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Initial comments[edit]

I started this with text from the deleted retirement in Thailand article. Discussion there indicated this article might be a good idea. I've already deleted some text from the old article & more needs to go.

It needs much more, notably a list of countries that have a retirement visa available, with links to gov't sites with details. Australia, Indonesia & Thailand do. Others? Pashley 21:30, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

I've now deleted most of the old article's text. What is left is a bunch of stuff under the heading "complications", basically anything that looked to me like it might be useful as a reminder of things that need to be covered. It all needs rewriting in this context.
I won't be doing more work on this soon. Others are encouraged to jump in. Pashley 00:59, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
Made first pass on a rewrite. It still needs other contributors. Pashley 02:44, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
Very nice work Pashley. --Burmesedays 08:31, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

Contributions wanted[edit]

This is now about as far as I can take it. So far, I'm the only writer. It has been bumped to Guide status, but it is not actually complete. In particular, the list of countries with retirement visa programs has gaps of two types. One is that I almost certainly have not found all the possibilities, for either investment visas or retirement visas. Can anyone add some?

The other problem is that for several countries I found travel agents offering visa services but was unable to find a primary source, government site. I've added those countries to the list but without primary source links. Finding the gov't sites should be relatively easy; just Google for "retirement visa" plus something like "site:.gov.bz". The latter part restricts the search to government domains. Unfortunately, I cannot do much of that because I am in China and the Great Firewall is currently sabotaging Google. Volunteers? Pashley 00:37, 18 May 2011 (EDT)

Except for the above, I think it is done. Pashley 03:23, 15 June 2011 (EDT)
I changed the text for the investment visas so it now says these are just examples, with enough money you can go almost anywhere. The retirement visa list is still incomplete, though, and that's a problem. Pashley 02:45, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Colonial remnants?[edit]

Are the few remaining overseas territories of colonial powers easy to retire in? Can a Briton go to Gibraltar without a visa, an American to Puerto Rico, or a Frenchman to French Polynesia? Pashley

What about former territories? Do Britons get special treatment in Malta or Americans in the Philippines? Are there some where resentment of the colonial past would be problem for a possible retiree? Pashley
I added text to cover this. Pashley 21:24, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Fruitless image width reduction[edit]

Sometimes I reduce the display width of images in articles out of (a misguided and ignorant?) concern for those travellers struggling with low speed and unreliable internet connections.

However it now occurs to me that just reducing the pixel width from, say 600px to 300px will have no effect whatever on the bytes to be actually downloaded -it just instructs the browser how to render the (already) downloaded image.

Would it be a very difficult technical task to automate the production of a reduced size (both in byte size and native width) image (thumb) whenever a (relatively) large image is uploaded and then to call it automatically with a specific image parameter syntax? --W. Franke-mailtalk 04:58, 25 September 2012 (EDT)

Star article[edit]

comments below were copied from this article's successful Star nomination

Could this be our first star travel topic? Teaching English has been nominated and slushed; as far as I know no others have even been nominated.

It is not entirely complete — see the talk page for comment on that — but I think it is at least close to star level. Of course I'm the only author so far, so I cannot really judge. Comments here or contributions could fairly easily get it the last bit of the way, I think. Pashley 02:33, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

Query. Really like this article and would love to see it as a Star. Are there though any criteria for travel topic status?--Burmesedays 02:01, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Link at top of this page takes you to Wikitravel:Travel_topic_status. Pashley 02:47, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Ah yes :). That will teach me for not looking. --Burmesedays 03:49, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Also Burmesedays, it may be useful to keep in mind as you read the stated goal within the article: "This article covers moving abroad to retire."
Are there any countries where you simply cannot retire in even if you want to or that you absoultely have to move to/become a citizen to live in? I tried looking up Uzbekistan, Kenya and Senegal, for example, and couldn't find any information on how to retire in these countries. Perhaps they have investor's visas, but maybe not.
The article is also highly centralized around retiring to Asia, which I know is the most common, but some geographical diversity in examples and pictures would be good. There are plenty of amazing coastal cities in Africa, for example, that have the same sort of exotic appeals that may attract someone to Thailand or the Caribbean, but it's difficult to know what/how much information applies for areas outside of Asia. ChubbyWimbus 04:04, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Yep I am sure that is the case. I suspect finding the information (if it exists at all) for most African countries would be a bit of a nightmare. :::This is a very worthy topic, and one I am quite close to as I have assisted a number of retirees in understanding what is involved in acquiring a retirement residency visa in Indonesia. I think Pashley has done an excellent job with the structure of the article, it is certainly well written, and as far as I can tell, it seems complete. --Burmesedays 10:43, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
Not the first Star travel topic. Chicago skyline guide has that distinction, and there are 5 others related to Scuba Diving around Cape Town. See Wikitravel:Star article#Travel topics
South Africa has quite a number of Europeans who have retired here. Mostly Germans and Britons, who take advantage of the good exchange rate to enjoy the milder climate. Many are what is locally known as "Swallows", as they tend to go north for the winter, and so don't actually stay here permanently. However some do, though permanent is never certain while one is still alive. I have no idea what the arrangements are, as I am local, so retiring here would be a natural progression for me, requiring no special procedures. The information must be available somewhere. • • • Peter (Southwood) Talk 08:55, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

This one has been hanging out there a long time. I would like to propose that it is promoted to star. --burmesedays 12:22, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

  • Strong Support the geographical expansion can follow afterwards and, if and when it does, the article will need to be split so it does not become too long. --W. Franke-mailtalk 07:12, 25 September 2012 (EDT)
  • Strong Support Mmmm, just read this after noticing the premature Bangkok nomination below. This one definitely is a star! --118.93.73.30 16:15, 14 January 2013 (EST)
  • Strong Support An excellent article largely constructed by one outstanding editor. There does not seem to be any opposition to this article's promotion to Star status forthwith so this should happen right away so that other editors working on travel topics have a Star article to emulate. (Since I have now registered an account, I shall strike my earlier support made before I registered.)--118dot93dot73dot30 19:15, 28 February 2013 (EST)