Plaka district heading
On the Athens page district list the district is called Plaka, Monastiraki, and Thissio, but the linked district page is only called Plaka. Shouldn't it also be called Plaka, Monastirak, and Thissio on the header of the district page? Apparently I can't change it with the edit function. Sailsetter 12:45, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
help with adding an image
If there is someone who can add my [[Image:Acropolis-athens.JPG]] into the article in an acceptable size I'd be thankful (of course only if the image is considered acceptable and helpful to Wikitravel). --EBB 17:41, 1 Aug 2004 (EDT) Otherwise delete it, please. --EBB 17:44, 1 Aug 2004 (EDT)
It looks like someone replaced the whole Athens section with a page that was blank except for a line complaining about spam. This seems like an obscure motivation. Anyway, I reverted back to the previous full version, which I understand is the proper thing to do. First time I've done this so hope I did it right. Sailsetter 10:53, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
I've revised the Eat section to:
I've started to move some restaurants I put on the Athens page to the district pages, which I gather is where they are supposed to be. I have to say though that I really dislike this way of organizing things, both as a contributor and a user. I think in fact it's the worst single thing about Wikitravel. Sailsetter 18:53, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
Cost of taxi rides
"Expect to pay about 20 euro by taxi during the day, and 30-35 euro after midnight and before 5am.". How long is the ride? I live in Athens and taxis are never that expensive. Dimitris 14:52, 13 Jan 2005 (EST)
Actually, 20 euro for a taxi ride from Athens city proper all the way to Elefhterios Venizelos sounds about right, if not more. It's a pretty long distance, by Athens/Attica standards, plus don't forget the expensive tolls on Attiki Odos motorway, which are added to the cab fare. skyduster 00:21, 22 August 2006 (EDT)
How much would be ride from Athens centre to Sounio and back? Do I need to add some tolls? --Kyknos 06:48, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
removal of details on BestWestern chain
I just discovered removal of details on BestWestern from the Sleep section, with a comment "Too much Best Western, and not specific".
Later, someone removed sublist indents from Zinon and Elysium, making first bullet (Bestwestern itself) totally useless:
(compare it to the version just before the removal)
I'd like to advocate that removed piece was useful--although I'm sure it can be abridged with someone's help.
--DenisYurkin 16:54, 10 February 2007 (EST)
I've removed the comments about BW hotels' handling of visa documentation for two reasons. First, the wording clearly implies that non-EU citizens need to apply in advance for visas to visit Greece, which isn't true. I'm not an EU citizen, and I've traveled to Greece frequently for many years, including recently, without ever having to apply for a visa in advance. The present wording is likely to confuse travelers who don't need visas for Greece into thinking that they do. Any comments about non-EU citizens needing visas should specify, either in the current text or by reference link elsewhere, exactly what non-EU citizens need them, and this specification should be on the basis of researching the current regulations.
Second, if we want to warn those who do need visas that they need to be sure to have properly documented hotel reservations, I think it would be much more useful to put this warning in the general Greece section, with, if necessary, a warning specifying that certain hotel chains are a problem in this regard, rather than putting it under the specific hotel in the Athens section. The problem may exist also with other hotels, so this is something that should be put in a section which all travelers needing visas are likely to read, not a section which will be read only by those who happen to want to stay at a particular hotel. Sailsetter 10:46, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
airport transfer by metro: removal of wating time
As the following piece was removed from GetIn:ByPlane section,
does it mean that this delay is no more a case, and is resolved in some way? Would anyone comment on the present situation? Thanks. --DenisYurkin 17:26, 10 February 2007 (EST)
Map of Athens Needed
This page could do with a outline map shown the main districts and some key locations.
There are currently way too many districts with next to nothing inside, so for starters, I've merged together Plaka/Monastiraki/Thissio and Omonia/Exarcheia. Jpatokal 10:25, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
I've removed the link to KTEL since it leads to a Greek language page. So far as I know there isn't an English language KTEL page, but if there is, feel free to put it there. Sailsetter 15:04, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
New Acropolis Museum
It seems to be impossible to get reliable information about either the opening of the New Acropolis Museum or the status of the old one anywhere, including the new museum's web site and the Greek Ministry of Culture's web site. I've updated the listing with information found on gogreece.about.com, a site which I've found generally reliable. If anyone has definite information on the status of either museum, please add or revise. Sailsetter 11:29, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
I suggest getting rid of the links to individual District pages in the Districts section, copying the information on the linked pages either to the Districts section of the Athens page or to the appropriate Athens page sections (restaurants, safety, etc.) and then deleting the individual district pages. This would correspond with almost the universal practice of guidebooks: have a chapter on the city, with a section listing all restaurants by district, then all hotels by district, etc., and not have different sections for each district, listing hotels, restaurants, etc. together in separate district sections. As it is, we have both these types of organization in conflict, and the individual district pages have information that many people aren't going to see -- I probably looked at the Athens page twenty times before it occurred to me to look at some individual district pages where I found listings that sometimes duplicated, and sometimes supplemented, information on the Athens page. Information on shopping, restaurants, hotels, etc. should really all be in one place, not spread apart with some on the district pages and some on the Athens page. Sailsetter 19:27, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
I've removed the advice "Check  for timetables." I know that in general official sites shouldn't be removed, but I think this is an exception, since the link is given as a means for checking ferry schedules, and in fact that site contains no such information. The site belongs on the Greece page, but not in this section, where it is irrelevant, and not under such a mis-identification. I see that the link is already at the top of the Greece page, which is where it does belong. Sailsetter 11:25, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
The list of museum names sometimes had The before the name, sometimes The and sometimes omitted The, so I just took The out everywhere. I couldn't find a standard for this and I don't think it matters what it is, but it should be consistent. Sailsetter 16:27, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
I've deleted the listing for Marina hotel since it's Wikitravel policy not to post completely negative reviews; listings are supposed to be of recommended establishments, even if some drawbacks are mentioned. Sailsetter 19:21, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
Hi all. The 'history' section of Athens is poorly written with incorrect information. Although I don't know much about Greek history (although know Athens very well), can we please use the wikipedia history section on Athens? Leaving it the way it is, is a great injustice, especially considering how important Athens's history was for Western civilization. Thanks. --MarinaK 20:41, 29 August 2008 (EDT)MarinaK.
I've reverted the district format to what it was before MarinaK's revision, since I believe the previous version is the Wikitravel standard format for district sections -- see for instance the district sections for London or Paris. (I would have posted this comment the first time I changed it back but Wikitravel became inaccessible due to technical problems before I could do it.) Sailsetter 22:16, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
Hotels in District section
I've deleted the listings on the Athens page for the Grande Bretagne and Electra Palace hotels since they are listed respectively on the Syntagma and Plaka District pages. If those listings need editing or additions, please change them there. There was some discussion of this, I think in Travelers Pub, and it was said that the policy for a huge city is to have listings on the district pages. I know there are still some hotels on the Athens page, but I've been trying to move them all to the district pages -- help would be welcome! Meanwhile, my understanding of the policy is that we should keep the Athens Sleep section for general remarks and put specific listings on the District pages. Sailsetter 12:25, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I've added a page under Attica for Spata, where the main Athens (and Greek) airport is, but it isn't clear to me if the airport ought to be listed there or under Athens -- any ideas? The advantage of putting the airport on the Spata page is that then you could list hotels near the airport there. Otherwise they'd have to be listed on the Athens page, but they're not really in Athens. Sailsetter 18:43, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
I've removed the bike rental links because they weren't listings. Wikipedia is meant to be useful when printed out; accordingly, it shouldn't have links in the form of you can find the information here. If anyone wants to put these links back in, please do it in the form of listings as specified in Wikitravel style documentation. Sailsetter 15:12, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
Article status: Guide
I suggest that this article meets the criteria for Guide Status. I propose to change the status after allowing for discussion. If anyone disagrees, please describe what specific further revisions you think would be needed to qualify for that status. Thank you. Sailsetter 15:26, 26 January 2009 (EST)
The Stay safe in Athens is the longest Stay safe section on Wkitravel as far as I can tell, why is this the case? It's longer than similar sections for Kabul, Tegucigalpa and Baghdad combined.
Some statements do not seem to be supported by facts-
"Be careful of different politically charged areas of Athens. While comparatively a minority compared to leftists, there are some far-right areas of Athens where the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party is strong." What are these areas of the city that are so politically charged? Presumably the author knows where these areas are if they decided to write that statement of fact. But yet the author chooses not to tell us. Then there is another similar statement - "On the other hand, some parts of Athens are the domain of the far left, including anarchists. In some of these areas the government, especially the central government has virtually no authority." Again, which areas are not under the control of the government? I believe the author is just writing these statements based on rumors and doesn't really know what these specific areas are.
The section is also not written well-
The statement says "There is also absolutely no reason that a tourist will travel to Acharnon and Liossion Street and the triangle between Peiraios, Athinas and Sofokleous street." Of course there is a reason that a tourist will travel to those areas - because they choose to. Does the author mean 'no reason that a tourist should travel...'?
Here is another statement with no supporting facts-
Special care should be taken in crossing streets in Athens' chaotic traffic, even if you have the walk light. Alot (sic) of the time, even if the green man is showing, there are cars with their green light showing they can drive through that way. The street crossing lights function normally in Athens. There are no crossing lights that approve you to walk and also give a green light to drivers directly in your path. Again, where is the location of this crossing? Presumably the author must know where these malfunctioning crossing signals are. Perhaps they can notify a police officer or the city of Athens to have them corrected? But again, the author refuses to tell us the location of another dangerous area.
As noted in previous posts on this page, Athens suffers from overdistrictification which makes reading articles difficult for readers. When to districtify -- and when not to distrify -- is outlined here. Several district pages contain little information. With very limited number of subway lines, traversing the city is not terribly difficult. Zepppep (talk) 01:44, 26 January 2014 (EST)