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:::I'm not sure if it's possible to restore that/change the default setting to allow everything but emails from other users to be included in the verification process. Might be a MW limitation, all or nothing.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 17:45, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
 
:::I'm not sure if it's possible to restore that/change the default setting to allow everything but emails from other users to be included in the verification process. Might be a MW limitation, all or nothing.--[[User:IBobi|IBobi]] [[User talk:IBobi|talk]] [[Special:EmailUser/IBobi|email]] 17:45, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
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::::If that's the case, I would recommend rolling back this change. While getting user talk page notifications would be nice (watchlist edits would be overkill for just about anyone, I think), the fact that email has basically been turned off for all past users of Wikitravel is a big problem, for the reasons I list above, and another hundred others that I'm not thinking of.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:50, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
  
 
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I'd like WTers to be able to get email notifications when a page on their watchlist is updated. This functionality exists in MW 1.17. It also requires that we enable email verification, which sends an email to the address of a new user when they register an account (and only if they choose to register -- this does not affect anyone's ability to edit anonymously), with a standard verification linkback.

Does it mean I could set it to email me when one specific page on my watchlist is changed? Or anytime anything on my watchlist is changed? It might be useful if it is the former, but if it's the latter, I would get an avalanche of emails everyday because there are so many articles on my watchlist.texugo 10:57, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
It would work exactly as it does on Wikipedia. If you found the emails to be too cumbersome, you could turn it back off. But the option would be there.--IBobi talk email 14:30, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
Sorry, not all of us are active Wikipedia users. I don't know how it works there-- can't you explain briefly? texugo 09:21, 15 July 2012 (EDT)
Yes -- there's a setting in your Preferences to enable email alerts. When that is set to yes, it sends you an email to your registered address whenever a change is made to a page in your watchlist.--IBobi talk email 13:17, 16 July 2012 (EDT)
In that case, I don't care if you make it possible to enable it, as long the default is to have it turned off. If turned that on, I'd probably get 50-60 emails a day... texugo 14:48, 16 July 2012 (EDT)
Yes -- we'll definitely default it to off, for that exact reason. Thanks,--IBobi talk email 15:23, 16 July 2012 (EDT)
Email not confirmed, all options grayed out, requiring users to find this option in their preferences and to request a confirmation email
What it should look like: no email confirmation needed, but new email notification options left blank by default

New email features should be defaulted to off (E-mail me when a page on my watchlist is changed, E-mail me when my user talk page is changed, and E-mail me also for minor edits of pages), but right now every email feature is disabled until a user goes into their preferences to click the Special:ConfirmEmail link. This means that there is no way to contact inactive users who had enabled email from other Wikitravellers. That means we can't contact inactive users re: licensing questions, re: why they left, re: finding the source SVG for a map they made, or for that matter to contact current users who have made an embarrassing mistake that we'd like to give them the opportunity to quietly fix. Moreover, had I not noticed this (and there was no notification), someone who I blocked could not email me to make a case for unblocking, someone from a language version that I'm not watching closely cannot reach me, confused re-users of WT content cannot contact me re: licensing information of my maps, etc.

Special:ConfirmEmail should not be necessary to prevent unsolicited email notifications. All that would need be done is to leave the checkboxes unticked by default, aside from the one that everyone who entered their email signed up for: non-automated emails from other Wikitravellers. --Peter Talk 15:11, 3 August 2012 (EDT)

The fact that the check box is still checked (though grayed out) indicates to me that if you'd previously indicated that you wanted member emails, you'll still get them; I'll check this functionality with tech. If you can verify manually somehow, please do. Thanks Peter.--IBobi talk email 15:25, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
I can verify that it does not work. Go to Ryan's userpage, for example, and you will see that the "email this user" link is missing from the leftbar's toolbox. Using the emailuser function claims that he has not provided an email, but that clearly was not the case prior to this change. --Peter Talk 15:42, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
I'm not sure if it's possible to restore that/change the default setting to allow everything but emails from other users to be included in the verification process. Might be a MW limitation, all or nothing.--IBobi talk email 17:45, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
If that's the case, I would recommend rolling back this change. While getting user talk page notifications would be nice (watchlist edits would be overkill for just about anyone, I think), the fact that email has basically been turned off for all past users of Wikitravel is a big problem, for the reasons I list above, and another hundred others that I'm not thinking of. --Peter Talk 18:50, 3 August 2012 (EDT)

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