the food should be better discussed. More objective. I can't do it, because in the one year I was there, I tasted things so horrible, I was glad to go to macdonalds or places that sell "western food" (borshch is great though!)
Max: I've added couple of food items which could be of interest for westeners. Did anyone of you liked Vareniki with sour cream?
I was born in Kiev and lived there for 25 years and think that language situation is not described precisely. I'm Ukrainian, but I consider Russian to be my native language. There is absolutely no any problem if you'll try to speak in Russian to someone on a street for directions, etc. There might be some political tension from time to time between Russia and Ukraine but Russian language is still used by more than 50% of Kiev's population. Even in Ukrainian-speaking Western Ukraine (Lviv) attitude toward Russian language has improved significantly since early 90s.
University of Bribes
The author wrote "The red Shevchenko university is famous in whole Ukraine. It's also famous for asking for bribes for everything." I tried to find an unbiased source to confirm this and I have yet to find anything that says this is a corrupt university. Check out the Wikipedia article. I'm going to delete the bribe info for now. We should only add this back in if we can find an unbiased resource that confirms this allegation. Sapphire 19:05, 4 Jan 2006 (EST)
Removed the contact "information," Wikitravel is a travel information site, not an international dating site. Brian Hnatiak
I have just changed this article from stub to usable status. On a second thought, I think the eat and sleep entries need more details and their format should comply with our manual of style. I'm changing the status again now, to Outline, in hope that other contributors will feel compelled to add more details to the article. -- Rmx 13:29, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
Per our Wikitravel:article naming conventions, we use the most common English name for a destination. I don't think "Kyiv" has passed up "Kiev" in the English language for this city. Note we explicitly don't use the official or local name; see Wikitravel:Why Wikitravel doesn't use official names. I've reverted the changes to this article that changed "Kiev" to "Kyiv"; please discuss here before changing back. --Evan 10:12, 1 December 2006 (EST)
Hi sorry, am only new to Wikipedia editing. Just to let you know, 90 per cent of english spelling referring to the city name here in town is Kyiv. And the US government has recently agreed to only use 'Kyiv' when referring to the city ( http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/wireStory?id=2588280 ). Usage may increase in short time. -- BJT, 26 December 2006, 15:39pm
Google is not the arrguement See Ukriane vs the Ukraine
--220.127.116.11 11:31, 25 March 2018 (EDT) Does it really make sense to change the English spelling to the Ukrainian transliteration when by doing so will surely mean we'll have to start pronouncing the name of the city differently. Ukraine has only been a country since 1991, but the earliest record of it being printed in as Kiev in English is from 1804. Should we really be changing the English language to appease Ukrainian nationalists?
I deleted the Tours section that links to a website that organises stag parties (and escorts) as I didn't think it adhered to the external links guidelines. Wikitravel isn't a dating agency. - user BJT, 26 December 2006
-It is polite to chat loudly (e.g., in Metro) and wave one's hands.-.... this was listed... I can't imagine it is polite to chat loudly and wave on'es hands... I do it all the time though
Bring toilet paper...
The article suggests that you should bring a flash light and toilet paper with you to avoid "surprises". Although I would agree that Kiev and Ukraine in general is still well behind many Western European countries, toilet paper is not an issue and has not been since the end of the Soviet times. This comment could mislead readers as to how developed Kiev trully is. I suggest to remove it.
Hello, for some reason the text about TIU hostels was removed from the Sleep / Budget section. Does it violate some Wikitravel rules or is it just someone's bad joke? I have put it back - please advise if there is something wrong with it, as I am pretty new here and may have made some mistakes inadvertently. Thanks! - Artyom
Dear community, the TIU hostels info has been removed again for no reason and without any explanation - apparently by the same person that was editing the Kiev Lodging Hostel information block, as can be clearly seen from the user contributions history. In our opinion such behavior is quite unethical and childish, if that was done by the members of the Kiev Lodging Hostel team. Please advise. Thanks! - (TIU Hostels Team, March 12, 2010)
Mr. Claus Hansen, why did you revert the revision 1467444 and replace the TIU Hostels section content with the incorrect information? The addresses and phone numbers are non-existent, the description is incorrect too - these hostels do not belong to one person, they are not just a one-bedroom apartments, check them out on the Hostelworld.com or Hostels.com booking engine websites and see also the customer reviews left by the people that did actually stayed in those hostels. -- TIU Hostels Team, June 1, 2010
All users please watch this article carefully for dodgy edits from anon users who I think are rival hostel owners changing competitor entries.--Burmesedays 02:56, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
Ryan: Why did you remove section regarding www.roomme.net. This web site lists apartments for short term rental in Kiev and other ukrainian cities. It could be helpful for travelers to find apartments descriptions and phone numbers of its owners in one place. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Garyachy (talk • contribs)
Does it really cost 230UAH for a monthly pass valid on all forms of public transport? That works out at the cost of 135 journeys, which nobody is likely to make in one month. Which means that a season ticket is actually more expensive than just buying tickets, which seems very silly.
However, if you are from Western Europe or North America, you may find service in restaurants and shops difficult. What does it suppose to mean? That there are not too much english speakers in Ukraine? Say it! Anyone-fun 21:20, 21 January 2011 (EST)
Get In by Bus
The present version says that the buses arrive at the central station, which is not very central. Does this refer to the central BUS station or the central railway station? If the former, can anyone provide the location? Shep 00:51, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
As a Ukrainian originally from Lviv who has been to Kyiv many times, the part about only the migrants from the west being able to speak Ukrainian, and ethnic Russians forming 12% of the population, is simply false. Ethnic Ukrainians form at least 90%, as many of Russians went back to Russia (thank God). Russian-speaking Ukrainians are also a minority. In recent years, especially in the downtown area, it is increasingly rare to hear Russian in the streets, and rightfully so, as this is not a Russian city, it is the capital and largest city of Ukraine, although unfortunately some Russian imperialists refuse to acknowledge this. —The preceding comment was added by 18.104.22.168 (talk • contribs)
The above comment is complete nonsense and politically moivated by someone from L'viv. I was in Kiev two years ago and met a girl in her early 20s. She spoke Russian and Ukrainian. She hates Russia so much, but still prefers to speak it over Ukrainian. She said that natives of Kiev all do this. It should be Kiev because this is the English spelling and not just the Russia translieration. —The preceding comment was added by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs)
List of sources (in Ukrainian): a) http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2017/04/12/7141042/
I am new to the site thus unsure how to add one, but shouldn't a travel advisory be added? The protests are getting worse by the way, and even if the place isn't a war zone (yet), there's enough unrest to at least mention it for the casual traveler that tends to read these. Bluei4corridor (talk) 21:16, 25 January 2014 (EST)