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The Travellers' pub is where Wikitravellers of all languages get to together to talk about Wikitravel, and where you can ask for help if you're confused, lost, afraid, tired or annoyed by Wikitravel. Please check the FAQ and Help page before asking a question, though, since that may save your time and others'.

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Renaming a file name and caption

I have uploaded a file, and accidentally it had the wrong name and caption (should be Underground, instead of Underwater). I have been going crazing trying to find out how it's possible to rename the name and the caption. I follow help link to help link and so far nothing. After reading the help info, what is was able to find out is that only admin, file movers, and a few other groups can do it. Since I don't have that op right, I wasn't able to find out: who should I contact in order to request that file and caption rename. Does anyone how to help me? And I think it would be helpful if that info is not more clear on help documentation.

Thank you for your post. I am an admin here and I would gladly help you. Please let me know how you would like to name the file and I will do it for you. Is that a file you are referring to [1]? The best way to ask for help on Wikitravel is simply to leave a message on the Travellers' Pub, just as you did. I've been checking Pub regularly and I'm doing my best to solve all the problems. You can also contact me on my User Page. Thanks! IBAlex 12:35, 11 December 2012 (EST)
Yes, it's that image. Thanks, IBAlex.
That image I used in [2], the link must also be updated. I don't known if you can also do that, so the broken link has less lifetime. Since the place where I'm now, there isn't always power nor internet.
I managed to change only the caption from "Underwater" to "Underground" but I'm unable to change the name of the file. What you can do is to upload a new version of the file by clicking here [3].
The link is not broken because the name of the page you uploaded the picture on is Sabang (Palawan) and not just Sabang. I hope this helps. Cheers, IBAlex 17:22, 13 December 2012 (EST)
Finally I arrive into a place where internet is fast enough to upload a new file. I uploaded [4], and updated the link in Sabang (Palawan).
So the [5] file is no longer needed, is there any possibility that you can delete it?
Sure! I just deleted it. Cheers, IBAlex 11:06, 21 December 2012 (EST)

Finnish Wikitravel need some help

Hey, we have a problem in Finnish Wikitravel. We have some IP user ([6] & [7]) making lot of trash by spamming articles from Finnish Wikipedia and Swedish Wikipedia via Google Translate... There are no active admins in Finnish version of Wikitravel. So, could someone come to help us and delete articles from these categories: [8] & [9]. Roquai 12:56, 9 October 2012 (EDT)

Is it all from that same IP?--IBobi talk email 13:25, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
All from IP & IP Same person. Roquai 13:44, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
We will block the IPs and revert the spam pages. Thanks for keeping an eye out! Have you considered being an admin for the Finnish site?--IBobi talk email 13:46, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
I am quite sporadic visitor and contributor in Finnish Wikitravel. So I think it would be not good idea to be admin for the Finnish project. But, thanks for cleaning ”our” project. :) Roquai 14:19, 9 October 2012 (EDT)

We have still almost 300 pages waiting for deletion in Finnish Wikitravel: [10]. Almost all of those are made by the same IP... Roquai 09:13, 13 October 2012 (EDT)

There is the same problem in Spanish, Hungarian & [11], Italian, Polish Wikitravel... Roquai 11:58, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

Finnish and Spanish are done! - IBcash 15:26, 17 October 2012 (EDT)
The same user is also vandalizing the French Wikitravel. Could you also block him there please? sumone10154(talk) 22:39, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
Done. Thank you.--IBobi talk email 14:29, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

Reading the Cope section for Helsinki, I recognised text that had been copied from the Stockholm page, some of it written by me. I have never been to Helsinki. These comments only apply to Stockholm. The revision that copied the Stockholm article was: Revision as of 07:43, 1 January 2013 by I compared that revision with the previous version and attempted to remove the text that was copied from the Stockholm article, but my attempt to remove the copied text was blocked as an "unconstructive edit".

Thank you for letting us know. I have replied to your message on EN Wikitravel and I have also reverted the copied content on Helsinki page. thank you! Your IP doesn't seem to be blocked, was it the user account? Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 16:38, 1 April 2013 (EDT)

Put an image from Wikimedia Commons directly

Hi. Patrolling the ja: edition, I noticed that we can extract the images not from WTS, but from Wikimedia Commons directly (as you can see like this).

I just want to know:

What happened (I think we couldn’t do this before. Is there any technical improvement or policy change(s))?

Do you have (or going to set up) any policy when we want to put the images on the WT pages, not just from WTS but directly from the WMC (Such as delete those pictures from the pages when we find them, since they are not from the WTS)? Well, but it seems we have legally no problem to use those pictures to the WT pages directly, because both WTS and WMC are based on the same license (i.e. cc-by-sa 3.0) right now, and to get some specific image(s) from WMC to WTS is quite common for us)?

Please tell me what should I do when I find those pictures.--Shoestring 05:43, 9 March 2013 (EST)

Hello Shoestring! Nice to hear from you! I hope you are doing fine. Let me comment on the question you asked.
  1. Our policy is that All images used on WT should first be imported to WTS.
  2. Even though WMC does have the same license; we would prefer to not import from WMC as it can negatively affect our search standing (the content is seen as duplicate of WMC content once it's copied here), but it may still happen.
Do you mind making a note on the JA Travellers' Pub clarifying this issue so that the community knows what our policy is? We would appreciate that. Thank you! Warm regards, IBAlex 16:01, 11 March 2013 (EDT)
Hi Alex, thank you for your advice. I put the translation of your comment on the ja: traveler’s pub.
For your information, when I found the beautiful image on en: and tried to import it directly from en: to ja: by put its file name on the article (since it was not up on the shared), the article displayed quite different image on the Commons, since their name was quite the same.--Shoestring 21:24, 16 March 2013 (EDT)
Shoestring, thank you very much for your time to translate the message! It's highly appreciated!
Let me explain it. All the images should be first uploaded on WT Shared. It happened that users were previously uploading picture on EN WT (and not on Shared) even if was explicitly written Please do not upload pictures here, I'm taking about this page [12]. That's why when you take a picture from EN WT to other WT, the picture might display differently. In this situation I suggest re-uploading the picture to WT Shared and taking it from there to JA WT. I hope this helps:) all the best, IBAlex 11:55, 18 March 2013 (EDT)

"Ransom" problem

Been adding to the County Cavan get in - by bus section - just adding ordinary content and place names and the editing system identified my action as ransom?! Content was civil and in order - the only possible action which could be amiss is that I was adding content in raid spurts rather than in one go. Puts me off contributing if my actions are being misunderstood by the system. any help appreciated, thanks in advance 21:33, 12 March 2013 (EDT)Brf1000

Hello! Thank you for your message. I am here to help you and I will explain everything. Wikitravel has several abuse filters that protect the site form potential spammers or vandals who come to the site and make lots of malicious changes. This is happening often as Wikitravel has lots of traffic and the content is user generated. Unfortunately, sometimes filters stop users from making edits that are constructive. Ransom is a filter that prevents new users/IP addresses from making too many changes per hour. I saw you made many changes on County Cavan page and that's the reason you were stopped, sorry for that. I saw your contributions were constructive and valuable to travelers so please feel free to add them, just keep in mind not to save your edits too many times during one hour. Thank you! If you have more questions, just let me know. Thank you for your understanding. Warm regards, IBAlex 13:32, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
In this proximate case the explanatory messages need to explain this filter in more detail so as not to dissuade good contributors like this one. --118dot93dot73dot30 00:06, 17 March 2013 (EDT)

Wikitravel upgrade - site in read-only mode for a few days beginning Tuesday 3/26/2013

Hello all, We're excited to announce that Wikitravel will be upgrading its software next week. In order to migrate Wikitravel's extraordinary database of travel information, we'll be putting the site into read-only mode starting Tuesday, 26 March 2013 PST and running for about three days. No edits will be possible at this time. When we come back, we'll be better than ever. Please let us know if there are any questions or concerns, IBAlex 17:55, 22 March 2013 (EDT)

'Looks like you forget to delete the nitenotice on the Shared. See above.--Shoestring (talk) 07:15, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
Thank you, Shoestring! Everything should be fine now. Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 16:36, 1 April 2013 (EDT)

DE: Wikitravel upgrade - Die Seiten im Nur-Lese-Modus für ein paar Tage ab Dienstag, 26.3.2013

Hallo alle zusammen! Wir freuen uns bekanntzugeben, dass Wikitravel nächste Woche ein Softwareupgrade ausführt. Um die außergewöhnliche Datenbank von Reiseinformationen erfolgreich zu migrieren, werden wir die Seite ab Dienstag den 26. März in den Nur-Lese-Modus setzen. Dieses Upgrade wird etwa drei Tage laufen. Keine Bearbeitungen werden in dieser Zeit möglich sein. Wenn wir zurück kommen, werden wir besser sein als je zuvor. Bitte lasst uns wissen, wenn es irgendwelche Fragen oder Sorgen gibt.

ES: Wikitravel upgrade - sitio en modo de sólo lectura para un par de días a partir 26/03/2013

Hola a todos! Estamos muy contentos de anunciar que Wikitravel va a actualizar su software la próxima semana. Para migrar la extraordinaria base de datos de información sobre viajes de Wikitravel, vamos a poner el sitio en modo de sólo lectura a partir del lunes 3/25/2013 y funcionando durante unos tres días. No será posible editar en este momento. Cuando regresemos, vamos a estar mejor que nunca. Por favor, háganos saber si tiene alguna pregunta o preocupación.

FI: Wikitravel päivitys – sivusto luku-tilassa muutaman päivän alkaen maanantaista

Hei kaikki! Meillä on ilo ilmoittaa, että Wikitravel päivittää ohjelmistonsa ensi viikolla. Siirtääksemme Wikitravelin uniikin sisällön uuteen tietokantaan, asetamme sivun pelkästään luku-tilaan alkaen maanantaina 26/3/2013 noin kolmeksi päiväksi. Yhtään muokkausta ei siis voi lisätä tänä aikana. Kun tulemme takaisin, olemme parempia kuin koskaan! Jos sinulla on kysyttävää tai kommentoitavaa, otahan meihin yhteyttä.

FR: Mise à jour de Wikitravel : Mode lecture-seule pour quelques jours à partir du mardi 26 mars 2013

Bonjour à tous ! Nous avons le plaisir de vous annoncer une mise à jour majeure de Wikitravel au cours de la semaine à venir. Afin de pouvoir faire migrer l’immense base de données de voyage de Wikitravel, nous plaçons le site en mode en mode lecture-seule à partir 26/03/2013 et ce pour une durée de trois jours. Aucune modification ne pourra être apportée au contenu durant ces trois jours. En revanche, le site reviendra plus performant que jamais ! N’hésitez pas à nous faire part de toutes vos questions.

IT: Aggiornamento Wikitravel - in modalita' "sola lettura" per pochi giorni a partire 26 Marzo 2013

Salve a tutti, siamo lieti di annunciare che Wikitravel aggiornera' il proprio software nella prossima settimana. Per trasportare lo straordinario database e le informazioni viaggio di Wikitravel il sito verra' messo in modalita' di "sola lettura" a partire 26/03/2013 e per circa tre giorni. In questo periodo non sara' possibile fare modifiche. Quando torneremo saremo meglio di sempre. Vi chiediamo di contattarci per qualsiasi domanda o problema.

NL: Wikitravel upgrade - Alleen-lezen modus gedurende een paar dagen vanaf 26 Maart 2013

Hallo allemaal, we zijn blij jullie te kunnen mededelen dat Wikitravel volgende week zijn software gaat upgraden. Om de geweldige database vol reisinformatie te kunnen overzetten zullen we de site vanaf 26-03-2013 zo'n 3 dagen op Alleen-lezen zetten. Er kunnen dan geen bewerkingen plaatsvinden. Wanneer we terugkomen zullen we beter zijn dan ooit tevoren. Schroom niet om het ons te laten weten wanneer er vragen of bedenkingen zijn.

PL: Wikitravel Upgrade- Strona w trybie "Tylko do Odczytu" od wtorku 26 marca 2013

Witam wszystkich serdecznie! Cieszymy się ogłosić, że w przyszlym tygodniu Wikitravel będzie aktualizować swoje oprogramowanie! Aby przeprowadzić migrację bazy danych pomyslnie, jestesmy zmuszeni umiescic Wikitravel w trybie tylko do odczytu począwszy od wtorku 26 Marca 2013. Upgrade bedzie przeprowadzany przez około trzy dni i edytowanie strony bedzie niemozliwe w tym czasie. To pozwoli nam byc lepszym niż kiedykolwiek! W przypadku pytan lub wątpliwości prosze dac znac.

PT: Wikitravel upgrade - site em modo de somente leitura por alguns dias começam 2013/03/26

Olá a todos, Estamos entusiasmados em anunciar que Wikitravel será a atualização do seu software na próxima semana. Para migrar de banco de dados extraordinário Wikitravel de informações sobre viagens, nós vamos colocar o site em modo de somente leitura começam segunda-feira e correr para 2013/03/26 Cerca de três dias. Não será possível edições neste momento. Quando voltarmos, vamos estar melhor do que nunca. Por favor, deixe-nos saber se há alguma dúvida ou preocupação.

RU: Обновление Викитрэвел! Сайт в режиме чтения на протяжении трех дней начиная с (26.03.2013)

Рады сообщить вам, что на следующей неделе проект Викитрэвел обновляется. Для того, чтоб перенести всю базу данных сайта, он будет находиться в режиме чтения 26.03.2013 на протяжении трех дней. В это время статьи будут защищены от редактирования. По возвращению сайт будет представлен в своем лучшем виде. Если у вас есть вопросы или предложения, сообщите о них.

SV: Wikitravel uppdatering – webbsidan i skrivskyddad för några dagar

Hej alla, Vi är upphetsad att annonsera att Wikitravel uppdaterar sin software nästa veckan. För att flytta Wikitravels special resa information databas vi ska sätta den här webbsidan till skrivskyddad tillstånd 26.3.2013 för cirka tre dagar. Under tiden kan man inte görä ändringar. När vi återkommer vi ska vara bättre än aldrig tidigare. Om du har någon frågor var vänlig och kontakta oss.

error when adding hostel listing

Hi, I am trying to add my hostel to the Santa Marta Colombia page (http://wikitravel.org/en/Santa_Marta#Sleep) and it keeps coming back with the following error "hError adding 'sleep' listing in Santa_Marta: Invalid tag name"

Hi! Thank you for reporting this problem! On some pages we are experiencing issues with Add listing feature, apologies! We would ask you to write your listing in a wiki markup using this page. Please read the page and let me know if everything is clear. I am here to help! Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 14:31, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

Wrong Information!!

I live on St. Croix, and run a business. This morning a guest came in off of the cruise ship looking for Tommy's Scooter Rentals. THEY DO NOT EXIST!!!!! I have lived here for over 4 years, and they haven't existed since I've been here. Someone needs to seriously update this sight.

Hi! Which page are you talking about? Wikitravel is a crowdsourced travel guide that anybody can edit. Please plunge forward and change the info. Cheers! IBAlex (talk) 14:07, 5 April 2013 (EDT)

I am blocked for wikitravel

I created a username Pbrooks1 and it still blocks me from your site can you please unblock me i use it from time to time pabrooks01@hotmail.com Phil

Hi Phil! Thank you for writing to us. Your account wasn't blocked. We were experiencing a massive vandalism attack, probably from competitor's site, yesterday. Deepest apologies for the inconvenience! Please feel free to edit the site at any time. Thank you! Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 17:48, 8 April 2013 (EDT)

Abuse on Rome page

When I pulled up the Rome [13] page, I saw that it had been redirected to Goatsy.cx, along with its Talk page. All of the history on the page and its talk page was blank. I removed the redirect for both pages, then googled until I was able to find an old version of the page ([14]) and copy/pasted the content.

I hope that an admin can locate the original page, and restore the discussion and history fully.

Thank you for reporting that! We highly appreciate your help! All vandalism has been reverted now and the Rome page is fine. Thanks again! Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 12:37, 8 April 2013 (EDT)

Listing on Cobh page

Hi, In the "Cobh" page someone keeps adding content relating to my business Gills that is damaging. How do I get this removed permanently please? I have tried editing it and it keeps reverting to the old text after a while. 10:57, 14 April 2013 (EDT)

Hello! Thank you for reaching out to us! Your listing [15] was reverted by Wikitravel administrators because you did not follow our policies. The explanation was also left on your Talk Page [16]. Please make sure to read this page [17] before editing your listing again. Thank you for your understanding! Kind regards, IBAlex (talk) 13:47, 15 April 2013 (EDT)

http://www.travelandtoursguide.com/index.php?title=Sagamihara got edited to promote Kratom

The page I used to travel around my wife's birth town and now it is just full of a rant for Kratom use, can you please return the previous page which was full about all the sightseeing spots of sagamihara?



Hello Thor! Thank you for your message! The page you are referring to does not belong to Wikitravel. Our content was redistributed by travelandtoursguide.com. Sagamihara page on Wikitravel looks good and didn't get any bad edits. Please feel free to use Wikitravel for planning your future travels. Thank you! Kind regards, IBAlex (talk) 13:53, 15 April 2013 (EDT)

ja: bug report along with the system maintenance held in the end of this March

Hi IB techs, a bug report from ja:.

(Probably) along with your system maintenance held at the end of this March, we have some malfunctioning on the ja: pages as listed below:

When we edit and browse the ja: pages under the log in status:

  • The page index at the top left of the pages does not display (when we browse the pages under the log out status, that function (i.e. display the index) is totally no problem).
  • The "months" index, usually displays at the bottom of each sub page of 祭やイベント (events and festivals) (by using {{Month}} tug) does not display (ditto).
  • Tugs at the top of the user preferences page are unusable (so far the page is fixed at the "user profile" tug, and we cannot change the pages even if we click the other tugs).
  • For admin users, part of the collective patrol functions seem to be disabled (we can check and patrol some previous edits at one time, but we cannot display each edit one by one, even if we want to).

When we browse the ja: pages regardless of log in or log out status:

  • "Related pages" (the function for displaying the related pages on the sidebar, by using the {{Related}} tug) is malfunctioned.

Also, here is a resubmit request, the bug on ja: Wikitravel Mobile Version once reported by 木更津乃風.

We think some of the vital functions are disabled so far, which cause us very much inconvenience when we want to edit and browse ja: pages.

We are very happy if you could check the system and fix them as soon as possible.--Shoestring (talk) 11:06, 20 April 2013 (EDT)

Shoestring, thanks so much! I reported all the bugs to our IT department. I will keep you posted how things are going. Thank you so much! Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 13:55, 23 April 2013 (EDT)
Dear Shoestring, we are trying now to fix all the bugs you mentioned. Could you please provide some screenshots that could help us with solving the problem. Thank you very much for your cooperation! Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 13:39, 26 April 2013 (EDT)
Hi Alex, thank you very much for your response and sorry for not to give you any reply soon (I had no chance to check the pages for a couple of days).
I checked ja: pages concerning the requests I gave you the other days, and umm...it seems so far that nothing has changed yet.--Shoestring (talk) 10:33, 28 April 2013 (EDT)
Shoestring, thank you for your response. We are still working to fix those bugs and we would appreciate some of your help. Could you please send us screenshots with the issues, with log in status and log out status,together with the page links. We would need screenshots and links for the following issues:
  1. The page index at the top left of the pages;
  2. The "months" index;
  3. Tugs at the top of the user preferences page;
  4. collective patrol functions, admin users;
  5. Related pages on the sidebar;
Looking forward to your answer! Thank you! Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 13:09, 29 April 2013 (EDT)


There is a big mistake about Topic - Respect.

I am a frequent traveller to Kuala Lumpur, and I have a lots of friends being the members of Barisan National. I don't see there is any "danger" to stay along with them. Obviously, the message in "Respect" is composed by the opposition party with disrespect and bias.

In a travel advising website, accusing a political party is completely unrelated to tourist. I urge this website to correct it ASAP and gives the international traveller a true, fair comment about Malaysia's political environment. —The preceding comment was added by (talkcontribs), thank you for this message! Please know that Wikitravel is a guide written by the Travelers for the Travelers. Anybody can edit Wikitravel and add their own information as long as it meets our policies. Feel free to plunge forward and edit Kuala Lumpur page on your own. Here is a Quick Contribution Guide that can help you with that. Happy editing! Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 13:27, 6 May 2013 (EDT)



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