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Talk:Arlington (Virginia)

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Can anyone write or find a brief (3 or 4 paragraph) history of Arlington to include here?

Understand section[edit]

I removed the following inaccurate (the CIA headquarters is in Langley, not Arlington) and rather rambling paragraph.

Arlington county consists of many suburban neighborhoods as well as pockets of urban development surrounding Alexandria and the Metro stops along the Orange line. Much of the development of the county was spurred by the massive growth of the Federal Government in the 1950's (the Pentagon and CIA headquarters reside in Arlington) and the continuing growth of private contractors in the region. The suburban areas are diverse as some areas are dominated by pricey homes and high income residents, while other areas are dominated by low-income (mostly immigrant) residents.

I'd like to keep the Understand section focused on what makes Arlington unique for travelers. Obvious sociological type comments that some areas have high income residents and some low income residents could describe almost anywhere and don't really add any value for the visitor.

That said, maybe the sections we should focus on now are Sleep, Do, Buy and Drink. Arlington has so much in these areas yet the article lists very little. I think if we beefed up those sections this article would definetly be worthy of guide status, then we could hash out the understand section. SONORAMA 11:36, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

Promotion to Usable[edit]

All this needs for Usablecity status is some complete listings for the Eat section and maybe a couple more Sleep. Locals? OldPine 06:53, 31 October 2006 (EST)

Break up[edit]

While this is somewhere between a county and a city, it is too dense an area to fit into one article. It should be broken up along the lines of Rosslyn, Crystal City, etc. That could be done as a region page + city articles, but I would prefer to see it done as a city article + districts. --Peter Talk 03:09, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

The problem IMO is that few people look up "Arlington" by itself. Instead they plan to go to Washington DC and work or happenstance directs them to Arlington. There's not even that much that links to the Arlington page, esp. as compared to the DC page. SONORAMA 09:57, 13 March 2009 (EDT)
True enough—I think the best way to deal with that would be to add more links to Arlington from DC and from Virginia and nearby Virginia articles. And as a matter of fact, having multiple articles within Arlington Co. would mean more links pointing to this (very important) travel destination. I've switched back to treating Arlington as a region (as it is a county, even though it is also a city) and treating its sub-cores as small city articles (since from any perspective other than an administrative one, they are small cities). I don't think I'm leaving anything out:
I don't see any good reason to not do this, but there are several reasons pro: 1) each of these areas could support a well-developed Wikitravel article; 2) if you visit, they all seem like separate small cities (despite living in the D.C. area for most of my life, I didn't actually realize there was only one city govt administering these areas); 3) sorting listings is very easy, and would make the task of keeping listings properly trimmed more manageable; 4) information about Pentagon City is not relevant for someone basing himself in Clarendon (which has plenty to keep a visitor busy) while visiting D.C. --Peter Talk 03:58, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
Peter, I'm generally not a fan of sub-dividing city articles (it can be hard to navigate across several pages) however what you are proposing makes sense. I'd suggest we get a good clickable map that to break out the different districts. We should also have a section in the main article that explains who would want to stay in which area (vacationers can stay anywhere near a metro, but military types would want to stay in Crystal City or Pentagon City, State Department types in Ballston or Rosslyn, FDIC in Clarendon, etc.) I can provide that content and some things about each sub article, however I have had all manner of trouble uploading photos recently so someone else would need to do a map. —The preceding comment was added by SONORAMA (talkcontribs) .
Draft Arlington map

Well, I've delved into both the official and unofficial street boundaries that I could find, and I see that they consider these population cores to be much smaller than I had expected. Accordingly, I combined a few:

  1. Rosslyn
  2. Pentagon-Crystal City
  3. Clarendon-Ballston Corridor (includes Courthouse)

I think these agglomerated cities/neighborhoods will better support articles. I don't know what to do with the leftover areas, which are comparatively suburban and uninteresting. Not to say that there isn't a lot of material there that could support an article—there is. So I have two suggestions: 1) create a catch-all article called Suburban Arlington, which would cover everything not listed above, or 2) leave all information outside the three city articles above in this article. I don't like either option very much, but the former is much more in line with general Wikitravel policies. (Btw, the map to the right is only a draft for discussion purposes—I can make that much prettier and more of the Wikitravel-style later.) --Peter Talk 23:07, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

I confess I've rather lost interest in this, and am beginning to see how the guide could work as a single article. A map, I think, would still be useful for navigating the various "neighborhoods." I'm going to try and spruce this article up in the near future. --Peter Talk 15:41, 21 April 2009 (EDT)