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Island Pages[edit]

Should the smaller islands (currently somewhat awkwardly listed under See) be joined together as a single, separate page, as "Outer Islands (Falklands)" or whatever the correct term is? It seems unlikely that they will ever grow into article-length entries. Jpatokal 04:53, 15 Feb 2005 (EST)

I'll update this a bit more as I have time. This is my first attempt with the whole wiki thing, so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong. I did try and read through the various style guides and a few other entries before starting.
The island bits can probably be moved to their own pages and expanded, and the Stanley section needs more work. Also, once the image uploading is fixed I'll try and add a few pictures to this section. -- Wrh2 01:02, 15 Feb 2005 (PST)
I've created two new pages for Sea Lion Island and Pebble Island using the district template -- hopefully this is correct. I followed what was done for the various districts in Singapore, but please let me know if there is a better way to handle this. And since it may seem odd to use districts for islands, keep in mind that in the Falklands the islands generally have a single owner and populations that you can count on one hand, so using anything more comprehensive seemed like overkill.
As long as no one objects I'll go ahead and do the same for the remaining islands under the "See" section.
By the way, how do you get the user and time link to appear under these sorts of postings? Do I just type them in myself, or is there an automated way to do it?
Hi! To answer your second question first, just type four tildas (the squiggle line, like in some spanish words... sorry don't know how to make it show up!) and it will put in your username and date automagically.
Now your first question, we really try to use the district pages only for real districts. No matter how small a destination is, it gets its own article. If these places are really really tiny, like maybe not even a Wikitravel:What is an article?, then you can put them as attractions. But if they are places you'd stay and eat and sleep, then they should probably get their own pages. I'll try and dig up the big long conversation that explains the reasoning behind this... I look forward to reading more! Majnoona 14:54, 16 Feb 2005 (EST)
Thanks! According to the criteria on the Wikitravel:What is an article? page the outlyting islands definitely should get their own article. If I'm using the wrong template (which is likely, I have a small brain) then let me know what is appropriate, although I didn't immediately see another template that looked relevant. Wrh2 15:00, 16 Feb 2005 (EST)
The template is fine (district & small city are pretty much identical), but the naming is a little off — districts are only used for huge cities. So I've moved Falkland Islands/Pebble Island to just plain Pebble Island, etc. If somebody ever writes up a Pebble Island somewhere else (?) then it can be moved to Pebble Island (Falklands). Jpatokal 21:29, 16 Feb 2005 (EST)
OK, sounds good. Thanks for cleaning up the pages. Wrh2 22:10, 16 Feb 2005 (EST)

Two thumbs up![edit]

Amazing work! Add in a few pictures, absorb the last bits of the Factbook and this will be prime Destination of the Month material. Jpatokal 01:03, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

More Changes[edit]

Still trying to clean this up a bit more, but feel free to revert if I'm making a cess pit of things. After taking a look at how the entry for Hawaii is done I changed the Falklands entry so that the outlying islands are under "Regions". Also, since the "cities" in the Falklands have populations in the dozens, I renamed that to "Towns" -- feel free to revert if needed. Weddell is gone now, too -- it wasn't a place I remembered from my travels, and a quick look at the travel guide shows that it's not a major destination. Oh, I also removed "Other Destinations" since the islands are under "Regions" now. Wrh2 02:01, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

You're doing a great job! The templates aren't cast in steel, feel free to edit them as necessary — places as remote and thinly populated as the Falklands don't really fit the city templates that well. Jpatokal 03:55, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

Goose Green & Port Howard[edit]

I'm going to be on the road for a bit, and internet access may be sporadic, but before I head off I just wanted to note that Goose Green and Port Howard still have no content behind them. I've not visited either place, and therefore wouldn't be able to create more than a basic stub for either one. For now I think both of these can be left empty, and hopefully in the future someone who has visited them can create articles, rather than me trying to cobble something together based on information from the internet and travel guides. -- Wrh2 21:50, 10 Mar 2005 (EST)

Cities vs. Towns[edit]

Since there is a descriptive note under "Towns" indicating that most settlements in the Falklands have populations of less than 50 it seems fair to leave the heading as "town". I realize that it doesn't exactly follow the template, but "city" seems a bit silly for the Falklands. -- Wrh2 08:53, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Country or Territory?[edit]

The term Country is used several times in the article. However, it is really only a dependent Territory of the United Kingdom. So I think Country should be replaced with Territory or else island. -- Huttite 23:12, 2 Dec 2005 (EST)

Makes sense, thanks. -- Ryan 16:23, 3 Dec 2005 (EST)

Islas Malvinas[edit]

This article makes it clear that Argentina has claims on the island, but there have still been numerous edits to change the text of the article. At present the country is administered and most commonly known as the Falkland Islands, with the capital named Stanley. If you would like to change the article to more explicitly reflect Argentina's claims, please discuss here first with any arguments as to why those changes are appropriate. Undiscussed changes will almost certainly end up being reverted, so please take the time to state your case if you feel changes must be made. -- Ryan 16:23, 3 Dec 2005 (EST)

It looks like the Argentine vs. British debate is flaring up again, so I've toned down the history section a bit more to make it clear that the islands are controlled by Britain, claimed by Argentina, and the whole history of how things got that way is muddled. Per Wikitravel:Be fair#Political disputes policy is to "stick to the bare minimum of facts necessary, presented as neutrally as possible, while keeping a firm focus on the traveller's interests". A traveler doesn't care who had what garrison at what time in the early 19th century, so hopefully this new text is acceptable. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:17, 1 March 2010 (EST)

LAN Chile[edit]

Does the LAN Chile flight still exist as described? Their Website returns zilch for a Punto Arenas-Port Stanley routing. 12:04, 13 September 2006 (EDT)

It's not showing up on the LAN route map, so you may want to check with a travel agent. If it turns out that the flight is no longer operating please feel free to update the information in the Falklands article. -- Ryan 13:36, 13 September 2006 (EDT)

The LAN flight goes to Mount Pleasant (MPN), not Port Stanley (PSY).