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The '''Travellers' pub''' is where Wikitravellers of all languages get to together to talk about Wikitravel, and where you can ask for help if you're confused, lost, afraid, tired or annoyed by Wikitravel. Please check the [[Wikitravel Shared:FAQ|FAQ]] and [[Wikitravel Shared:Help|Help]] page before asking a question, though, since that may save your time and others'.
 
The '''Travellers' pub''' is where Wikitravellers of all languages get to together to talk about Wikitravel, and where you can ask for help if you're confused, lost, afraid, tired or annoyed by Wikitravel. Please check the [[Wikitravel Shared:FAQ|FAQ]] and [[Wikitravel Shared:Help|Help]] page before asking a question, though, since that may save your time and others'.
  
If you have question '''about travel''', not the website, try the '''[http://extra.wikitravel.org/forum Wikitravel Extra Forum]'''.
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If you have question '''about travel''', not the website, try the Travellers' pubs in your language edition of Wikitravel.
  
 
If you are having a problem that you think has to do with the [http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/ Mediawiki software], please post that on the [[Wikitravel Shared:technical requests|technical requests]] page instead.
 
If you are having a problem that you think has to do with the [http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/ Mediawiki software], please post that on the [[Wikitravel Shared:technical requests|technical requests]] page instead.
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==Renaming a file name and caption==
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== Editing pages nor creating account work from from China because of missing Google Recaptcha ==
I have uploaded a file, and accidentally it had the wrong name and caption (should be Underground, instead of Underwater). I have been going crazing trying to find out how it's possible to rename the name and the caption. I follow help link to help link and so far nothing.
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After reading the help info, what is was able to find out is that only admin, file movers, and a few other groups can do it.
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Since I don't have that op right, I wasn't able to find out: who should I contact in order to request that file and caption rename.
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Does anyone how to help me? And I think it would be helpful if that info is not more clear on help documentation.
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:Thank you for your post. I am an admin here and I would gladly help you. Please let me know how you would like to name the file and I will do it for you. Is that a file you are referring to [http://wikitravel.org/shared/File:Princesa_Underwater_River.jpg]? The best way to ask for help on Wikitravel is simply to leave a message on the Travellers' Pub, just as you did. I've been checking Pub regularly and I'm doing my best to solve all the problems. You can also contact me on my [[Shared: User_talk:IBAlex| User Page]]. Thanks! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 12:35, 11 December 2012 (EST)
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:Yes, it's that image. Thanks, IBAlex.
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:That image I used in [http://wikitravel.org/Sabang|Sabang], the link must also be updated. I don't known if you can also do that, so the broken link has less lifetime. Since the place where I'm now, there isn't always power nor internet.
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::I managed to change only the caption from "Underwater" to "Underground" but I'm unable to change the name of the file. What you can do is to upload a new version of the file by clicking here [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/shared/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Princesa_Underwater_River.jpg&wpForReUpload=1].
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::The link is not broken because the name of the page you uploaded the picture on is [http://wikitravel.org/en/Sabang_%28Palawan%29 Sabang (Palawan)] and not just '''Sabang'''. I hope this helps. Cheers, [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 17:22, 13 December 2012 (EST)
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:::Finally I arrive into a place where internet is fast enough to upload a new file. I uploaded [http://wikitravel.org/shared/File:Princesa_Underground_River.jpg], and updated the link in [http://wikitravel.org/en/Sabang_%28Palawan%29 Sabang (Palawan)].
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:::So the [http://wikitravel.org/shared/File:Princesa_Underwater_River.jpg] file is no longer needed, is there any possibility that you can delete it?
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::::Sure! I just deleted it. Cheers, [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 11:06, 21 December 2012 (EST)
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==Right to vanish policy==
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I feel that we lack a right to vanish policy. The meatball version is to be found [http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/RightToVanish here]. The Wikipedia version is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Courtesy_vanishing here]. Suggestion: import the current Wikipedia version. [[User:Riggwelter|Riggwelter]] 09:46, 12 September 2012 (EDT)
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:I agree.
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:Perhaps you could plunge forward and create one in your own User namespace and then give us the link so we can ratify it (or not) by consensus? --[[User:Alice|Alice]] 21:40, 18 November 2012 (EST)
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==:ja Thumbnail error?==
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It seems that we cannot display the shared image when we want to use them as thumbnail images. See [[:ja:クアラルンプール#列車で]]. I tried several times and it doesn't work, unfortunately. It happens so frequently these days.--[[User:Shoestring|Shoestring]] 17:14, 12 September 2012 (EDT)
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:Thank you -- I have reported this to Tech.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 17:49, 12 September 2012 (EDT)
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::It still doesn't work (it seems that the system or database is very much unstable.). When I try to use the image, it often displays the error messages such as "サムネイルの作成中にエラーが発生しました:convert: unable to open image `/var/www/wikitravel/upload/shared/thumb/e/ec/Gondola_cable,_Langkawi,_Kedah,_Malaysia.JPG/160px-Gondola_cable,_Langkawi,_Kedah,_Malaysia.JPG': Permission denied @ blob.c/OpenBlob/2480.", instead ('''see also [[:ja:ランカウイ島#遊ぶ|here]]'''). 'Seems not always happens, but happens so frequently.
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::Anyway, I am very much in trouble for about a week and I think this is an urgent matter.--[[User:Shoestring|Shoestring]] 12:55, 15 September 2012 (EDT)
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:::Edit: Of the two reports, the latter has fixed automatically and the display is now back to its normal. --[[User:Shoestring|Shoestring]] 09:10, 16 September 2012 (EDT)
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== Finnish Wikitravel need some help ==
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Hey, we have a problem in Finnish Wikitravel. We have some IP user ([http://wikitravel.org/fi/Toiminnot:Muokkaukset/217.209.82.165] & [http://wikitravel.org/fi/Toiminnot:Muokkaukset/213.67.141.73]) making lot of trash by spamming articles from Finnish Wikipedia and Swedish Wikipedia via Google Translate... There are no active admins in Finnish version of Wikitravel. So, could someone come to help us and delete articles from these categories: [http://wikitravel.org/fi/Luokka:Roskaa] & [http://wikitravel.org/fi/Luokka:Poistettavat_artikkelit]. [[User:Roquai|Roquai]] 12:56, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
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:Is it all from that same IP?--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 13:25, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
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::All from [http://wikitravel.org/fi/Toiminnot:Muokkaukset/217.209.82.165 IP 217.209.82.165] & [http://wikitravel.org/fi/Toiminnot:Muokkaukset/213.67.141.73 IP 213.67.141.73]. Same person. [[User:Roquai|Roquai]] 13:44, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
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:::We will block the IPs and revert the spam pages. Thanks for keeping an eye out! Have you considered being an admin for the Finnish site?--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 13:46, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
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::::I am quite sporadic visitor and contributor in Finnish Wikitravel. So I think it would be not good idea to be admin for the Finnish project. But, thanks for cleaning ”our” project. :) [[User:Roquai|Roquai]] 14:19, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
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We have still almost 300 pages waiting for deletion in Finnish Wikitravel: [http://wikitravel.org/fi/Luokka:Poistettavat_artikkelit]. Almost all of those are made by the same IP... [[User:Roquai|Roquai]] 09:13, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
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There is the same problem in [http://wikitravel.org/es/Especial:Contribuciones/217.209.82.165 Spanish], [http://wikitravel.org/hu/Speci%C3%A1lis:Szerkeszt%C5%91_k%C3%B6zrem%C5%B1k%C3%B6d%C3%A9sei/213.67.141.73 Hungarian] & [http://wikitravel.org/hu/Speci%C3%A1lis:Szerkeszt%C5%91_k%C3%B6zrem%C5%B1k%C3%B6d%C3%A9sei/217.209.82.165], [http://wikitravel.org/it/Speciale:Contributi/217.209.82.165 Italian], [http://wikitravel.org/pl/Specjalna:Wk%C5%82ad/217.209.82.165 Polish Wikitravel]... [[User:Roquai|Roquai]] 11:58, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
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: Finnish and Spanish are done! - [[User:IBcash|IBcash]] 15:26, 17 October 2012 (EDT)
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::The same user is also vandalizing the [http://wikitravel.org/fr/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/213.67.141.73 French Wikitravel]. Could you also block him there please? <font color="#339989">–[[User:Sumone10154|'''<font color="#339989">sumone10154</font>''']]<sup>([[User talk:Sumone10154|<font color="#339989">talk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:39, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
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:::Done. Thank you.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 14:29, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
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==no noticeboard for admins/sysops?==
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As there seems to be no noticeboard for admins or sysops on WT/S, I will use this one.
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The following pages should be deleted as they are used for spam. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] 11:18, 12 October 2012 (EDT)
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*[[How to get a six pack]]
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*[[User talk:Misterlin]]
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*[[User:Polosxuuzo]]
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*[[User:Poloxxcavy]]
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: Done! Thank you :) -- [[User:IBcash|IBcash]] 13:40, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
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== Travel news ==
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Hello! I would like to call to action all the administrators and contributors on WT.
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For a long time '''Wikitravel Travel news'''[http://wikitravel.org/en/Travel_news] have been outdated. It is time to change it and keep the Travel Alerts and Current and upcoming events up-to-date. To achieve that, '''I need your help'''. Who is willing to offer his/her help? Thank you! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 16:47, 29 October 2012 (EDT)
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== Can't find the link after signing in ==
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I searched for Surat (a city in Gujarat, India), and did some corrections on it without logging in - which means the page exists.
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Then when I created a login ID and searched for Surat page, it is nowhere to be found. Why is that so? I know the page exists!
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:Hello! Is that the page you are referring to? [http://wikitravel.org/shared/Category:Surat]. We have also the whole article on Wikitravel about Surat in case you would like to make some changes there. Please have look [http://wikitravel.org/en/Surat]. Let me know if it answers your questions. thank you! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 14:08, 12 November 2012 (EST)
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== SCAM!! ==
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We hired small motorbike in Vang Vieng, Laos from MR TEEP, for 40,000 Kip for the day. We rode to Kaeng Nyui waterfalls, which were 6 Km from town down a bumpy dirt road. We parked the bike next to the ticket kiosk, and when we returned about 30 minutes later, the woman in the kiosk pointed out that our front tyre was flat. She did not speak English, but by gestures offered to phone Mr Teep, which we were grateful for, as our mobiles did not work in Laos. Having spoken to MR TEEP she passed her phone to me, and he explained that he would contact the repair man, who would bring a replacement innertube out and that I would have to pay 50,000 Kip for it. I told him that I had examined the tyre and could see nothing wrong with it and it hopefully only needed pumping up. To which he said that if that was the case, then I would have to pay 2000 or 3000 Kip.
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The repair man arrived a few minutes later with a sack with a pump and two different size inner tubes and a few tyre levers. He went to speak to the kiosk woman and so I undid his sack and took out the pump. He came across and protested and showed me the new inner tube. I asked how much, and he wrote 50,000 on his hand. I said "No" and attached the pump and pumped up the tyre. I disconnected the pump and listened for air coming out. It seemed OK. So I decided to ride back to the town and check the tyre again then, knowing that I would probably be able to get it pumped up there. I offered the repairman 3000, but he wanted 5000, which I paid him.
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When we got back to town the tyre was OK, and we realised that the woman at the kiosk must have let the tyre down, so that the repairman could swap a perfectly OK tube for an extortionate charge!!! We used the bike for rest of the day, with no problems.
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Being in the middle of nowhere without a pump and not speaking the language, most people may well have paid up and been non-the-wiser.
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I also feel sure that MR TEEP must have been in on it! Otherwise he would have been  suspicious of the number of flat tyres being reported to him by the kiosk woman!!
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Don't hire from MR TEEP and more importantly do not park your bike near the ticket kiosk. Other people had taken their motorbikes nearer to the falls, where there is more parking.
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: I'm moving this information to [[:en:Vang Vieng]] discussion page because it will benefit the traveler better over there. Cheers! [[User:IBAlex|IBAlex]] 17:52, 7 January 2013 (EST)
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== Edit did not save ==
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I recently added a location to Galveston's Do section but when I reloaded the page it was gone.
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:If you are talking about the http://wikitravel.org/en/Galveston page on Wikitravel English, it seems that the edit you did with the Plesure Pier etc. is there, and seems fine to me? --[[User:OVK|OVK]] 08:48, 27 December 2012 (EST)
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Lucy is not from the northern section of Ethiopia. Please check this fact.
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Thank you.
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== Screwed up Ko Lanta ==
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I mistakenly deleted a large portion of Ko Lanta (everything after "Diving") and now I am having difficulty figuring out how to fix the problem. Can someone help me put the page back as it was on 2012-12-26? --[[Special:Contributions/110.171.36.212|110.171.36.212]] 21:21, 28 December 2012 (EST)
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:Looks like you figured it out? Let me know if not!--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 15:43, 3 January 2013 (EST)
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== Armenia has introduced visa waiver for EU & EEA countries.  ==
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Armenia has introduced visa waiver for EU & EEA countries, please update the visa section of this article http://wikitravel.org/en/Armenia .
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Since end of May 2014 are Google services blocked in China, editing page or creating account on Wikitravel.org requires entering code from Google Recaptcha, so all users from Chinese IP address which would like to correct data or sign up for account can't finish the process because Google Recaptcha won't appear to them on page. I had to use VPN on my mobile to create account to be able to notify you about this, but not all users have VPN to spoof their IP address.
Full list of countries whose citizens do not need to obtain entry visas for Armenia are available on Wikipedia here
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Armenia
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[[User:Markoff|Markoff]] ([[User talk:Markoff|talk]]) 22:10, 23 July 2014 (EDT)Markoff
  
Thank you!
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:Thank you for your comments. Our admin in China has contacted our main office about this, so they are aware. Hopefully you are able to add some nice content on Wikitravel now you do have an account. Any questions, please let us know. Kind regards, [[User:Adzas|Adzas]] ([[User talk:Adzas|talk]]) 05:37, 25 July 2014 (EDT)
  
== Please fix typo on the main page ==
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== Problems creating article. ==
  
The heading "Antartica" should be "Antarctica".  I would fix it but apparently don't have permission to edit.  [[User:Markoboston|Markoboston]] 19:05, 1 January 2013 (EST)
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Hi, I am trying to create an article for Old Barag (Inner Mongolia) but I keep getting an error when I submit it
  
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Warning: This action has been identified as harmful. Unconstructive edits will be quickly reverted and egregious or repeated unconstructive editing will result in your account and/or IP address being blocked.
  
:Bothered me too -- I just saw your note here but fixed it independently. I won a 5th grade spelling bee getting that extra C in there ;)
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I am not sure what I am doing wrong, I am a newbie, thanks! <small>—The [[Project:Using_talk_pages#Talk_page_formatting|preceding]] comment was added by [[User: Varofaro|Varofaro]] ([[User_talk: Varofaro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Varofaro|contribs]]) </small>
:As to editing privileges, yes, we do protect the main page due to the potentially huge exposure to vandalism. Hope you understand, and thank you much for letting us know about the error! --[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 15:32, 3 January 2013 (EST)
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:Hi, I just sent you a message on your [[User_talk: Varofaro|talk]] page. Any questions, please let us know. [[User:Adzas|Adzas]] ([[User talk:Adzas|talk]]) 07:30, 6 August 2014 (EDT)
  
== problem with print version of Hanoi, Vietnam page ==
 
  
The Hanoi information does not print properlyPlaese fix. 
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Hi, i double checked my article, there are no links. I am writing from China, I read that some people are having troubles posting from China, maybe that has something to do. Now I get a different error:
Thanks.
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:What problem are you having? I just printed it and it came out fine...--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 15:37, 3 January 2013 (EST)
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"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Air America"
  
== Safety for first year students at UCT any problems as we are in jhb and our son is going to attend cut and we have no immediate family in cape town ==
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I do not understand.
  
We are concerned for our first year going to university of cape town and his physical safety
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Sorry if I am missing something obvious. <small>The [[Project:Using_talk_pages#Talk_page_formatting|preceding]] comment was added by [[User:Varofaro|Varofaro]] ([[User_talk:Varofaro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Varofaro|contribs]]) </small>
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: Hello, have you tried editing again? Anyway, I suggest you to use our main Wikitravel's Pub and articles' talkpages, this is Wikitravel Shared. [[User:GiulioC|GiulioC]] ([[User talk:GiulioC|talk]]) 08:58, 9 August 2014 (EDT)
  
:This is not really a message board type of website; I would suggest perhaps posting your concern on the [http://wikitravel.org/en/Talk:Cape_Town Discussion page of the Cape Town article] and see if anyone responds; alternately, you can view the [http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Cape_Town&action=history history of revisions] and see if there are any regular local contributors who you could leave a message for on their Talk Pages.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 14:37, 7 January 2013 (EST)
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::Hi, I noticed you managed to create the article on August 7 on our main Wikitravel site, so I am assuming all is ok now. [[User:Adzas|Adzas]] ([[User talk:Adzas|talk]]) 13:39, 9 August 2014 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 05:43, 15 August 2014

The Travellers' pub—your watering hole on Wikitravel

The Travellers' pub is where Wikitravellers of all languages get to together to talk about Wikitravel, and where you can ask for help if you're confused, lost, afraid, tired or annoyed by Wikitravel. Please check the FAQ and Help page before asking a question, though, since that may save your time and others'.

If you have question about travel, not the website, try the Travellers' pubs in your language edition of Wikitravel.

If you are having a problem that you think has to do with the Mediawiki software, please post that on the technical requests page instead.

Please add new questions at the bottom of the page and sign your post by appending four tildes (~~~~) to it, but otherwise plunge forward!

Archives[edit]

There are archives available for this page. Please do not edit the archives - instead, start a new thread.

Editing pages nor creating account work from from China because of missing Google Recaptcha[edit]

Since end of May 2014 are Google services blocked in China, editing page or creating account on Wikitravel.org requires entering code from Google Recaptcha, so all users from Chinese IP address which would like to correct data or sign up for account can't finish the process because Google Recaptcha won't appear to them on page. I had to use VPN on my mobile to create account to be able to notify you about this, but not all users have VPN to spoof their IP address.

Markoff (talk) 22:10, 23 July 2014 (EDT)Markoff

Thank you for your comments. Our admin in China has contacted our main office about this, so they are aware. Hopefully you are able to add some nice content on Wikitravel now you do have an account. Any questions, please let us know. Kind regards, Adzas (talk) 05:37, 25 July 2014 (EDT)

Problems creating article.[edit]

Hi, I am trying to create an article for Old Barag (Inner Mongolia) but I keep getting an error when I submit it

Warning: This action has been identified as harmful. Unconstructive edits will be quickly reverted and egregious or repeated unconstructive editing will result in your account and/or IP address being blocked.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong, I am a newbie, thanks! —The preceding comment was added by Varofaro (talkcontribs)

Hi, I just sent you a message on your talk page. Any questions, please let us know. Adzas (talk) 07:30, 6 August 2014 (EDT)


Hi, i double checked my article, there are no links. I am writing from China, I read that some people are having troubles posting from China, maybe that has something to do. Now I get a different error:

"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Air America"

I do not understand.

Sorry if I am missing something obvious. The preceding comment was added by Varofaro (talkcontribs)

Hello, have you tried editing again? Anyway, I suggest you to use our main Wikitravel's Pub and articles' talkpages, this is Wikitravel Shared. GiulioC (talk) 08:58, 9 August 2014 (EDT)
Hi, I noticed you managed to create the article on August 7 on our main Wikitravel site, so I am assuming all is ok now. Adzas (talk) 13:39, 9 August 2014 (EDT)

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