiões of Barretos, Franca, and Ribeirão Preto
Mesoregions of Marília and Presidente Prudente
Mesoregions of Bauru and Central (Araraquara)
Campinas Region
Mesoregion of Campinas
Mesoregion of Sorocaba
Santos and South Coast
Mesoregions of Registro and Baixada Santista
Greater São Paulo
Metropolitan Mesoregion of São Paulo
North Coast
Mesoregion of São José dos Campos

Looks good, but do we really need that many regions? Maybe they could be merged a bit to a total of say 5 or 6 (I do not know the region well enough to suggest how)? I have reinserted the missing cities in the article, please do not delete until we have the regional structure in place, --ClausHansen 17:31, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
Well, it is by very far the most populous state in Brazil, and almost the size of Texas. The 9 subregions arose over on pt:, where there are 249 articles started, and despite the fact that we don't have as many articles yet over here, I think it unwise to group them any further. It was a real fight just to arrive at what seems like consensus over there. texugo 18:00, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
Ok, fine with me, should we move on and create the nine regions then, it appears that no-one has had any comments for months?, --ClausHansen 18:13, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
Sounds good to me, though with my Inkscape on the fritz, I may have to kindly ask if you can make the English .png map from my .svg. texugo 20:02, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
I can, where do I find the svg?, --ClausHansen 02:51, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
Looks like I hadn't uploaded it yet since this was just a mock up. I uploaded it here. Thanks! texugo 09:47, 9 August 2011 (EDT)

I went ahead and created the region articles and put the map in the article (since it is at least color coded), and I've been working on bringing in articles, or at least starting to, from pt: texugo 13:09, 20 August 2011 (EDT)