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I am planning to upgrade this article to [[Wikitravel:Star articles|Star]], so have added the [[Wikitravel:Dive guide article status criteria|checklist below]] to keep track of what still meeds to be done. [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:05, 11 October 2010 (EDT)
===''Star'' status criteria for dive site===
====Wikitravel criteria:====
*Covers the topic fully.
*Layout and listings either match the manual of style exactly or are the exception that proves the rule.
*Prose is not only near-perfect grammatically but also tight, effective, and enjoyable.
*At least one good-quality photo or illustration accompanies the article. <font color="green">'''Complies.'''</font color>
*If practical it has a map identifying relevant destinations. <font color="green">'''Complies.'''</font color>
====Diver criteria:====
*A diver competent to dive the site but without any local knowledge should be able to plan a safe and enjoyable dive using the information provided (in conjunction with a regional diving guide if applicable.)
*Conditions during the dive should come as no surprise.
*A map showing the position and layout of the site in some detail, preferably to scale. <font color="green">'''Complies.'''</font color><font color="red"><strike> '''Add names of JJM junior and North Photographer's Reef'''</strike> (done)</font color>*Reason/s why one would choose to dive the site. <font color="red"><strike>'''Needs work''' </strike>(done) </font color><font color="green"> '''Complies.'''</font color>
*Description of the layout of the site <font color="green">'''Complies.'''</font color><font color="red"><strike> '''Split description to section subsection for each reef.'''</strike> (done)</font color>*General idea of slope, profile and rugosity <font color="red"><strike>'''Could use a bit more detail.'''</strike> (done)</font color><font color="green"> '''Complies.'''</font color>*Description of major features and landmarks <font color="red"><strike>'''Could use a bit more detail.'''</strike> (done)</font color><font color="green"> '''Complies.'''</font color>
*Condition of wreckage if applicable <font color="green">'''Not applicable.'''</font color>
*Only for rocky reefs <font color="green">'''Complies.'''</font color>
*Type of rock, (geological age, name of formation optional) <font color="green">'''Complies.''' </font color><font color="red"><strike>'''Could use a bit of detail on how it got to be that shape.'''</strike> (done)</font color>
*Strike and dip optional if applicable <font color="green">'''Not applicable.'''</font color>
*Generally only for shore access dives <font color="red"><strike>'''Get information from Windmill and Penguin Point articles. Update as appropriate'''</strike> (done)</font color> <font color="green"> '''Complies.'''</font color>
*Facilities must be in close walking range of parking area or entry points
*Facilities appropriate to divers and accompanying family only.(parking, ablution, fast food, dive services, picnic areas, security, beach, shade, etc)
*any equipment beyond the standard equipment listed for the region in the regional guide, either reqired or recommended for the site for safety of convenience. Reason should be specified if not obvious. <font color="green">'''Complies.'''</font color>
*"No special equipment required/recommended" is null default
===Discussion from [[Wikitravel:Star nominations]] for Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Photographer's Reef===
This dive site article has reached the stage where I think it meets the dive site criteria for Star. [[Talk:Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Photographer's Reef|The article talk page]] contains a checklist for [[Wikitravel:Dive_guide_article_status_criteria#Star_status_criteria_for_dive_site|dive site article star criteria]] as used in the previous two star articles on dive sites. I would greatly appreciate any comments on what can be done to improve it, and any minor copyediting would also be good, as I have probably gone way past the blindness to small mistakes level by now. Cheers, [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 08:02, 11 October 2010 (EDT)
*'''Support''' &mdash; I have gone over it, and added a small section on seacatfish, plus removed what typos and other minor mistakes I found. Just a question: Why Boulders Beach and not Pumphouse Gully? [[User:Seascapeza|Seascapeza]] 06:07, 15 October 2010 (EDT)
::I dont know. Could you be more specific? [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 06:17, 15 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Sure. It's the capitalization which isn't consistent. you say Boulders Beach and Pumhouse gully. [[User:Seascapeza|Seascapeza]] 05:28, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
::::OK, thought it might be that. Sorted. -- [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 11:53, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
* '''Support'''. My only request would be to add a caption to [[:Image:Sea squirt at Photographers Reef DSC05042.JPG]], and to possibly copyedit the text in the "Get in" section a bit. "Get in" currently contains some sentence fragments ("Usually considered a boat dive.") and I had to re-read the second and third paragraphs a few times to understand the flow. Perhaps these two paragraphs would read better if they were combined into a single paragraph with some transitional text "... Either of these shore entry areas can be reached by driving through Simon's town...". Otherwise, this looks like yet another great article, and the maps are excellent. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 16:10, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
::Done. There is now a caption on the image and Get in has been changed as you suggested. Thanks for the comments. [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:19, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
* '''Support'''. This is a relatively small reef, but well covered, and given my experience diving it (from both shore and by boat), there is nothing missing about its description, location, access, marine life, etc. [[User:Gzsilavecz|G Zsilavecz]] 13:44, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Three supports and no dissentions. All minor issues dealt with. Three weeks from last comment will be Monday 8th. If there is no further comment by then I will star it. &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:12, 6 November 2010 (EDT)
::::Monday 8th has come and gone, so will now star it. &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 08:45, 12 November 2010 (EST)
== Star nominations for [[Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Photographer's Reef|Photographer's Reef]] and [[Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay]] ==
These two articles have been nominated for star and await revier and comment at [[Wikitravel:Star nominations#Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Photographer's Reef|Wikitravel:Star nominations]].
Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay is the first Regional Dive Guide to be nominated for star and therefore it would be desirable to get as much community involvement as possible, as this will to some extent provide a standard for future articles of this kind. (if it makes it). -- [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:30, 15 October 2010 (EDT)
:[[Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Photographer's Reef|Photographer's Reef]] has been promoted to star, Thanks to all who commented.
:A large part of the issues brought up regarding [[Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay]] have been addressed, but there is a policy issue outstanding. If anyone has the time to look the discussion over and maybe even check over the article it would be appreciated. I think the process is nearing finalisation, as there is not much more that I can do at this stage based on the current outstanding issues. Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 14:37, 19 November 2010 (EST)
Swept in from Travellers' Pub &bull; &bull; &bull; [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] <small><sup>[[User_Talk:Pbsouthwood|Talk]]</sup></small> 05:11, 17 January 2011 (EST)

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