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To, Sorry about the reversion. I was trying to deal with another vandal and a section that you were working on that seemed to have a lot of info removed. Thanks for all the work put into this page. -- Brendio 20:00, 20 Jan 2006 (EST)

Yes, good information... albeit suffering from the common Detroit-area misconception that the the state only extends as far west and north as Jackson and Flint (e.g. listing Lansing's airfield but not G.R.Ford International). I'm working to correct that. - Todd VerBeek 10:20, 9 April 2006 (EDT)


Is it possible to change Western Michigan to West Michigan? I tried making the change but learned it needs to be discussed first, sorry about that.

Would it perhaps make sense to split Southeast Michigan into Southeast Michigan and Flint/Tri-cities? I'm planning to make a Michigan regions map, and the one I'm looking at right now is this one. Thoughts? --Peter Talk 22:11, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Also, I'm not sure of which counties belong in the other lower peninsula regions. Does the map I linked above get that right? --Peter Talk 22:15, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Foreign cars[edit]

There seem to be disagreement about this paragraph: "If you are renting a car, it is suggested that you rent an American car to avoid offending anyone." I've reverted a removal as i have first hand account of someone getting in trouble. Sertmann 14:13, 12 November 2008 (EST)

People really get pissed about that? Don't Americans like German, Italian, and Japanese cars? What about Toyota and Hyundai or Daimler? Keep smiling, ee talk 14:17, 12 November 2008 (EST).
Yeah, my friend were driving a Hyundai as far as I remember (not sure if there is something special with Korean cars). Guess a Daimler (whatever that is) would be OK, since it's the same owner as Chrysler - and i guess it's mainly in Detroit and surroundings. Sertmann 14:32, 12 November 2008 (EST)
That is so wierd. I don't get that and I've never seen it the times I've been in the US. That is so odd! We definitely don't have that problem in Canada. Hrrrm...that is just cruel and pretty dumb ,why would people be like that? It's retarded-no offense Americans though I'm sure that most of yeh on here don't do that. But wow. Don't Americans like Porsche and Lexus-don't they crave foreign vehicles-I mean it's on their TV lots. Keep smiling, ee talk 14:51, 12 November 2008 (EST).
You're not getting it, it's not Americans, it's the 10.000's of laid of auto workers, their relatives, and remaining colleagues from the auto industry in Detroit, that takes offense. Sertmann 14:53, 12 November 2008 (EST)
Ooooooooh, so it's more of a Detroit auto industry thing. I don't think they have it in Windsor, Detroit's twin. Keep smiling, ee talk 15:03, 12 November 2008 (EST).


An anon added Ann Arbor to the list. I have reverted back to our maximum of nine items per list, but it does seem like Ann Arbor belongs in that list! Just take a look at the Ann Arbor article compared to others here. There are several that could be swapped out for it, but I'd say Saginaw would be the most obvious candidate. Opinions? --Peter Talk 00:54, 27 July 2012 (EDT)

I'd suggest either Saginaw or Holland (Michigan), and I'd lean towards dropping Saginaw simply because Holland has a bit more for travelers. As the home to a major university I would think Ann Arbor would be a bigger draw than either of those two, and that article is at star status and thus worth highlighting. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:02, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
Ann Arbor is already listed, under "Other Destinations", hidden behind a link that reads "University of Michigan". I completely oppose having two links to Ann Arbor. LtPowers 11:40, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
Wouldn't it make more sense to remove the non-standard University of Michigan entry? We wouldn't drop Columbus from the Ohio article and replace it with an other destination of Ohio State University, or (to use a similar-sized city) include an "other destination" of Cornell University in the New York (state) article instead of listing Ithaca as a city. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:53, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
Sure we would, and why not? See, for example, Mid-Atlantic#Other destinations, where we list "Gettysburg Battlefield" but link to Gettysburg. Or Pennsylvania#Other destinations where we have Gettysburg again, and "Pennsylvania State University" linked to State College. Neither of those cities has any business being in Pennsylvania#Cities; they are notable only for the non-city destinations they host. I see no problem with putting them under Other destinations. Ann Arbor's more akin to Ithaca than State College, I will admit... but it's either/or here, not both. LtPowers 21:28, 27 July 2012 (EDT)